Those who dont let you lo see/watch the tv...

[Sarah&Ady]

I cannot believe people are actually posting when Eastenders is on! Jeez! Shhhhhh

 

[littlestar85]

I don't let LO watch much T.V at all and wouldn't have it on in the same room as him until he was nearly one. I do very occasionally let him watch CBeebies but he's not really interested, he finds BBC News more entertaining LOL!

My reasons are mostly because of programmes like Tweenies, Teletubbies & Waybuloo... I just really hate the way they use really dumbed down language e.g. "Jojo go for walk"... why can't they just say "Jojo is going for a walk" or "Jojo wants to go for a walk" etc. I don't want LO thinking that's how you talk. Obviously toddlers do talk like that but personally I believe it's important to maintain a proper manner of speech for them to imitate as even though theirs comes out in a very simplistic manner they are trying to copy what we're saying so it's important that what we're saying makes sense.

I also don't want him to watch any channels with adverts on as they just feed children ideas of things they want to acquire - latest toys etc.


x

Lol, yes teletubbies has to be one of the most mind numbing shows i have ever seen. My younger sister used to watch it as a baby. She was basically raised by the television, sadly.

"I also don't want him to watch any channels with adverts on as they just feed children ideas of things they want to acquire - latest toys etc. "
funny you mention that,
here is a Great documentary you should check out!

Summary : Consuming Kids throws desperately needed light on the practices of a relentless multi-billion dollar marketing machine that now sells kids and their parents everything from junk food and violent video games to bogus educational products and the family car. Drawing on the insights of health care professionals, children’s advocates, and industry insiders, the film focuses on the explosive growth of child marketing in the wake of deregulation, showing how youth marketers have used the latest advances in psychology, anthropology, and neuroscience to transform American children into one of the most powerful and profitable consumer demographics in the world. Consuming Kids pushes back against the wholesale commercialization of childhood, raising urgent questions about the ethics of children’s marketing and its impact on the health and well-being of kids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uUU7cjfcdM

An absolutely brilliant read in relation to these issues is Sue Palmer's 'Toxic Childhood' - she's amazing. I attended an all day seminar of hers at Cambridge University a couple of months ago and it was fascinating. She's got a few other parenting books out too - 'Raising 20th Century Boys' and 'Raising 20th Century Girls' - she covers so many important issues in a wonderful non-judgmental way. x

 

[lisaf]

okay here is one from NOT sourced from wikipedia, okay? it goes into further detail

https://www.wellcome.ac.uk/News/Media-office/Press-releases/2009/WTX056618.htm

i can seriously go on but i highly recommend you just do the research on your own.

Plus, what do ya'll think about the seeminly harmless pokemon episode?

freaky ain't it?

Peace & love to you all

Again, I don't trust the media to explain a study accurately, they tend to go for some generalizing and draw solid conclusions when the data shows a slight possibly statistically insignificant trend.
That study was of 50 people (way too small of a pool to be reliable), and the article gave no mention of the percentages, just said they answered 'most accurately'.
What were the controls? Did they have people watch the same videos without subliminals and compare the results?


As for Pokemon, I think its always been known that certain flashes of light can cause seizures. I don't think it was intentional, I think it was just bad luck from the style that the animators chose. (I remember when BnB just did this style change, the colors were giving some people headaches... it gave me a headache on my home computer but not at work... just the way the colors appeared on my screen affected me... that was not intentional, subversive, or evil, it was just a poor color combination chosen that wasn't tested on enough different screens for compatibility).

 

[ashley2pink]

Fighting over tv? All I can say is my husband never watched tv when he was young, I watched quite a bit. Poor husband don't mean to bash you on here, but I am way smarter than him!!
Plus, a good memory I have is of me and my siblings calling ''that's mine!'' when a commercial came on. Whoever called it out first got whatever was on the commercial. Obviously not really, but it was fun. Simple minds!
A lot of my nostalgia is from tv shows. I have bought many seasons and they bring me back. It's a nice feeling

 

[MommaCat]

okay here is one from NOT sourced from wikipedia, okay? it goes into further detail

https://www.wellcome.ac.uk/News/Media-office/Press-releases/2009/WTX056618.htm

i can seriously go on but i highly recommend you just do the research on your own.

Plus, what do ya'll think about the seeminly harmless pokemon episode?

freaky ain't it?

Peace & love to you all

Again, I don't trust the media to explain a study accurately, they tend to go for some generalizing and draw solid conclusions when the data shows a slight possibly statistically insignificant trend.
That study was of 50 people (way too small of a pool to be reliable), and the article gave no mention of the percentages, just said they answered 'most accurately'.
What were the controls? Did they have people watch the same videos without subliminals and compare the results?

Why don't you do some research of your own instead of requesting that i spoon feed it to you? I still seem to be the only one providing links to any type of articles or studies at all. If anything, I should be asking YOU all to provide evidence ME, that:

1) subliminal messaging has zero affect what so ever on the subconscious mind or decision making

2) activitiy in the neo cortex does not shut off during television viewing. nor does the brain begin to produce alpha waves. As a reminder to you all, alpha waves are present during the "light hypnotic" state used by hypno-therapists for suggestion therapy.

3) even casual television viewers experience opiate-withdrawal symptoms if they stop watching TV for a prolonged period of time

4) the television has no impact what-so-ever on a child's brain development
(please read this)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-david-perlmutter-md/television-and-the-develo_b_786934.html

I'm sorry. i am not a television. i do not just spoon feed information, and i certaintly do not do it after putting you into a hypnotic trance. i highly encourage you to read as many books, articles, and such on this subject, as it is very controversial and we can litteraly spend days covering all the aspects. Please, please please do your own research.

take care
xxx

 

[mummy2be...]

^^ you truly believe tour better than everyone else in here don't you!

 

[lisaf]

Sorry for the comparison Mommacat, but I feel like you're asking us to prove that Aliens DONT exist.

 

[MommaCat]

[/QUOTE]

An absolutely brilliant read in relation to these issues is Sue Palmer's 'Toxic Childhood' - she's amazing. I attended an all day seminar of hers at Cambridge University a couple of months ago and it was fascinating. She's got a few other parenting books out too - 'Raising 20th Century Boys' and 'Raising 20th Century Girls' - she covers so many important issues in a wonderful non-judgmental way. x[/QUOTE]

will check that out, thanks. Finally, someone providing me with something to read, rather than just opinion.

quick note: bringing up how you enjoyed watching television as a child and how it makes u feel all nostalgic inside is still no valid arguement to the points i am making. In my eyes it is still a form of opinion. That's like getting all warm and fuzzy inside when you think about all the great laughs you had while taking cocaine. (tv watching obvs isnt as extreme as doing cocaine, but same concept here) Doesn't make it right. and it still doesn't make all the facts i am providing wrong.

peace

 

[lisaf]

I have to dispute that you are providing any FACTS here... sorry.

 

[MommaCat]

Sorry for the comparison Mommacat, but I feel like you're asking us to prove that Aliens DONT exist.

exactly. you are finding it impossible to prove me wrong. All your counter arguements are opinion based, while mine are fact based.



"The most important thing is to never stop questioning" Albert Einstien

 

[lisaf]

Sorry for the comparison Mommacat, but I feel like you're asking us to prove that Aliens DONT exist.

exactly. you are finding it impossible to prove me wrong. All your counter arguements are opinion based, while mine are fact based.



"The most important thing is to never stop questioning" Albert Einstien

1) I am not trying to convince you of anything. You are the one coming in here and making claims.
2) Your claims are not supported by facts, just because you call them that does not make them facts. They are THEORIES. And they are supported by vague evidence, opinion, and illogical conclusions.

I refuse to see how a word I don't even have time to read can somehow be comprehended by my brain. If that were true, I would never have to read a book, I could just flash the pages in front of my eyes briefly and then know everything in the book.

I also know that being hypnotized does not put you under some mysterious control like they show in the movies. A hypnotist cannot make you do something you do not want to do... even if I accepted your theory that TV hypnotizes you, and accepted your theory that my brain can comprehend messages faster than I can even perceive what is being shown, I still don't see how I should care if its telling me to have sex or drink coke... it will not make me have sex if I don't want to and won't make me drink coke if I'm not thirsty or hate coke.

 

[whit.]

I find this whole ordeal to be kind of contradicting and a little hypocritical.

 

[lisaf]

I find this whole ordeal to be kind of contradicting and a little hypocritical.

I don't believe TV and the constant changing of images is good for a young child's developing brain. I think their minds need extra time to comprehend and process what they are seeing and do better with static images.

That doesn't mean I sign on to the whole conspiracy theory that TV is evil and out to control our minds.

 

[MommaCat]

you're right. The problem with my child is that she does not get enough programming. She does not see enough junk food or barbie doll advertisements. she does not fixate her eyes for at least an hour a day (minimum) at a bright screen while her mouth hangs open and drool drips down her chin. She does not watch teletubbies or cheebies and therefore i am keeping her in a bubble. I am not allowing her to be her own individual person. Learning from nature and books is boring. I must go out immediately and buy her a television. It is the only way she can be saved....................

 

[Babushka99]

Ok so those who will not let their baby watch tv does that mean as a child they don't get to watch tv as well?????

 

[lisaf]

I do NOT think TV is essential to a child's life.

But I don't think its an evil that must be banned or that a little TV will turn my child into a drooling zombie!!!!

I do think when they are older and interacting with other children they may find it a little hard to relate. But that may not be a big worry for you and isn't a reason to make sure they have tv.

Nobody here is trying to tell you what to do. You seem to be telling all of us that our children are being poisoned by a little TV.

 

[lisaf]

I won't let my baby watch TV... when he is a child (age 2+) I will allow limited educational programming.

 

[Gemie]

you're right. The problem with my child is that she does not get enough programming. She does not see enough junk food or barbie doll advertisements. she does not fixate her eyes for at least an hour a day (minimum) at a bright screen while her mouth hangs open and drool drips down her chin. She does not watch teletubbies or cheebies and therefore i am keeping her in a bubble. I am not allowing her to be her own individual person. Learning from nature and books is boring. I must go out immediately and buy her a television. It is the only way she can be saved....................

I think you need to find the middle ground... that's the key.

 

[whit.]

I find this whole ordeal to be kind of contradicting and a little hypocritical.

I don't believe TV and the constant changing of images is good for a young child's developing brain. I think their minds need extra time to comprehend and process what they are seeing and do better with static images.

That doesn't mean I sign on to the whole conspiracy theory that TV is evil and out to control our minds.

No no, I wasn't talking about you. I agree with everything you've said.

More along the lines of her saying the tv is trying to pretty much brain wash us into believing certain things yet she keeps posting the same things pretty much, over and over, trying to get us to believe something.

And, the hypocritical thing is - she has no tv but the internet is ok?

 

[Louppey]

you're right. The problem with my child is that she does not get enough programming. She does not see enough junk food or barbie doll advertisements. she does not fixate her eyes for at least an hour a day (minimum) at a bright screen while her mouth hangs open and drool drips down her chin. She does not watch teletubbies or cheebies and therefore i am keeping her in a bubble. I am not allowing her to be her own individual person. Learning from nature and books is boring. I must go out immediately and buy her a television. It is the only way she can be saved....................

That is so offensive I can't even believe you've posted it.

My child watches TV, I rarely put kids programs on but the tele is generally on just for background noise.

Coralie rarely pays any attention to it, unless a song she likes comes on (I have music tv on) and then she dances I have never seen her staring at a bright screen with her mouth hung open with drool coming down her chin.

Having an opinion is fine, making random insults is not. Do not force your narrow minded opinions on people & poke fun at people who ignore them