State, Private Or Home Schooling?

[Wobbles]

Sorry to take this slightly off topic from previous comments (since it's moving fast) but as this is one of the threads (one of many) that is coming to our attention can I just remind you that your all suppose to be adults? WHY do I have to remind you anyway? Answer: because some of the members recently just seem to be squabbling for the sake of it, then follows childish behaviour "report me then", "are the admin apart of the clique thats why it's ok" blah blah blah! NO we are not impressed but someone tell me how we 'tell off' grown women who are using the board as parents, some even older than ourselves. It's getting difficult and the tone around BabyandBump is NOT being unnoticed.

GROW UP, do I have to say any more?

This scared the shizz outta me! Think it's the avatar more than anything I'm quite a jumpy person

A banned member made it for me - I liked it

 

[New Mrs W]

Does anyone know if Catholic schools take children from other religions?

Yes they do, although they will take a Catholic child before a non-Catholic child, but if there are places not wanted by Catholic children they will take any other faith as long as the parents are willing to support the mission statement of the school.

 

[Nicoleoleole]

Sorry to take this slightly off topic from previous comments (since it's moving fast) but as this is one of the threads (one of many) that is coming to our attention can I just remind you that your all suppose to be adults? WHY do I have to remind you anyway? Answer: because some of the members recently just seem to be squabbling for the sake of it, then follows childish behaviour "report me then", "are the admin apart of the clique thats why it's ok" blah blah blah! NO we are not impressed but someone tell me how we 'tell off' grown women who are using the board as parents, some even older than ourselves. It's getting difficult and the tone around BabyandBump is NOT being unnoticed.

GROW UP, do I have to say any more?

This scared the shizz outta me! Think it's the avatar more than anything I'm quite a jumpy person

A banned member made it for me - I liked it

Awww! That was nice of them !

 

[Wobbles]

I don't think it was meant to be 'nice'

 

[littlepne]

I went to Catholic primary and high school, and religion was a huge part of school life. Until science lessons, of course!

WRT fees for private schools, on top of that you have cost of uniform, sports kits, any extra curricular activities etc which usually work out more than the same cost in a state school (which is a lot as well!)

 

[LankyDoodle]

We could easily afford private school, but I am a trained teacher and having weighed it all up, I've decided state primary is what we are going to go for (we have decided together I should say!). I feel primary schooling is just as important, if not more important, as secondary schooling; I want Isabella to have a good grounding and have the opportunity to experience lots outside of school in her early years. I am not saying that is never possible if you choose private primary, but it is more difficult as funds are squeezed by not only fees but very expensive kit, trips, holidays with school, keeping up with the Jones's. I also believe a child's attitude to education, and how well they do, depends a lot on home. I've seen privately educated children, flunk and just lose interest; I know plenty of state educated children (I was one, too!) who got fantastic grades and remained dedicated to learning.

Secondary is a separate issue and I'd probably be looking to send her to private school if we can afford to do so.

We do have horses and I want her to benefit from maybe having her own eventually. We won't be able to entertain that if she goes private throughout her schooling. Piano lessons, ballet etc... all of those things will have to be kept to a minimum. She can do them at school but it still costs more on top (music lessons are about £400 for 10 lessons (a term) at our local private primary.

 

[aliss]

Most of you are from the UK, right? I think this is a social class issue more than anything. In the US and Canada at least, this isn't really a debate that pops up. I see quite a divide between such strong opinions about private/public schooling when the UK girls talk about it. It reminds me of certain caste systems that exist in other cultures. Such strong opinions!

Not saying anyone is right or wrong - but I think some people need to take a step back and think perhaps they are so extremely opinionated due to cultural influences that heavily bias them against a form of education, rather than if the differences are really that extreme.

 

[LPF]

I don't feel jealous of private schooling, I actually feel quite sorry for some kids. My aunt and uncle just manage to pay my cousins fees after moving her from a state school that she liked. They can't afford to 'keep up with jones' as someone else said so she can't go on the trips or have the must have things which singles her out.

I'm not sure but I think teachers in private schools don't have to be trained in the same way. I think the school could employ anyone to teach with or without qualifications to do so because they are responsible independently, I might be wrong tho.

 

[hodbert]

I went to private school and hated it. I may have come out with better grades than I would have if I went to a state school but I was socially backwards, bullied for much of the time and have ended up with problems afterwards as a result. It didnt help that it was single sex either and I've always said my children will never attedd single sex, as a result of my experience. I think people need to think about the social experience as well as the education, children need to be happy at school too.

At the end of the day I think its more about the school itself than whether its private or not - there are bad private schools and good state schools. We will look at all the schools around us and decide on what is the best for Holly.

And after 7 years of private education and 3 years at university I ended up as an admin assistant. Not that I'm thick - I got good grades - but just to say that just because you pay for private education doesnt mean the child ends up being super clever or in a high-flying job. That also depends on the child and what they choose to do with their lives.

 

[dani_tinks]

Just to reply to a comment earlier in the thread, in my case, I am in no way jealous of people that are sending their children to private schools. I believe that's the attitude a lot of private school pupils have. 'You're not as good as me, and you wish you could be. You're jealous' sort of thing.

I didn't mention anywhere that I couldn't afford it. That's not the case at all.
We have quite a famous private school in my town, Bolitho school. I know a lot of what happens there.. it's not something I'd want my daughter to be involved with. One girl joined my class in my 'commoner' school because she was bullied endlessly because she didn't have a horse. She was 100x happier when she got away from there. We're still friends now.

I feel very strongly about this sort of thing.

I was bullied at the STATE school I went to because I DID have a horse. So bizzaire...

I was horribly bullied at state school for speaking more politely and properly (I guess) than the other girls . I think bullying goes on wherever you go unfortunatley. This is why me and my DF are still unsure where to send Jacob. We can afford private, but the state schools around our area do seem very nice . It's going to be a case of pros and cons!

 

[Mum2b_Claire]

Just to reply to a comment earlier in the thread, in my case, I am in no way jealous of people that are sending their children to private schools. I believe that's the attitude a lot of private school pupils have. 'You're not as good as me, and you wish you could be. You're jealous' sort of thing.

I didn't mention anywhere that I couldn't afford it. That's not the case at all.
We have quite a famous private school in my town, Bolitho school. I know a lot of what happens there.. it's not something I'd want my daughter to be involved with. One girl joined my class in my 'commoner' school because she was bullied endlessly because she didn't have a horse. She was 100x happier when she got away from there. We're still friends now.

I feel very strongly about this sort of thing.

I was bullied at the STATE school I went to because I DID have a horse. So bizzaire...

I was horribly bullied at state school for speaking more politely and properly (I guess) than the other girls . I think bullying goes on wherever you go unfortunatley.

This is exactly what I said further back in this thread, you can't win!

 

[Marzipan_girl]

Just to reply to a comment earlier in the thread, in my case, I am in no way jealous of people that are sending their children to private schools. I believe that's the attitude a lot of private school pupils have. 'You're not as good as me, and you wish you could be. You're jealous' sort of thing.

I didn't mention anywhere that I couldn't afford it. That's not the case at all.
We have quite a famous private school in my town, Bolitho school. I know a lot of what happens there.. it's not something I'd want my daughter to be involved with. One girl joined my class in my 'commoner' school because she was bullied endlessly because she didn't have a horse. She was 100x happier when she got away from there. We're still friends now.

I feel very strongly about this sort of thing.

I was bullied at the STATE school I went to because I DID have a horse. So bizzaire...

I was horribly bullied at state school for speaking more politely and properly (I guess) than the other girls . I think bullying goes on wherever you go unfortunatley. This is why me and my DF are still unsure where to send Jacob. We can afford private, but the state schools around our area do seem very nice . It's going to be a case of pros and cons!

Ditto. Thats exactly what happened to me...

 

[dani_tinks]

Just to reply to a comment earlier in the thread, in my case, I am in no way jealous of people that are sending their children to private schools. I believe that's the attitude a lot of private school pupils have. 'You're not as good as me, and you wish you could be. You're jealous' sort of thing.

I didn't mention anywhere that I couldn't afford it. That's not the case at all.
We have quite a famous private school in my town, Bolitho school. I know a lot of what happens there.. it's not something I'd want my daughter to be involved with. One girl joined my class in my 'commoner' school because she was bullied endlessly because she didn't have a horse. She was 100x happier when she got away from there. We're still friends now.

I feel very strongly about this sort of thing.

I was bullied at the STATE school I went to because I DID have a horse. So bizzaire...

I was horribly bullied at state school for speaking more politely and properly (I guess) than the other girls . I think bullying goes on wherever you go unfortunatley.

This is exactly what I said further back in this thread, you can't win!

Sorry for repeating ya

 

[Mum2b_Claire]

Just to reply to a comment earlier in the thread, in my case, I am in no way jealous of people that are sending their children to private schools. I believe that's the attitude a lot of private school pupils have. 'You're not as good as me, and you wish you could be. You're jealous' sort of thing.

I didn't mention anywhere that I couldn't afford it. That's not the case at all.
We have quite a famous private school in my town, Bolitho school. I know a lot of what happens there.. it's not something I'd want my daughter to be involved with. One girl joined my class in my 'commoner' school because she was bullied endlessly because she didn't have a horse. She was 100x happier when she got away from there. We're still friends now.

I feel very strongly about this sort of thing.

I was bullied at the STATE school I went to because I DID have a horse. So bizzaire...

I was horribly bullied at state school for speaking more politely and properly (I guess) than the other girls . I think bullying goes on wherever you go unfortunatley.

This is exactly what I said further back in this thread, you can't win!

Sorry for repeating ya

Ooh no not at all, just empathising!
I actually used to try and speak less 'properly' when I was younger

 

[marley2580]

I was home educated and I will be home educating my kids (I believe home education to be very different to home schooling btw). I watched my sister, who chose to go to school at 8, change from a kid with a love of learning to a child that wouldn't leave the house without make up and who thought she was stupid. I don't want my kids to lose their love of learning.

 

[New Mrs W]

I reckon jealousy is a major factor and a lot of ignorance. I actually think deep down if people did have the money alot of parents would send their children to private school!

And this here is the exact attitude I would work damned hard to ensure my child did NOT foster if he were to go to public school. I think it takes a certain kind of person to think that others are jealous of them, and unfortunately a great many of them are to be found in public schools, or are the product of a public school.

I have been lucky in my life in that I was awarded excellent grades in my GCSEs, A-Levels and in my degree and the only part of that education that had to be paid for was my degree. I would never be so bigotted as to think that someone would be jealous of me and I think a lot of that comes from the fact that I have always been surrounded by family and friends who are extremely well grounded and for that I am thankful.

In fact, reading some of the opinions on here has helped me make my mind up that I will be searching for a good local state school for my son and any subsequent children.

 

[Seity]

I'd love to home school him, but it's really not an option since I work full time and unless we win the lotto or something that's not going to change.
My dad is currently home schooling both my brother's boys, but they don't live near us. I also know a lot of very intelligent, very well socialized home schoolers because their parents did it right and made sure they were involved with other kids through sports and the like.
I love to be able to afford to send him to private school, but the public school system will have to do.
I'll try to actually teach him at home as well as I can, since I think the school system around here is crap.

 

[New Mrs W]

aob - I dont get why all your posts have to start some kind of warfare between people, ive noticed it in alot of threads.

Nobody said that they are ALL 'snobbish', they were mentioning the kids in there local area's, if someone did say this, then i must have missed it and i apologise on there behalf, but seriously, tone down the hostility!

Then use the report button?

Just because i do not sugar coat everything or write lots of kisses at the end, doesn't mean i am being hostile. I say it like it is, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's posts like yours, that actually start it off.

I'm quite happy with what i said, as many people agree with me. So, it can't just be me thinking it. I just have the balls to say what others don't, i'm proud of that

This is an attitude I wouldn't be proud of. People who claim to "say it as it is" or who "speak as they find" often seem to miss the basic principle of good manners.

 

[Dragonfly]

I just want my kid to get a good education and qualifications. I didnt get them as we where not allowed them, we where classed as stupid. I left one school as I was getting bullied, was beaten up so much for being the quiet girl with a brother everyone hated because he was quiet and my name that i had to leave. I got put in the lower classes and never moved. I went from A on my subjects to automatic fails. But i learned how to speak up and stuck up for so many in my class that teachers treated like shit. That was an all girls school anyway so my sons obviously wont get to go there. Grammar school hopefully for them as I turned one down because my uncle worked there and we didnt get on.

 

[KittyVentura]

I think it's worth saying that state schools can be VERY different depending on where they are in a town. DH and I both went to state schools in Swindon.

I, coming from a single mother on benefits, went to state schools in a very poor and run down council estate. Most of the people I knew there went straight onto benefits from school and got pregnant young. They still live in the same council estate and even look exactly as they did in school. Luckily I was THAT scummy (thanks mum) was bullied badly and so the first thing I did after school was get the hell out of there because I wanted better for myself.

DH, coming from well off working parents, went to a state school in a "better" area of Swindon. Most of the people he went to school with now have decent careers (not jobs... careers) and own their own houses etc.

I don't know how much is based on the school and how much is based on the parenting. Because of this, if we do not go private, we'd be incredibly careful and picky when choosing a state school. I'd not send them anywhere that even remotely reminds me of my schools and definitely won't be just packing them off to the closest school because it's easier.

Oh and before anyone gets offended... no, not everyone on a council estate will have wound up the way the people I knew at school did, but what I've stated was fact. I saw this with my own eyes and can only speak of what I know xx