Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[MyMiniMonk]

I haven't been here in about a month, so I thought I would give an update. My last cycle was 48 days I had symptoms, but they were gone within 2 weeks. I had what was possibly IB, and I was too nervous to test because after all these years, another negative would have been too much for me.
I took soy again this month, but my AF was so crazy that I wasn't even sure what day it started. I had very light, barely there bleeding for 3 days, then 1 day of light bleeding and it was gone. I didn't have any PMS symptoms at all, not even the slightest cramp. I took an FRER with FMU just to be sure it was negative. This time I took 200mg for all 5 days. That was about 2 weeks ago. So far, nothing. I don't feel anything like I did last time.
One very odd thing has happened since starting soy. I suddenly have fast-growing facial hair on my chin. I've always had a few of them due to PCOS, but now I have 2 large patches and I have to pluck the hair daily. I don't know what the heck is going on and it's freaking me out!
I read somewhere about an excess of testosterone with PCOS, but I can't find any way to lower it. Is there a way to lower testosterone levels?
After this cycle, I am officially giving up if nothing happens. It's been over 8 and a 1/2 years that we've been trying, and I'm only 31. I guess it's just never going to happen. My husband doesn't want to pay a ton of money for fertility treatments when it's something that should "just happen".
I'm so confused and angry right now. I just want to scream as loud as I can about how it's just not fair!! Best wishes to all of you. I hope you get your BFPs. As for me, I'll be back if I do get my BFP, although I'm certain it's never going to happen for me again.

 

[hopefulmom2]

MyMiniMonk, you and my lil sis should join together, her and her husband have been trying for the last 6 years and she also has PCOS. She is not wanting to give up so easily she said she would rather Die then give up trying. She also knows its Gods plan and she thinks its unfair that other woman young girls can get pregnant but her. There are babies out there that deserve loving homes and she does not understand Why they get all the luck and she doesnt get a chance. She loves her nieces dearly and shes a big part of their lives, but she wants a child of her own.
She thinks one of her sisters should be pregnanted by her husband and for us to just hand over the baby to them, ITs not that easy and I told her that. It does cost alot of money and time for fertility treatments, She has been wanting to do a fertility treatment study for a while, its no cost to her because its a study it could happen then it couldnt happen its a chance you take.

I wish you the best of luck hun and dont give up without a strong fight. I hate the saying its Gods will if you have a child or not, I know all children are a blessing but why do some people only have to try one time and bam they are knocked up while as woman been trying years to have a child of their own and cant succeed? Guess that is a question no one can really answer.

 

[RAFCHICK541]

Well the soy did the trick - 3rd cycle using it and BFP I am still in shock!! Been ttc since December.

Hospital have put me on progesterone pessaries and a whole heap of other meds but Soy def did the trick for me

YAY Congrats!! I haven't been on the Soy thread in a while but I'm gald I stopped by today to see you got a BFP

 

[MyMiniMonk]

I had considered the same thing, using a surrogate. But it does cost a lot of money, and I don't have any sisters and my female cousins are all very young (the oldest is 14). I'm trying not to give up, but next week it will be 10 years since I found out I was pregnant with my son. We've been trying for so long, and I just can't take the BFNs anymore
Soy was kind of my only hope.
I guess I'll try soy for a few more cycles, but I refuse to get my hopes up. We own our home free and clear of any mortgages, so maybe my husband will consider a home equity loan for fertility, but I doubt he will.
One of his sisters is pregnant and just announced it about a month ago. It just kills me since she's single and the guy ran off, and she's a "party girl" who never wanted children. It's like a very cruel joke.
Anyway, I'm having weird pregnancy like symptoms like I did last cycle, only stronger. No amount of caffeine can keep me awake, and I've been sick to my stomach the past few days. Still, I don't want to get excited about it. I'm afraid of that BFN, and I'm certain that's what I'll get if I test. But then again, I didn't find out I was pregnant with my son until I was 5 months along because I was certain I wasn't pregnant...
Oh well, only time will tell.

 

[hopefulmom2]

Good luck myminimonk, Really hope you get a BFP soon, I can understand your pain, I mean I wasnt all that trying while trying for the first one, we just said if it happens it happens, When it didnt happen after a year we went to a doctor, they did blood work exams and the whole nine yards, all clear and nothing, they wanted me to then do this test where its like an xray with dye inside to see if my tubes were blocked, but had to wait so long to do the test after my period. Went in May 2005 and they said call us next month as soon as you start your period, ok will do. I had waited all June and choked it up to Stress as my Grandma was on her deathbed and could of went any day. July came and almost went and nothing, by then I was sleeping at work on my breaks and going to the bathroom every 10 minutes, explained symptoms to a friend of mine at work and she was like take a test...Had an expired one at home and it was Positive, Didnt believe it after all was expired...so the next day went to this pregnancy center that was near my house and they did a test and it came up positive. I was like 12 weeks along when got into see a Dr, and they did a sono and said I was 13 weeks. I was over the moon excited, but the father was doing 59 days in Jail at the time and I just took the test a few days after he went in.

that little one is 6 and half years old today, in the 1st grade and so smart and bright girl. the pregnancy was a rough one, but she was worth it all. I look at all the young girls here that are just popping up pregnant and say thats not fair, people that so deserve to be parents may not get a chance to, but these young moms turn into single parents, drop out of high school end up getting dead end jobs and people would love to have a child that can support them. Guess its the way it is though...

dont give up hope its not over yet, Really hope you get your bfp and It took me 15 months and finally we just gave up trying at the end and it happened. Even though it was between court dates and in and out of Jail and visits to the jail every weekend and letters, phone calls, It was alot on me having to work a job to pay the bills and rent.

 

[nikkihttc]

I have read this entire thread and my heart goes out to all the losses and a big huge smile to all the BFP and babies born. Poppy your lo is adorable!!
I took soy cd 1-5 160 1-3 and 200 4&5. This is my first time using soy and my 6th cycle ttc! Thanks for this interesting read it is an inspiration!

 

[hopefulmom2]

Welcome nikki, hope your BFP is right around the corner!!!

As soon as I start ttc again I will resume taking Soy as it did change my cycle and give me short Luteal phase this past cycle was 16 days after O and I got concerned, and not a stable partner at the moment, will have to be alot more careful. But am not TTC at the moment. I have a 6 year old daughter and was married at the time she was conceived and born, It took us 15 months ttc with her, happened at the end when we give up almost totally.

Good luck and soy did help Me but didnt end in a BFP as only took it 2 cycles!!

 

[poppy666]

I have read this entire thread and my heart goes out to all the losses and a big huge smile to all the BFP and babies born. Poppy your lo is adorable!!
I took soy cd 1-5 160 1-3 and 200 4&5. This is my first time using soy and my 6th cycle ttc! Thanks for this interesting read it is an inspiration!

You brave lady reading all the thread yes Serenity my little Soy miracle good luck sweetie hope it works for you

 

[JLForever1204]

For any of you ladies who had an early miscarriage and passed it all naturally, how long did it take for your cycle to return?

I had normal 28-30 days before my miscarriage on August 16th. I still haven't had a cycle. I know it can take awhile, but I was just curious as to when it happened for others.

 

[poppy666]

I had a misscarriage on 23rd December and got my BFP on my first AF after bleeding & spotting for 7 weeks. Got my BFP on 4th March. x

 

[krissie328]

Hi guys- I took Soy Aug. 30- Sept. 3. I have not O'd and have had terrible pains in my ovaries. So I am feeling quite frustrated. This was my second cycle on soy, the first one I never O'd either, but I started soy midcycle since I was going on nearly 100 days.

Anyways, not sure where I will head after this but I wanted to give everyone an update since I haven't been around for awhile.

 

[Mum2many]

Hi everyone, im new here and thought i wuld join..ive taken soy for two cycles, the first tym i had a chemical and i think im havn same thing again , ive had 8 preg test show a second line , at first i thought the tests were faulty but i tested with water lol and it was negative so i dunnnoo..af is due in 2 days..has anyone used blackmores phytolife ans got successful with it

 

[brielle_best]

How many mg are you supposed to take of soy? My pills
Are 40 mg each? Im thinking 2 a day

 

[poppy666]

40 mg's is equivalent to 20 mg's of Clomid, so just go from there

 

[JLForever1204]

I am doing Soy CD 2-6. I am on CD 5 and so far I've done:

CD 2 ~ 80mg
CD 3 ~ 80mg
CD 4 ~ 120mg
CD 5 ~ 120mg

For tomorrow night, should I stay at 120mg or do 160mg?

 

[poppy666]

Go for the 160mg be a devil

 

[JLForever1204]

Go for the 160mg be a devil

Haha! I think I will. I normally ovulate on my own, but my miscarriage in August threw my whole cycle off, so that's why I am trying soy.

Hopefully the 160mg I take tonight just gives it an extra boost!

 

[poppy666]

Yeah i ovulated regular but was getting old 40 so wanted a bigger healthier egg so tried Soy x

 

[brielle_best]

Im doing:
Cd5-9
80mg 80mg 120mg 120mg 160mg

 

[Blessingcomin]

Hello ladies I am new to taking soy I took them cd3-7 I am on cd 14 waiting to I hope I o soon if not this cycle will be a bust baby dust to everyone.