I am so sorry to hear that. Did you see in the papers recently the story of the "miracle new breakthrough IVF" costing £170. It has been trialled in Belguim and they hope to bring it here, if it meets regulations. Lets hope they bring it here as it will help so many couples. xx
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Lamara- I'm so sorry sweetie. Make sure you try with the NHS. Go and see them asap as its a bit of a wait, but not too long. How long have you been TTC? The minimum is 3 years. I had one go through NHS but unfortunately it didn't work.
Also you can try naturally too you never know.
April wow £170 ivf, sounds amazing I will Google it. When's your appointment?
Also you can try naturally too you never know.
April wow £170 ivf, sounds amazing I will Google it. When's your appointment?
Yeah it was in the papers a few weeks back, here is a copy:-
The cost of IVF can be cut dramatically from thousands of pounds to around £170 to start a "new era" in IVF, fertility doctors from Belgium claim.
Twelve children have been born through the technique, which replaces expensive medical equipment with "kitchen cupboard" ingredients.
Data, presented at fertility conference in London, suggests the success rate is similar to conventional IVF.
Experts said there was big potential to open up IVF to the developing world.
Cut price Fertility treatment is expensive. In the UK, it costs around £5,000 per cycle.
High levels of the gas carbon dioxide are needed when growing embryos in an IVF clinic in order to control the acidity levels. This is maintained using carbon dioxide incubators, medical grade gas and air purification.
Instead, the team at the Genk Institute for Fertility Technology mixed inexpensive citric acid and bicarbonate of soda to produce carbon dioxide.
Lead researcher Prof Willem Ombelet said: "We succeeded with an almost Alka-Selzer like technique. Our first results suggest it is at least as good as normal IVF and we now have 12 healthy babies born."
The results, presented to the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology conference, showed a pregnancy rate of 30% - approximately the same as IVF.
The researchers believe the cost of IVF can be cut to just 10-15% of services in Western countries.
'Not for everyone'
The technique cannot completely replace conventional IVF.
It would not help men with severe infertility who require more advanced treatment in which the sperm is injected into the egg, known intra-cytoplasmic sperm injection.
However, Prof Ombelet told the BBC the aim was to bring fertility treatment to the rest of the world.
"If you don't have a child in Africa, or also South America or Asia, it's a disaster. It's a disaster from an economic point of view, a psychological point of view. They throw you out of the family. You need to help them and nobody helps them."
Even in rich, Western, countries many couples are still unable to afford IVF and the studies are attracting interest.
"We've got demand from the US already."
Geeta Nargund, at St George's Hospital, London, is planning to introduce the techniques to the UK: "We have an obligation to bring down the cost of IVF, otherwise we'll have a situation where only the affluent can afford it."
Stuart Lavery, the director of IVF at Hammersmith Hospital in London, said the study had the potential to have a big impact globally.
"This isn't just about low cost IVF in west London, this is all about can you bring IVF to countries which have unsophisticated medical services where infertility has an incredibly low profile.
"They've show that using a very cheap, very simple technique that you can culture embryos and you can do IVF.
"The weakness of the study is they've done it in a big lab in Belgium, so they need go out and do the same study in Africa now. But if this is real potentially you're talking about bringing IVF to corners of the world where there is no IVF. This is enormous, the potential implications for this could be quite amazing."
The researchers anticipate starting out in Ghana, Uganda or Cape Town.
Lets hope it is brought over here soon! xx
The cost of IVF can be cut dramatically from thousands of pounds to around £170 to start a "new era" in IVF, fertility doctors from Belgium claim.
Twelve children have been born through the technique, which replaces expensive medical equipment with "kitchen cupboard" ingredients.
Data, presented at fertility conference in London, suggests the success rate is similar to conventional IVF.
Experts said there was big potential to open up IVF to the developing world.
Cut price Fertility treatment is expensive. In the UK, it costs around £5,000 per cycle.
High levels of the gas carbon dioxide are needed when growing embryos in an IVF clinic in order to control the acidity levels. This is maintained using carbon dioxide incubators, medical grade gas and air purification.
Instead, the team at the Genk Institute for Fertility Technology mixed inexpensive citric acid and bicarbonate of soda to produce carbon dioxide.
Lead researcher Prof Willem Ombelet said: "We succeeded with an almost Alka-Selzer like technique. Our first results suggest it is at least as good as normal IVF and we now have 12 healthy babies born."
The results, presented to the European Society of Human Reproduction and Embryology conference, showed a pregnancy rate of 30% - approximately the same as IVF.
The researchers believe the cost of IVF can be cut to just 10-15% of services in Western countries.
'Not for everyone'
The technique cannot completely replace conventional IVF.
It would not help men with severe infertility who require more advanced treatment in which the sperm is injected into the egg, known intra-cytoplasmic sperm injection.
However, Prof Ombelet told the BBC the aim was to bring fertility treatment to the rest of the world.
"If you don't have a child in Africa, or also South America or Asia, it's a disaster. It's a disaster from an economic point of view, a psychological point of view. They throw you out of the family. You need to help them and nobody helps them."
Even in rich, Western, countries many couples are still unable to afford IVF and the studies are attracting interest.
"We've got demand from the US already."
Geeta Nargund, at St George's Hospital, London, is planning to introduce the techniques to the UK: "We have an obligation to bring down the cost of IVF, otherwise we'll have a situation where only the affluent can afford it."
Stuart Lavery, the director of IVF at Hammersmith Hospital in London, said the study had the potential to have a big impact globally.
"This isn't just about low cost IVF in west London, this is all about can you bring IVF to countries which have unsophisticated medical services where infertility has an incredibly low profile.
"They've show that using a very cheap, very simple technique that you can culture embryos and you can do IVF.
"The weakness of the study is they've done it in a big lab in Belgium, so they need go out and do the same study in Africa now. But if this is real potentially you're talking about bringing IVF to corners of the world where there is no IVF. This is enormous, the potential implications for this could be quite amazing."
The researchers anticipate starting out in Ghana, Uganda or Cape Town.
Lets hope it is brought over here soon! xx
I really am not that hopeful about it now tho. xxTina and April - thanks, unfortunately we've had our NHS funded treatment, the IUI ended in miscarriage at 7 weeks and we are only given one cycle of IVF which also ended in miscarriage, even more frustating having had a 5AA blast put back! We thought that was the winner! A subsequent frozen cycle just didn't work at all. I was on quite a low when i came across the trial so it kind of gave me something to hope for again, i think that's why i have been so upset at not been accepted, you also think "this must be the one"! So for us it's save, save, save but i'm 35 in October and we haven't got anywhere near enough for IVF, the only thing we could maybe afford is IVF with egg sharing as i believe at B'ham womens it comes down to about £700.
Have an appt tomorrow to just have a chat - my mind is so confused as i think should i deal with the fact that my endo is back first??? I keep hearing about ovarian drilling aswell which i've not heard off so might ask for a referral to a gyno again aswell!
Lamara - so sorry you've had bad news - did they explain why? xx
Great news about the newspaper article - i saw it too and i'm going to an eye on all the clincs to see who hopefully starts it - they'll be inundated with bookings!! It's good that we all keep sharing as the more info we all find out the more we can help each other!
Have an appt tomorrow to just have a chat - my mind is so confused as i think should i deal with the fact that my endo is back first??? I keep hearing about ovarian drilling aswell which i've not heard off so might ask for a referral to a gyno again aswell!
Lamara - so sorry you've had bad news - did they explain why? xx
Great news about the newspaper article - i saw it too and i'm going to an eye on all the clincs to see who hopefully starts it - they'll be inundated with bookings!! It's good that we all keep sharing as the more info we all find out the more we can help each other!
Tina - my background - I'm 26 been ttc for 3 years. Had my ovaries drilled last August after being told I had poly cystic ovaries. They did a dye test and also treated some endo that they found. Since then been on clomid which has regulated my periods and made me ovulate. I feel pregnant in December but it was ectopic, the pregnancy was removed but managed to keep my tube. I've now been told I can no longer take the medication as have had my limit and IVF is my next option. Cannot be funded tho as my partner already has a child, so this now brings me to the trial. If I cannot get on this then it's time to start saving. I wasn't aware of the egg sharing, so may look into that next. xx
Hi
sorry to hear everyone who has not been accepted must be hard, I hope you are able to find a way to get past this hurdle. Such a horrible thing for us to have to pay all that money to get one thing that we all deserve!
Tina- how are things going? Have you had kisspeptin injection yet?
I'm having 5 day transfer tomorrow, after my call on Saturday saying 10 had fertilised on Monday when they called 7 where still going strong with the possibility of the other 3 catching up she said. So will go in tomorrow and see which ones have made it to 5 days.
We are hoping to freeze some I know it's between £800 and £850 to freeze them with 1 yrs storage does anyone know how much per yr it is after that,
Thanks
Holly
sorry to hear everyone who has not been accepted must be hard, I hope you are able to find a way to get past this hurdle. Such a horrible thing for us to have to pay all that money to get one thing that we all deserve!
Tina- how are things going? Have you had kisspeptin injection yet?
I'm having 5 day transfer tomorrow, after my call on Saturday saying 10 had fertilised on Monday when they called 7 where still going strong with the possibility of the other 3 catching up she said. So will go in tomorrow and see which ones have made it to 5 days.
We are hoping to freeze some I know it's between £800 and £850 to freeze them with 1 yrs storage does anyone know how much per yr it is after that,
Thanks
Holly
Hnfc- I am on day 8 stims today. I will be having kisspeptin tomorrow or on Saturday depending on tomorrows scan. Wow blast transfer tomorrow- good luck hun. Also hopefully you will have lots of frosties.
April- poor you hun. Why can't you keep taking meds if they are helping you ovulate? So good that they managed to save your tube. You still have a change to conceive naturally. Hopefully you will get onto the trial and you can begin your Ivf journey :0)
Siday I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. :0( hopefully you are able to egg share. Yes definitely try and be referred to see the specialist to get that sorted.
Please try and stay positive xx
Lamara - how are you sweetheart?
April- poor you hun. Why can't you keep taking meds if they are helping you ovulate? So good that they managed to save your tube. You still have a change to conceive naturally. Hopefully you will get onto the trial and you can begin your Ivf journey :0)
Siday I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. :0( hopefully you are able to egg share. Yes definitely try and be referred to see the specialist to get that sorted.
Please try and stay positive xx
Lamara - how are you sweetheart?
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Just wanted to say hello to you all. I've been a bit of a hoverer on here since hearing about the trial but I've got my first appointment with Dr. Carby tomorrow so I hope you don't mind me jumping in! I'm very nervous and excited that this could be our chance so don't know how well I'll sleep tonight! I know they are almost full now so hope I can just squeeze in...
Looking forward to getting to know you and congrats to all who have already got their BFPs x
Looking forward to getting to know you and congrats to all who have already got their BFPs x
Good luck fir your appointments tomorrow ladies,
I've had transfer 2 little embryos put back, so am finally POPU!! Hehe feels great to say,
Anyone got any tips for the 2 week wait I am currently lying on the sofa and planning to take it easy for the next two days then get back to normal! Any suggestions what to do what not to do would be much appreciated,
Thanks
I've had transfer 2 little embryos put back, so am finally POPU!! Hehe feels great to say,
Anyone got any tips for the 2 week wait I am currently lying on the sofa and planning to take it easy for the next two days then get back to normal! Any suggestions what to do what not to do would be much appreciated,
Thanks
Hello ladies,
I discovered this forum today, I'm 31, have a daughter 12 from a previous relationship, when I was 21, it was discovered That i had two pelvic mass growths and resulted in me losing both tubes...after meeting my partner 9 years ago and now married we've been turned down by nhs as I have a child already, tried for egg sharing however my fertility was to low for that particular clinic, got depression 2 years ago as we were never going to afford it, I come across this kisspeptin trial, I fitted the criteria and after the short period of injections, scans, bloods, and trigger, I ended up with 5 fertilised and by d5 2 blastocysts, one of which was transferred yesterday.
Started getting little cramps this evening, hoping its a good sign, looking forward to blood test day to find out the results. (If I can wait that long
)
Seen some really great posts on here, congrats to every successful results so far. It's quite a roller coaster.
I discovered this forum today, I'm 31, have a daughter 12 from a previous relationship, when I was 21, it was discovered That i had two pelvic mass growths and resulted in me losing both tubes...after meeting my partner 9 years ago and now married we've been turned down by nhs as I have a child already, tried for egg sharing however my fertility was to low for that particular clinic, got depression 2 years ago as we were never going to afford it, I come across this kisspeptin trial, I fitted the criteria and after the short period of injections, scans, bloods, and trigger, I ended up with 5 fertilised and by d5 2 blastocysts, one of which was transferred yesterday.
Started getting little cramps this evening, hoping its a good sign, looking forward to blood test day to find out the results. (If I can wait that long
) Seen some really great posts on here, congrats to every successful results so far. It's quite a roller coaster.
Welcome sajam so your i the same position as me then, do you go in for your blood tests on the 10th it's so exciting! I think cramps are normal (not that I've done this before) bout sounds like they could be implanting.
Wow did you I probably will test early I'm not very good at waiting! Could there be the possibility of a chemical even though we had a different trigger shot as I've read it's the normal trigger shot that confuses the test ?
Wow did you I probably will test early I'm not very good at waiting! Could there be the possibility of a chemical even though we had a different trigger shot as I've read it's the normal trigger shot that confuses the test ?
Hiya
Yes pregnancy blood test on the 10th also.
. But I know il have done a pregnacy test before then hehe. How you feeling? I had the kisspeptin trigger shot. All going so fast.Similar threads
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