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Most studies say that it is more beneficial to BD once a day. A while ago they used to say every 2nd day but now they've realised every day is best. I also don't know how long it takes for it.to.travel down the fallopian tube but once you've ovulated your egg starts to break down and is gone by 24hours later so the aim is to have lots of BD before Ov so the spermies cans catch a fresh newly released egg

AFM - 2nd day od temp rise signalling Ov so BD marathon is over and it's 2dpo and into the 2ww for me :)

Wish me luck it's my first preseed cycle.

I just read your reply, we went ahead anyway lol. That's interesting about everynight. He had to give an SA and refrain for 3-5 nights, apparently that gives optimum sample? Yet I've read a book by professor winston who said dtd every day as research has shown it's more likely to produce pregnancy. Also smep advises every other day and then every day for 3 days after +opk. Maybe everybody is different & it works for some and not others?
Fingers crossed for you and thanks for your advice xxx

I meant everyday during your fertile window which is basically what both those people say.

3-5days would probably give you the biggest reading which would be best in terms of sperm analysis. But i read somewhere in terms of TTC if you refrain for an extended period of time that first ejaculation is mostly full of dead spermies. I read somewhere that recommended BD once around 4 days before your fertile window BD marathon so by the time you start your marathon it's all fresh sperm and not over 4 days old. I think the people who are usually told to do BD less than every day are those whose hubbies have low sperm count so they REALLY need to build it up before BD.

You seem to know your stuff, I get you when u mean every day during fertile window, I think DH would wear himself out if it was constantly every night lol, even though he complains about only doing it every other day anyway. We tried every night for one cycle, by day 5 he physically couldn't manage it, which happened to be ovulation, I think that's when I decided to relax about it a bit more as don't want to make it about timing and ruin the spontaneity for me (he's said from the start he doesn't want to know when fertile days are).

Anyway, we will know next month what is best for us once SA results from February are back, then again, that's what his swimmers looked like 3 months before (and he's stopped alcohol since then too) so for all we know his February results could have changed in a big way since he gave that SA in.

Have subconsciously smepped this month on soy too, cycle 14 and AF due on our 1st anniversary. Good luck to all of you!
 
i'm only regurgitating what i've found on google. So for all we know it's hogswash. lol. Google isn't always very reliable.
 
i'm only regurgitating what i've found on google. So for all we know it's hogswash. lol. Google isn't always very reliable.

Regurgitate away! Research is so time consuming! It's good to share & compare! Xxx
 
hahahaha it's just that i'm an expert procrastinator with my Uni work (like this exact moment for example) and spend hours googling conception and babies rather than studying. Plus i wanted to know everything about everything when i was TTC #1 and i've been TTC#2 for a while now so i've been reading this info for so long and it's just all accumulating...
 
Hey ladies I need some advice... I am on CD62 and I *think* AF is on her way either today or tomorrow. I want to start Soy Iso this cycle to help with ovulation (I don't on my own). I have my first Fertility Appointment on Friday, not sure what is going to happen, it's probably just an initial appointment to learn about me/my history. My ideal would be the doctor prescribing Clomid, but I can't see it with the first appointment (though I've had all tests under the sun they usually give you before prescribing). Anyway... if my period starts, should I start Soy Iso or wait it out?? What if I do take it and he prescribes me Clomid, can I take both? I have LONG cycles so I don't want to be out until mid-June if I don't make a decision and don't get either!
 
Clomid would be better than Soy, if AF arrive tomorrow (Tuesday) i would wait too see if he prescribes you clomid, if not start the Soy-iso asap on CD4, if he does then he'll probably tell you to take it right away, if he says to wait for the following cycle THEN i'd probably take the soy.
 
AF started Saturday full flow, so today would be CD 3 and I am planning on starting Soy tonight, cd 3-7, starting out with 120 mg then increasing to 200 by the last night.
CD3=120mg
CD4=160mg
CD5=160mg
CD6=200mg
CD7=200mg
Is that too high to start out with first cycle? I am also drinking Red raspberry leaf tea, which am only drinking one cup a day, thinking of starting baby aspirin but should talk with dr first? Not taking a prenatal yet, need to make an appointment to get bloodwork and stuff.
 
i drank 3 cups of RLT per day a few cycles back! stuff was awesome!!! my AF went from 3 days to about 6 obviously showing that it did indeed increase my lining. It also made all of my PMS and period pains DISAPPEAR!
 
I have a 5 day peroid anyway...Just hope that it works soon. I really wanted a summer 2013 Baby, but if it doesnt happen this cycle always next. and It did take a while to get pregnant last time, Hopefully will do whatever it takes. Thanks ladies, all of you are so helpful and fx for some bfps soon.
 
AF started Saturday full flow, so today would be CD 3 and I am planning on starting Soy tonight, cd 3-7, starting out with 120 mg then increasing to 200 by the last night.
CD3=120mg
CD4=160mg
CD5=160mg
CD6=200mg
CD7=200mg
Is that too high to start out with first cycle? I am also drinking Red raspberry leaf tea, which am only drinking one cup a day, thinking of starting baby aspirin but should talk with dr first? Not taking a prenatal yet, need to make an appointment to get bloodwork and stuff.

Only my wee opinion, but 200mg is max, so if it's first time I would try a lower dose to see how you get on with side effects. The second time I took I tried a higher dose and had hellish nightmares on the nights I took it and ovulation pains were so severe that painkillers didn't work and I ended up in bed. This is my third dose this month, I went back down to lower dose and had no nightmares and just a little but of ov pain.

As I said, it's just my opinion, but once you've took it there's no going back as it affects that whole cycle, so personally I'd start lower

Fingers crossed for you xxx
 
The :witch: bitch arrived this morning :cry:. I'm not going to take soy this cycle as i'm not sure if or when i ovulated last cycle:shrug:, going to have a natural cycle & see what's going on :winkwink:

FX for all you :hugs:
 
Sorry to hear shellie. Hope your natural cycle has a more positive outcome :)

AFM I've had a temp from today at 6dpo. So either I didn't ov and now I'm gettin better my temp is lowering, or I have ov and AF is due, or it's a random dip. Just wish I knew either way. I have a blood Test at 8dpo to check hormone levels including progesterone so that will say for sure whether I ov or not.
 
diddums have you ever had a dip at 6dpo before?

Maybe it's an implantation dip.

Maybe it's just a random dip.

Maybe you did in fact Ov earlier...
 
diddums have you ever had a dip at 6dpo before?

Maybe it's an implantation dip.

Maybe it's just a random dip.

Maybe you did in fact Ov earlier...

Well this is only my second cycle temping so i have no idea lol I didn't last cycle but then again this cycle is so long anything goes lol

Does anyone know how to bring on AF naturally? If I get to cd80 and both then I just want to get AF and start again on soy!
 
I took 120 mg last night, might just stick with the 120 mg for this cycle all 5 days. I know my lil sister is taking it and she didnt work today, said she was cramping really bad so I am going to have to text her to let her know to take a lower dose as its probably the soy causing it. Thanks for the opinion, I havent had any symptoms as it was my first dose last night.
 
I took 120 mg last night, might just stick with the 120 mg for this cycle all 5 days. I know my lil sister is taking it and she didnt work today, said she was cramping really bad so I am going to have to text her to let her know to take a lower dose as its probably the soy causing it. Thanks for the opinion, I havent had any symptoms as it was my first dose last night.

That's the dose I took this first cycle using soy. I'm in the tww so f'xd it did the trick!
 
diddums have you ever had a dip at 6dpo before?

Maybe it's an implantation dip.

Maybe it's just a random dip.

Maybe you did in fact Ov earlier...

Well this is only my second cycle temping so i have no idea lol I didn't last cycle but then again this cycle is so long anything goes lol

Does anyone know how to bring on AF naturally? If I get to cd80 and both then I just want to get AF and start again on soy!

I've heard this question being asked alot and i've never seen an answer that doesn't require you to ask your doctor.
 
I was going to start out with 80 mg then take it to 120 mg by the fifth day. if this cycle doesnt work will maybe do that, then just increase it every cycle. Not sure I want to advance that fast. Trying not to make it a big deal. hopefully we see some BFP's really soon.
 
Morning ladies.

My temp stayed down today I I am 99% sure I haven't ov and the high temps are due to the cold and mild chest infection I had. I am going to wait until saturday and I no af I will take 10-12g vitamin C and drink parsley tea to bring on AF. Hopefully that will work!
 
Morning ladies.

My temp stayed down today I I am 99% sure I haven't ov and the high temps are due to the cold and mild chest infection I had. I am going to wait until saturday and I no af I will take 10-12g vitamin C and drink parsley tea to bring on AF. Hopefully that will work!

OH MY GOD! i totally forgot about parsley tea!! I knew that.

My friend was trying to bring hers on but in the end waited for it naturally but i remember now it was because she couldn't find parsley tea anywhere!
 

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