SPD/PGP Support thread

Evening all!

My SPD pain definitley got worse when baby went head down - midwife reckons she is 2/5ths engaged and I am really feeling it in my pubic bone... which feels like its splitting in two aswell!!

Had a scan today and my placenta has moved so dont need a C section now, so some good news finally! Just have to do some research on natural birth with SPD (although looking back through this thread is a good source)..
 
I know Baby H is head down and has been for 8 weeks but I am wondering if he has had a growth spurt or something? Or maybe has become a little engaged as this week, is it too early? I can't think of any other reason why the last week has been so sore.
 
This ones not engaged but even having head down seems to have added to my pain.

It's normal for first pregnancy babies to engage from 31 weeks onwards, second etc babies tend ot go up and down more (who knows why.) and drop during labour itself.
 
Morning ladies!

How are we all this morning? I had a horrid night. I woke up 4 times I think, I lost track. Each time was due to something non-SPD related, a nightmare (have had them all through pregnancy) or heartburn, but when awake I discover I am uncomfortable so begin the process of turning over, or at least getting comfortable again.

Not only I am in pain on the actual pubis but my whole right hand side hurts, hip, leg, back. My left hand side seems to be OK though, which is mostly the side I sleep on.
 
Caroline -YAY for your induction date -April 2nd will be your baby's birthday wow - how surreal is that -knowing exactly when it's going to be lol ?-

MrsG - I had a day like that yesterday too, was actually in the doorway of ASDA with my sis pushing the trolley and decided to hell with it, if there's nothing in for dinner then we'll have to eat carryout -and turned around and went home. It is just too sore struggling around on these stupid crutches, sore hands, shoulders now on top of the sore pelvis, hips, back :cry::cry: -sorry having a self -pity day -shit sleep last night ,really sore every time I moved :cry:

xEmx -So glad your good to go with your preferred delivery choice, Now that the placenta has moved up is there no chance it will move down again? (Sorry if totally stupid question :blush:, but I have had no experience of this at all lol)

Lol :haha::haha:at mummytilda and her spray painted crutches lol -actually would consider doing this too, if I didn't have to give mine back once baby is here lol :haha:

Tudor rose -how is working going? Hope they are going easy on you, and letting you rest up alot. xx

Have a good weekend everyone :hugs::hugs:
 
thats great new Caroline.

pratically crawelled home from work today, im in agony now, didnt sleep last night due to the pain i keep thinking 8 more weeks thats all then no work!

sorry your having a cr@ppy time of it wannabubba4

Mrs G- i have them moments in the night when i wake up and think time to turn over and try to stop my self yelping as i turn.
 
Thanks girls, I'm really chuffed I'vre got a date. Depends on how quick the induction goes, lo may not arrive til Sat.

I'm having loads of problems trouble sleeping, keep waking up in pain & finding it hatd to get comfortable but at least there is a definite end to it, in 3 weeks & 6 days.

xEmx - I had a natural delivery with spd last time, so if you want ask anything then feel free.
 
I know you've said a few things with birth and spd caroline and really appreciate it!

But my new concern is, how are they gonna do examinations, I can't lift my legs up sideways or spread them like you do when you have a smear and am really worried the midwives won't take the pain seriously and push it further with the advice to just have gas an air to ease pain, not alot of the midwives have been particularly supportive of spd, they all seem to just fob it off!
 
Ok - so here are the crutches! Fluorescent pink with glitter and silver accents. Sparkly pair of socks to match - all much sparklier IRL!https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/carlacawser/DSC_0968.jpg

Work wasn't too bad today, wore my serola belt and used my crutches between prescriptions and customers. Will see how we go!
 
Shining_Star I have been advised to measure my pain free gap between the knees and have that written in my notes and to make my DH aware of it. I keep emphasising the importance of that to him. Also another sufferer advised getting a piece of ribbon cut to the length and attaching that to the front of your notes/birth plan as a visual aid. My main problem is my pain free gap varies on a daily basis and the last couple of days has been pretty much non existent and even with codeine only a little.
 
Morning!

Mummytilda - loving the crutches!!

Wannabubba - Placenta wont move back down now as it usually stretches up as baby grows rather than down, not a silly question at all.. they do tend to move, mine just took its time about it and it was really starting to bother me not knowing either way what sort of birth to prepare for, especially so late into the game!

Thanks Caroline - I dont know what I would do without this thread, as mentioned on here before, its a tricky thing to cope with as SPD just doesnt seem to be considered an issue with so many health professionals... I see a midwife, GP and Consultant and they all seem to push me from one to the other for information!

As Mrs Glitz mentions - my OH is aware I need to be careful of movement during labour - and my midwife has said to write SPD in big red letters on my birthplan... the thing is, I definitley have SPD but dont use crutches and only paracetomal for pain relief.. not in any way as bad as some of you ladies.. my pain free gap is still massive sideways, not so good for scissor action... I tend to suffer after overuse, rather than at the time - if you understand what I mean? So - what worries me is the fact that I will make things worse for after the birth because I wont really know my limitations during labour!

Sorry if its long - am mainly pain free this morning, just got lots going on in my head worrying about all things birth and baby.. xx
 
Oooh good, I wondered if there would be an spd thread on here!

It was me that mentioned to glitz about the ribbon!!


Little history on me, it's my 5th pg (first 3 ended in mc) and I have a daughter who is 21 months old. With her pg I developed spd at 8 weeks pg and was off work by 14 weeks on crutches and codeine. By 22 weeks I was quite genuinely bedbound on buprenorphine patches and oramorph. By 30 weeks I was only really able to get downstairs once a day and by 38 weeks not at all. I was hospitalised at that point as it would take me an eternity to get to the loo and back (even in hospital with an en-suite it would take me 10 mins on crutches to get the 4 feet to my loo and 15 minutes to get back again) and my oramorph usage was 2 hourly, day and night. I started having daily sweeps at 38+4 which, with by that point, a 6 inch pain free gap, was absolutely agonizing.. Not least because it was the consultant who was doing them rather than one of the midwife so she could sweep my tonsils (were I to still have them!) at the same time! This resulted in no change to the favourability of my cervix so, eventually, at T+4 we started inducing me.. 4 Prostins later I was just about coming up to the 6 hour mark where I would have been counted as a failed induction when my waters broke (typically the mw had just been in and said I'm coming back in an hour, if there's no change then I think enough's enough and they broke 5 minutes later!). Immediate contractions ensued - 3-4 in every 10 minutes, strong on palpation and lasting at that point for 45-60 seconds.. Good good good everyone thinks, lets see how it goes! An hour and a half later the ward manager was getting twitchy about how strongly I was contracting and pushed me down to labourward herself with hubby (also a nurse, I'm a mw too) and there I was thinking well if I have got to 5cm when they examine me I'll be really pleased!! So they do all the usual bits, leave me for a couple of hours and then examine me to see how I'm going. 1cm, uneffaced cervix still 1cm thick and posterior. Pants. So an epidural was sited and off we went with synto - this REALLY stepped up the pain in my pelvis with each contraction.. Epidural topped up and topped up again. Still no difference - hulking down G&A with each contraction even though her head was still at -3 (so not really anywhere near my pelvis, lol!). After 15 hours of contractions she started getting a bit fed up and I was beyond fedup of the pain in my pelvis even though I had an overblocked epidural so had a section! Since then we've done attatched parenting, we carried her in a sling everywhere until at 16 months old I was too pg with this one to carry her so we bought a buggy! We've just stopped bf too at 21 months.

So - this pg! I started again with spd before I'd had a bfp - in fact it was what made me doubt the bfn I'd had on what I thought was 13dpo but turned out to only be 8dpo! I think because we were still bf the ligaments just never went back and so I used to find it worse around the time of AF but this was something else! By 8 weeks pg I was off sick with my pelvis, my gp was happy to sign me off there and then for the rest of the pg but I tried 2 weeks of intensive physio and went back in for one shift - within 3 hours I was home again in agony and that was that for work for the rest of the pg! I started trying BOWEN at that point - do do do do do try it, I cannot thank it enough for the difference it has made this pg. Sure my pain free gap isn't great at times and the amount of pain I'm in is completely hideous at times and the limitations I have on walking/pushing a supermarket trolley etc are very real - but at 33 weeks I can still walk and still get out of the house, I remember my parents visiting at 24 weeks and me trying to get to the pub 3 doors down in our village and it taking me 20 minutes to get back again.. I saw someone twice a week, I haven't been for a bit with one thing and another but what she did for me still seems to be helping so it's all good!

I'm hoping for a vbac this time because my pelvis is so much better (although after last night I'm debating this, lol!) and hope to stay at home in labour for as long as possible! She's still breech at the moment so fingers crossed she turns!

Anyways, looking forward to chatting with you all - and just to give you all a bit of hope actually, my senior reg (who is a very senior reg who runs her own clinics etc, she's pretty much a consultant without the tag) said she had never seen anybody who suffered with spd to the extent I did - but that doesnt, thankfully, seem that you're definitely going to be that way in subsequent pgs! I was pretty scared when I was off work by the time my spd started with my first pg, we didn't know how we were going to get through the following 32 weeks.. But we have - and I do attribute it to the Bowen and that's something my Pain Team Consultant has been very interested in and is now looking into Bowen with a view for recommending it to his patients!
 
Mummytilda loving the crutches lol.

Caroline so glad you got a date for your induction.

Tudor Rose really sorry your having to push yourself to work hun, no possible way I could. Wish you could just relax a bit.

Not doing to good with the pain myself just now, met friends for dinner last night, lovely to get out but I was so sore I just couldn't relax and have been up most of the night. Contemplating taking my codeine today. My pain today is round the back and at both hips, left being the worse, but I've also got that burning feeling like you've been kicked between the legs. Pain is definitely changing the further on I get.
 
Hi Sunflowers
id like to know more about this BOWEN you speak of as we want more children and the SPD at the moment is not helping convince me of that even though im not suffering as bad as some of these ladies i manage with a support belt rather than crutches although i cant walk unassisted for very far but im managing to deal with my DS most days and with the techniques and exersizes my physio has given me do help me cope with it, its only 3 wks till my baby is here for sure now so im happy i made it this far even though i cant drive any longer and cant carry my son then ive found ways around it,

I have resorted back to co-codamol in the last 36 hours due to toothache so its been masking the pain of the spd as well although its worn off now so im a bit sore but i develop a tolerance quickly to painkillers so try to avoid using them as much as possible, im not looking forward to sitting in the dentists chair on tuesday though i can see that one hurting already,
 
and for all my lovely but sore friends I do hope you get some rest today and that it allows you some painfree time to enjoy the weekend
 
Hi ladies. Welcome Sunflowers, I kept meaning to tell you about this thread when I saw you joined here, it's where I let off about pain I am in now! :lol:

Today isn't actually alright pain wise, one of those days when I think I could happily manage work if it wasn't for the tiredness! It's a gorgeous day and I would have loved to pop down to the Quay or or a short stroll (hobble!) along the beach but DH is working and I fear anyone else will get rather impatient with me. I even have to remind DH to slow down when we pop out. Hopefully we will have some nice weather on Tuesday which is his day off. I bet sods law will dictate that the pain will be horrible then!

I had a horrible night last night, not due to pain but the fire alarms being set off! Again once woken, it took me ages to fall asleep and get comfy again. They were set off at 2am, 6.30, 8.30, 11.30 and 12.30. The manager finally isolated them and called an engineer out so I just got a couple of hours sleep!

I will be giving Bowen a shot after Baby H is born too. I would have tried now but we need to move before the LO arrives so we need to save, save, save.
 
Here you go, info on Bowen!

https://www.thebowentechnique.com/
 
Hi ladies,

I just wanted to ask a question or two about SPD! I haven't been diagnosed with this but think that I probably do have it, although I think from reading some of your posts I only have a very mild form.

I always have massive pain at nights in bed - if I try to roll over or get up I get real pain in my groin/pelvis area. This does go though once I have got moving! This feeling also happens when I am say in one place for too long. Then in the last few days I have had this clicking feeling. But I don't know where it is coming from!! It is in my hip area but is definately not my hips, or my babies as he/she is head down.

Do you think that it is a mild form of SPD? And secondly, is it likely that it will just stay as a mild form given that I only have a few weeks left (hopefully!)? Or is it worth trying to get treatment for as it might stop it getting worse?

Thank you and hope you all aren't suffering too badly,

xx
 
Sounds like you def have it, make an appointment with your Dr or midwife as soon as possible so they cant help you early on.
 

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