Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[glimmerofhope]

I am on CD10. Started soy CD5-9. I did took 80 mg first night. next 3 nights took 120 and last night I took 160.

Side effects were a dull headache every day.
Today I felt really jello-ish and felt light headed.

 

[hugs3409]

a couple of questions for you lovely ladies......

how do you decide when in your cycle to take Soy?

does it have any side affects?

how is it different to agnus castus.

sorry for the questions, but any advice would be great

thanks


Dawn

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured a lot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

I would suggest to take at least 80mg bc soy is half the strength of clomid. Soy can be taken anytime, but if taken at night, you can possibly avoid side effects and make sure to take them at the same time each day. As for opk, its suggested to start after period ends if cycle is < 35 days, or to start 3 days after period ends if cycle is > 35.

 

[Betheney]

Im still stalking ladies on my soy free cycle. my temps are so erratic without soy.

tallmom yeah for ovulation.

Betheney the advice is. inly to use soy for two cycles as it can have a cumulative effect and the increased eostrogen levels can cause cysts to form. that's why i am having a break.


nice to see some new faces welcome.

I know but It's a risk i'm willing to take. Going off the soy could result in another 2-3 month long cycle. Yuuuuuuck!! But my soy gives me 3 cycles worth so I may reconsider after this cycle.

Betheny, this may seem like two really silly questions but do you think the reason why is because you maybe breastfeeding? I know that when I was breastfeeding my period did come for 20 months and when I stopped it took 7 weeks for it to arrive.

Just for my knowledge since you are using soy and breastfeeding, does the soy go through into the milk?

Oh I know its because of the breastfeeding that my cycles are so long and irregular. But my only alternative is to stop breastfeeding something which i'm not prepared to do that wouldn't be fair on my daughter.

Soy does go through the milk but I can't find much information I can find that if I took excessive amounts over long periodsof time it's not good. But as far as I can find 5 days worth isnt really much to worry about.

But like I said the alternative is to stop breastfeeding. I would prefer Eva have a bit of extra soy for 5 days then never breastfeed again. I feel that would be worse for her.

Love

 

[Tella]

Morning girls, i just wanna find out what are your views on green tea? i have read so many conflicting stories now that in to scared to drink it.

 

[Betheney]

Morning girls, i just wanna find out what are your views on green tea? i have read so many conflicting stories now that in to scared to drink it.

I was unaware there was anything but positive information on green tea... Why is it bad?

 

[Tella]

It has an effect on the body's ability to absorb folic acid. Some people have said just to drink it at seperate times of day but im not gonna chance it.

https://www.nowpublic.com/when-not-drink-green-tea
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18551467https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18551467

 

[Twinkle_star]

Im still stalking ladies on my soy free cycle. my temps are so erratic without soy.

tallmom yeah for ovulation.

Betheney the advice is. inly to use soy for two cycles as it can have a cumulative effect and the increased eostrogen levels can cause cysts to form. that's why i am having a break.


nice to see some new faces welcome.

I know but It's a risk i'm willing to take. Going off the soy could result in another 2-3 month long cycle. Yuuuuuuck!! But my soy gives me 3 cycles worth so I may reconsider after this cycle.

Betheny, this may seem like two really silly questions but do you think the reason why is because you maybe breastfeeding? I know that when I was breastfeeding my period did come for 20 months and when I stopped it took 7 weeks for it to arrive.

Just for my knowledge since you are using soy and breastfeeding, does the soy go through into the milk?

Oh I know its because of the breastfeeding that my cycles are so long and irregular. But my only alternative is to stop breastfeeding something which i'm not prepared to do that wouldn't be fair on my daughter.

Soy does go through the milk but I can't find much information I can find that if I took excessive amounts over long periodsof time it's not good. But as far as I can find 5 days worth isnt really much to worry about.

But like I said the alternative is to stop breastfeeding. I would prefer Eva have a bit of extra soy for 5 days then never breastfeed again. I feel that would be worse for her.

Love

lol... Completely understand, I was the same with my kids, i breastfeed them until they were not interested.

BTW, good on you for persuing it as most that I know gave up once they wanted another child or when back to work.

x

 

[Twinkle_star]

It has an effect on the body's ability to absorb folic acid. Some people have said just to drink it at seperate times of day but im not gonna chance it.

https://www.nowpublic.com/when-not-drink-green-tea
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18551467https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18551467

From what my asians friends say it is the same as cafeine.. should avoid it if possible if you are pregnant. Not sure about when you are TTC

 

[Vici]

Morning girls, AF showed up this morning meaning a 39 day cycle! That may not mean much to you but after cycles of 170 odd days for me its a miracle! Don't know if i ovulated as my daughter stole my thermometer right during the the i may have!

Anyone know why the limit is 200mg? I needed 150mg of clomid to fall with Imogen and as soy is half strength I only actually took equivalent to 100mg of soy! Xxx

 

[MaisyMay]

Hi everyone, I have a question and a worry about soy and a lovely lady suggested that I post my question in here. I'm on CD 14 and I took soy iso cds 2 - 6. I took 120mg, 160mg, 160mg 200mg and 240mg. My opks started off barely visible when I began testing on cd 7. There are now lines but they're very light. I've had quite a bit of ewcm, but no ovulation yet. I'm getting quite worried. I took soy to bring my o forward. I ovulated really late last month....cd38, thats the latest i ever have. I'm getting really worried as I've been reading that you shouldn't take more than 200mg and as I said, I took 240mg on the last day. Does that mean that I won't ovulate now? Any of you ladies had this experience? Thankyou.

 

[BeautifulD]

I wouldn't worry too much hun, seeing as you ovulated at CD38 last time I was like you and I ovulated with soy at CD16 and now that you are getting lines is a good sign, you can get a surge really quickly

 

[SockriTease]

Just stopping in to check on all of you ladies. I hope all is well. I'm 6dpo and waiting to see if soy got me a bfp this cycle. FXed. to all of you.

 

[MaisyMay]

Thankyou beautifulD. I've got to admit I'm a bit of a worrier and this whole ttc thing is sending me mental My last long cycle didn't help matters. Can I ask how much you were taking when you ovulated on cd16?

 

[BeautifulD]

I took 150 150 150 200 200 CD 3 - 7 hun, the cycle before, when it didn't work I took 100mg 3-7 I hope this helps

 

[MaisyMay]

thankyou guess i'll just have to wait and see now. Just hope the 240mg on that last day wasn't too much. Good luck with testing

 

[BeautifulD]

Thanks hun... I'm trying to resist the temptation at the moment LOL xx

 

[Casperess]

Hi girls,

Could i ask for some advice please?

I'm in a bit of a pickle!

I have a 28 day cycle. I normally spot from 10 dpo for three days and then have three days of heavy flow.

I took soy this cycle, cd 3-7 120mg for three days, 160 for two days.

I've had no spotting, great! But no real period either?

I started having some small, brown spotting on Saturday (a week late) but it hasn't turned to anything, it's beginning to go.

Do you all have a normal period?

Also, if i just have spotting how do i determine when to start taking soy for the next cycle? Or just not do it...

Thank you xxx

 

[Tella]

Hi casperess, do you chart? Just want to figure out if you have definitely confirmed O and that you are past your normal LP. Otherwise have you done a HPT yet?

I think the first thing is to make 100% sure you are not preg before considering Soy again. The spotting can very well be implantation bleeding if you maybe O later than normal.

 

[BeautifulD]

Yeah I agree with Tella, good luck hun

 

[MaisyMay]

Hi girls, popping in again Cd 15 today and still quite a bit of ewcm, but no ovulation. Opks about the same, maybe a little darker.......when will I ovulate??