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[banana07]

Dam it just typed and lots it here it goes again!!

Mama - It soooo good to hear from you again. Sorry you were having such a crappy time of it, I was checking out your chart and seen that you hadn't Ov and presumed that was why, you had been so hopefully the previous cycle that things were working out. I am delighted you are getting your referral now, we are hoping to get ours at the next consultant apt on 13th August. Like you we had to choose between two clinics prices and success rates are pretty much the same, we have abut 10 clinics here in Ireland but these seem to be the best reviews wise. I think I'll go with the further away one. They seemed fairly confident they could do loads of testing during the initial consultation where the other wasn't too sure what would be done. The near one is still 2 hours away the far one is 3 hours (and a better road!). Again same as you all my best friends are pregnant, dunno if you were reading but yeah I was pretty low. She knew how upset I was about 1st BF being pregnant so she was afraid to tell me she is nearly 5 months now and told me 2 weeks ago, I was due to meet her and she had a bump so she had to tell me, then found out another friend we were meeting at the same time is also pregnant, these two were pregnant all last year together, I was hard enough meeting the two of them with their bumps then, no way I could do it now, so cancelled meeting them and avoiding them like the plague now! Can't believe they are on their second pregnancy in the same time I have been trying for just 1. So frustrating

I think the consultant has done all she can do, ruled out PCOS, blocked tubes, made me def Ov in clomid, day 21 bloods, and 2 SA. Am hoping to be sitting in the fertility clinic by the end of August / Early Setpember and get the ball rolling asap. I have pretty much come to terms with the fact we will need the IVF/ICSI so I've stopped spending any money which I normally would to save the pennies!

CD 9 for me now just waiting to Ov could be anything from CD14 - CD18! Will start using OPKs tomorrow as these new ones give you a presurge as well as the main surge before Ov so should be able to tell me up to 4 days prior to OV.


Happy - Have you had your test results yet - FX for good news for you. Any more signs of OV?

 

[MamaMac123]

Thanks girls

Happy - I think I've heard of that before. Having cysts but not necessarily pcos. I'd think it would mean the cysts are present but you don't have the other symptoms like the weight gain, weird hair growth, insulin resistance etc. hopefully the docs can tell you more!

Banana - it totally sucks when everyone around you is pregnant. My friend told me right away but knew how hard is take it. She's basically telling me to love vicariously through her and feel free to permanently attach my hand to her belly! Haha it's sweet of her but of course not at all the same. Which she knows. It's hard. Try to maintain your friendships. I had a friend and she and I were dating guys at the same time and planning weddings. She ended up marrying the guy but my guy ended up breaking my heart big time. For months I avoided her and wouldn't talk to her etc simply because it was too hard to hear all about their wedding and how wonderful her guy was. Now years later I'm married to my sweetheart and very happy but my friendship with her is basically nothing more than the occasional Facebook post. I let my depression consume me and wasn't there for her as a friend during an important event in her life and we've never come back from it. It's hard Hun, I know. That's what we're here for! Try to keep your friendships enact even though its hard.

Talked to my doc office and the referrals is in the works! Should be sent to the fertility office in next few days then I can call to schedule! They said it may be a couple months before I get in to see then but in very happy something is happening!

 

[HappyCpl]

Well ladies, looks like this is an anov cycle for me. My follie hasn't changed. Will wait a week, take a test in case there is a miracle? And if neg will take Provera. Dr bumped me up to 100mg of Clomid. Fun times. Feeling down at the moment but still hopeful.

Banana and Mama I'm sorry y'all are having a difficult time with your friends being prego. I understand how you feel though. Prayers for you ladies and you consults!

 

[HappyCpl]

Ok I'm completely confused. I just went to the bathroom and there was TONS of EWCM. Neither of my ovaries looked like I was about to OV... I don't understand why I'm havin EWCM and my cervix is high, soft, and open just like when I'm about to OV... I guess I'm going to watch my temps and if it looks like I "ovulate" I may wait on AF to show before I take the Provera.

 

[elt1013]

Sounds like you better get to bding girl! Maybe just a delayed o this time. I had a couple of those. Good luck!!

 

[banana07]

Hey Girls

Mama - Thanks for your post it really hit home about relationships breaking now unnecessarily. I think I'm going to text my friend this afternoon and tell her, I'm sorry I wasn't more excited for her, I'm sure she knows I was lying with my reasons for not meeting them last week, esp since they would have announced to each other they were preg I'm sure at that stage they would have both realised why I wasn't there.

Happy - your temp has taken a little jump - fx it goes up again tomorrow plus with the ewcm, I think Elt is right you need to get bding!!. Is it the next cycle you are taking the 100mg of clomid?

Elt - How are you getting on - over 1/2 way there now wow!!!

Issac - How are you getting on ?? Where are you in your cycle??

Afm, I emailed one of the fertility clinics yesterday to ask if I had to be refered by a consultant (who would cost me €150 / £120 / $180 just for the pleasure of telling me she was referring me or if my GP could do it - who would be free. They emailed back that they are a private clinic so I don't need referral from anyone and send me the registration form so I'm going to be almost 2 cycles ahead of what I would have been.

The old time line was - Cycle 15 starting on 1st August - Consultant visit on 13th August - End of August by the time she sends of referral letters and they contact me to make an apt - Cycle 16 starting 1st September - Mid - End of September when appointment is available. Very earliest treatment could start is Cycle 17 starting 1st October.

The new timeline is - Send registration form off now to make apt for end of this cycle - Cycle 15 starting 1st August - Fertility clinic conulstation 1st week in August. Hopefully starting the most suitable treatment in Cycle 16 starting 1st September!

Also, had a neg opk yesterday morning but had really bad cramps last night so took one just before bed and to my surprise I had a flashing smiley face. I am using the dual surge digis which track the rise in estrogen before the LH surge. so the flashing smiley face means you are at high fertility and then the usual solid one means the LH surge has been detected and you are at peak fertility so gives you 4 days of positives instead of the ususal 2 which I suppose makes sense since sperm can live for 3-5 days plus gives more time to be prepared, DH had just dosed off asleep when I read the result last night, if it had been a solid smiley I would have panicked and had to wake him up as he was going very early this morning but thankfully because it was only a flashing one, I told him this morning so we both know we are doing it tonight. Also had a tiny bit of ewcm this morning just a tiny bit. I'm only CD11 tho - very strange!!! Then again I have read about people having flashing smileys for anything up to 6-8 days!!!! The usual is about 2 tho. He was flashing again this morning.

So my bding plan is

Tuesday afternoon (done0
Thursday night
Saturday Morning
Sunday afternoon

or whenever I get a solid smiley we will do it for that day and next day. Will see how it goes. This is our last cycle before the fertility clinic then we will have one more cycle probably before any treatment i.e IVF or something starts.

Wow - Rant over!!!

 

[HappyCpl]

This cycle was Clomid free. Next cycle we go up to 100mg. I think my body is trying, but
I really don't see it happening. I didn't have any follicles close enough to OV on my ultrasound.

Banana good luck with the clinic appointment. That's awesome you were able to get in without the referral.

Elt and runner how are you ladies coming along?

 

[banana07]

Ok so a little bit confused. As I said in previous post I had flashing smiley for the last 2 days. I'm CD12 now and this morning noticed I had the old digi kit as well as the new advanced one so of course I peed on both of them. The older one came up negative so I presumed the advanced one would come up flashing again but no it was solid. Now I'm very confused, CD12 is so early and if I hadn't bought the advanced ones I would still be on a negative Opk. So pretty much

CD10 @ 9.30am - Negative
CD10@ 11.30pm - Flashing
CD11 @ 8.30am - Flashing
CD11@ 10.30pm - Flashing (Bd'd)
CD12 @ 10am - Solid on Advanced & Negative on regular digi

What do you ye think, am I about to Ov?? Which is more correct?? Why is it so early?? Its been 2 days early every month since I started clomid! in 4 months I've went from pos opk on CD18 to CD12!!

Happy - Your temp seems to have stayed up this morning. Are you using OPKs???

 

[HappyCpl]

Banana my experience with the standard digits was that it would be negative but a regular OPK would be a blaring positive. Honey, just start BD'ing! Haha

I am not using OPK's as this month we were really just trying to take a break until the dr decided on the HCG injection which I ended up not getting. I'm really wondering about my chart... On CD14 and 15 I had borderline creamy/watery CM but because of my ultrasound, I put it as creamy. Looking at my chart, could it be possible that I ovulated then?

 

[banana07]

I dunno Happy You did have your usual temp dip on CD15 along with the watery cm, but your temps really don't indicate ov. Maybe you geared up to do it. If your temp stays up another day or two you should get crosshairs I think maybe????

Yeah going doing lots of baby dancing now over the weekend!

Hopefully the regular digi will give me a solid line tonight or tomorrow and that will explain everything that maybe the advanced one is just more sensitive! Can't believe I'm only CD12 tho so early for me!

 

[banana07]

Oh dear lord the confusion just deepens even tho thought it would become clearer! Just home drom work fully expecting a solid smiley on both kits or at least still on the advanced but no I think I might have had a false positive as when I came home it was still stuck on the solid smiley I read a post earlier where a girl had the same problem and clear blue had replace the product for her. But I had an unopened packet that amazon sent me by accident so opened it and used the New monitor test stick holder thingy. Regular digi came back negative and advanced negative too. So now Im really really confused?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[banana07]

Two negative this morning with fmu. How can it go drom flashing to blank? Really really bad cramps this morning too.

 

[HappyCpl]

Banana, is there any way you can get ahold of a regular OPK? I know you ordered those offline. I will not buy the digital ones again. Esp after my exp and now yours.

 

[banana07]

Oh I could but I've spent so much on these bloody ones. Its still quite early I think I'm just going to keep testing twice a day the flashing smileys only indicate high estrogen which comes before your LH surge but I'm sure there are other reasons I could have higher then normal estrogen maybe. The solid smiley was def a false positive. So as far as I am concerned I haven't got a positive yet feck the flashing ones.

I'm still only CD13 so will continue on testing Bd 3 days ago, yesterday, today and going for it again tomorrow eve and every day or second day until I get my crosshairs.

Stupid opks always panic me or confuse me!!!

You got your crosshairs - I knew one or two more temp rises would give it to you. Did you do enough Bding do you think??? Its not too late you used to ov quite late before you took clomid didn't you ??? Delighted for you If I do ov soon we won't be a million miles apart in our cycles! We were matching for a while then ended up totally different!!

 

[banana07]

Two more negatives again on both standard digi and advanced didi - CD13 @ 9pm

 

[elt1013]

Digis were NEVER positive for me, and I obviously ovulated! They were always a waste of money for me!

 

[banana07]

Ha fertility friend just put me at ov on cd11! I dunno a bit unlikely but then again I did have the flashing smiley fairly consistently den nothing since. Cd 11 who weird!!

 

[banana07]

Yeah am starting to hear some very bad stories about the digI ones I think when I ring them Monday to complain about the two faulty ones I got and if they offer to send out New ones ill ask for regular digi. But in saying that i used the regular digi ones for months last year and got a smiley face every single month???

 

[banana07]

Oh dear I seem to have taken over this thread over the weekend with my annoying and confusing opks!!! Hope no one minds its just so confusing and frustrating and it getting worse! As it turns out my positive on the advanced was not negative as I read on the clearblue website that if you get a flashing smiley it will disappear after 8mins but if you get a solid one it will stay on the screen for 48hours so you cannot test again. Of course I checked after that which was exactly 48hours and it was gone. Stick is working perfectly again now. But Now I have

CD10 - am - Negative on Advanced
CD10 - pm - Flashing on Advanced
CD11 - am - Flashing on Advanced
CD11 - pm - Flashing on Advanced
CD12 - am - Solid on Advanced & Negative on Standard Digi
CD12 - pm - (solid smiley remained so I thought it was broke so opened a new advanced kit 2). Negative on Advanced 2 & Negative on Standard Digi
CD13 - am - Negative on both advanced & Digi
CD13 - pm - Negative on both advanced & Digi
CD14 - am - Negative on both advanced & Digi
CD14 - pm - Flashing on Advanced & Negative on standard digi
CD15 - am - Flashing on Advanced & Solid on standard digi

FF had given me crosshairs for CD11 - which I really thought was off but when I put what I now know wasn't a false positive on the advanced digi as positive on CD12 it took them away.

I worked ahead last night and if my temps had stayed up for the next 3 days it would give me crosshairs for CD12 which would have made more sense.

But of course that would be to straight forward had a huge temp dip this morning 36.1/ 97.07 checked it 3 times and was the same everytime. And the positive OPK this morning...


I think we are covered for bding either way and I know that's what matters but its just so frustrating. Maybe I'm not going to Ov at all this month and I Just keep gearing up to but the follies aren't mature enough? I did take clomid this month but it wasn't as effective last month as it was the 1st month progesterone went from 150 - 80 on the same dose so maybe its even less this month. I have read a lot of things about clomid stopping working or becoming less effective as the cycle goes on hence why people have to up their dose. I think Mama had the same problem.

Sorry for the long rant but as I said super frustrated!

How is everyone else this morning??

 

[banana07]

Ok with the new opk results if my temp rises for the next 3 days and based on the big dip I had this morning - it will give me crosshairs for today CD15. We have done it the last 2 days. But.... my bad cramps have gone, they were really bad CD12ish, still have faint cramps but nothing as bad as usual and last week????

Best just keep bding!!