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[IsaacRalph]

I know Mel I want to be bump buds again too! Yes party this time next week - fingers crossed the weather behaves, or at least doesn't rain all day! When is H's?

Sweatpea - you have def got your bases covered with the BD! I haven't done it as much as you as DH was out during ov time (typical!) but there's always next month!! Good luck!

Mama - how frustrating, I would be annoyed about the scan too but hopefully the next 2 weeks will fly by and that its good news. Hope AF arrives soon too. I remember being so frustrated having no AF for weeks after I stopped BC - think it was 13 weeks, ended up drinking raspberry tea and taking vitex and I got there. I was worried too though.
Its so stressful not knowing whats going on inside you isn't it?

Issacralph -hope you are having a good weekend, not long till the dreaded witch

I REALLY hope tomorrow I finally get crosshairs! As long as these temps stay up. Once I get it I might stop temping, I don't think I can cope with a 2 ww monitoring it all. I know you only do the fertile week don't you IssacRalph? I have the blood test next week so if there's a problem I'll find out from that anyway.

Sorry girls been at work this evening so I need to catch up on here! yes I only chart for about a week, I've been charting since Isaac was born to prevent pregnancy mainly but obviously using it to help now. I really can't be bothered to get Hung up on it, I start around cd 8, then start opk's at 10, then stop once ovulation is confirmed! I may do the odd temp towards my period to see if its coming down. think i'll come on later tomorrow or Mon but maybe even tues, sometimes I have 16 day LP which is a bit annoying.
I'd love to be bump buddies with all of you ladies Xx come on you cross hairs

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hann, sounds like you're on the ball with everything. Hope you get your crosshairs!

Went for my ultrasound this morning. Naturally and as expected te ultrasound tech told me nothing! I had hoped they'd at least let me look at the stupid monitor but nope. So now I'm stuck waiting till the 31st till I see my doc. :sigh:

Hubby and I dtd yesterday and after I had quite a bit of bleeding, much more that the previous spotting. I got all excited thinking the Vitex was getting my AF going finally, but by the time we went to bed last night it had stopped and so far nothin today. Ugh! Seriously this evil devil of a cycle will NEVER end!!! feeling so deflated and frustrated right now

Hey hun good luck with those results really routing for you! Come in AF, maybe we'll get ours at the same time?? X

 

[IsaacRalph]

Urgh I've got my pre period headache present! Yuk Yuk pants

 

[Hann12]

IsaacRalph - did AF arrive? Hope so! ( feels funny saying that as normally we hate the witch but as we know it's coming...)

Well I got Crosshairs big yippee!! Very excited! It says I ov on the 15th, I think it was either late 14th or early 15th as my temp started to rise on 15th. I haven't maximised my chances this month because we didn't DTD on the day before or day of ov because DH was out with work. Next cycle, now I know when I ov, I am telling him he can't go out for those 4 days lol! I know we still have a chance this month but always plan for the next to avoid disappointment! I think the soy brought my ov forward by 3/4 days, I just hope my LP is longer too as a result! FX!!
So I am officially 3DPO!

 

[Hann12]

Okay seriously I have to stop posting positive posts because every time I do it something bad happens after - just been to the toilet and got a big amount of EWCM tinged with blood. So that's pretty confusing! If i'be ov I shouldn't have EWCM and what's with the blood again? Right going to continue DTD, testing opk and temping for next few days. I really hope I have ov, if I haven't then soy has done nothing except cause mid cycle bleeding!!
I'm going to move my blood test to fri (was weds) as I have ov slightly later anyway.
What on earth is going on?!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Okay seriously I have to stop posting positive posts because every time I do it something bad happens after - just been to the toilet and got a big amount of EWCM tinged with blood. So that's pretty confusing! If i'be ov I shouldn't have EWCM and what's with the blood again? Right going to continue DTD, testing opk and temping for next few days. I really hope I have ov, if I haven't then soy has done nothing except cause mid cycle bleeding!!
I'm going to move my blood test to fri (was weds) as I have ov slightly later anyway.
What on earth is going on?!

Oh no what's going on in your camp, more spotting? You had sex recently, which could account for what looks Like ewcm?? I think you should keep your blood test for wed hun as if you've ovulated few days ago the levels on wed will be fine, I think at least you'll find out if you ovulated when ff said! No period for me yet, I usually have annoying headache for a day or so before AF but temps are rapidly dropping so it won't be long, I just Feel rubbish & got lots to do today, urgghhh!

 

[Hann12]

It was def EWCM not sperm, not DTD since Fri. I read soy can cause spotting so guess that answers that. Will just keep on charting etc. so annoyed at uncertainty

 

[melissasbump]

Oh Hann, the uncertainty must be so annoying you must be looing forward to your blood tests. Im sure all is ok though.

IssacRalph, sorry you are feeling rubbish, hope the headaches clear soon and you can get on with things.

Well AFM, Did OPK this morning expecting a nice dark line, however it was really faint, probably fainter than yesterday which confuses me? I still dont think ive OV'd yet though, however we have technically covered ourseves by DTD for the last four days anyway. Today, ive got these mild cramps down in my lower stomach to either side, not sure what that is..

 

[Hann12]

Mel you could have missed your surge then be getting ovulation pain. I'd keep testing the opk though just to be sure. If you don't get BFP this cycle then do a week of temping as that might help clarify.

Still seething that I was so excited by my crosshairs and raised temps - my chart really looks like I should have ov last week, only to get this mystery EWCM. The only other thing I can think of is that soy causes more estrogen so unless I now have too much and that's causing the EWCM and spotting. I read we all get a second spike of estrogen around 6dpo but some get it early. It's possible it's that.
Or I haven't ov yet!!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Mel you could have missed your surge then be getting ovulation pain. I'd keep testing the opk though just to be sure. If you don't get BFP this cycle then do a week of temping as that might help clarify.

Still seething that I was so excited by my crosshairs and raised temps - my chart really looks like I should have ov last week, only to get this mystery EWCM. The only other thing I can think of is that soy causes more estrogen so unless I now have too much and that's causing the EWCM and spotting. I read we all get a second spike of estrogen around 6dpo but some get it early. It's possible it's that.
Or I haven't ov yet!!

hey I get another day of ewcm around cd 9/10 so I suppose it could be second estrogen surge, and the fact your taking soy could alter things! Its horrible for you as its just so much uncertainty to think about

 

[IsaacRalph]

Oh Hann, the uncertainty must be so annoying you must be looing forward to your blood tests. Im sure all is ok though.

IssacRalph, sorry you are feeling rubbish, hope the headaches clear soon and you can get on with things.

Well AFM, Did OPK this morning expecting a nice dark line, however it was really faint, probably fainter than yesterday which confuses me? I still dont think ive OV'd yet though, however we have technically covered ourseves by DTD for the last four days anyway. Today, ive got these mild cramps down in my lower stomach to either side, not sure what that is..

Well thanks hun! I'll tell you I always start having kinda stretching pain on both sides a few days before I ovulate. Hopefully you'll get you +opk soon Xx

 

[elt1013]

Oh Hann, the uncertainty must be so annoying you must be looing forward to your blood tests. Im sure all is ok though.

IssacRalph, sorry you are feeling rubbish, hope the headaches clear soon and you can get on with things.

Well AFM, Did OPK this morning expecting a nice dark line, however it was really faint, probably fainter than yesterday which confuses me? I still dont think ive OV'd yet though, however we have technically covered ourseves by DTD for the last four days anyway. Today, ive got these mild cramps down in my lower stomach to either side, not sure what that is..

I had that happen to me this month also. Keep testing....I ended up having to do like 3 a day this cycle near O because it kept getting lighter, then darker, (back and forth) until finally positive. I have also found that mine tend to be darker later in the day for some reason? Good luck!!

 

[Hann12]

Been doing some research and I should never have taken the soy, I think its basically made my body produce too much estrogen and I don't have the progesterone to balance it so I'm getting the spotting. The likelihood is that I won't even ovulate this month and if I have a pregnancy couldn't sustain as the lining is shredding. Obviously that will be confirmed in the blood test but I'm pretty sure thats whats happening. Feeling pretty upset and sad. I hope its only affected one cycle and I'll be okay next cycle. Guess its best never to mess with these things?!
Spotting stopped all day until about an hour ago, and is now worse. I read it will probably continue until AF is due. Basically too much estrogen causes the lining to shred early.
How depressing to have most probably ruined a cycle. Can only hope its just the one and I haven't caused longer term damage.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Been doing some research and I should never have taken the soy, I think its basically made my body produce too much estrogen and I don't have the progesterone to balance it so I'm getting the spotting. The likelihood is that I won't even ovulate this month and if I have a pregnancy couldn't sustain as the lining is shredding. Obviously that will be confirmed in the blood test but I'm pretty sure thats whats happening. Feeling pretty upset and sad. I hope its only affected one cycle and I'll be okay next cycle. Guess its best never to mess with these things?!
Spotting stopped all day until about an hour ago, and is now worse. I read it will probably continue until AF is due. Basically too much estrogen causes the lining to shred early.
How depressing to have most probably ruined a cycle. Can only hope its just the one and I haven't caused longer term damage.

Aww hun try not to be too upset! I never tool it so don't know too much on it but it sounds like you know your stuff on it now. So have you stopped taking it now or do you take it on certain days?? You had an 11 day LP didn't last month right? Is it 10 or below they worry about, wish I could give you 2 of mine! What's the bleeding like? Also I'm pretty sure if you've not been successful this month it won't affect your cycle in the ling term. That's why I'm hesitant to try anything again although when I got pg with son I took evening primrose but i'm sure it delayed ovulation a few months back so won't take it again! Keep ya chin up x period still not here I Feel like my womb is gonna fall out at any minute, ouch!

 

[Hann12]

Thanks, it helps being able to come on and get support from you all. I don't know for sure if that's what's happened, it's an educated guess. I googled it and loads of people seem to have had spotting at 3dpo. I'll just have to wait it out and see what the tests reveal. Just had a cry to my DH, he was really sweet, that helped.

Hope AF comes soon for you

 

[IsaacRalph]

Well its cd1 for me girls, thank you god! 29 day cycle much natter than 39 like it used to be. Hope everyone's ok

 

[Hann12]

Well its cd1 for me girls, thank you god! 29 day cycle much natter than 39 like it used to be. Hope everyone's ok

Yay that's great news! I think mine will be more like 39 this month than 29 it was last month! No more bleeding this morning and DTD last night and it didn't dislodge any more but who knows! I don't think I will ov this month, I know my temps look like I did but think they are wrong. I woke at 5.30 this morning (15 mins earlier) and temped and my temp was 36.49 which is almost the lowest it has been. I went back to sleep (didn't drink, move or talk) and did it again when I woke and it was 36.8. I'm guessing I should pay attention to the lower temp though, in which case no ovulation. I'll have it confirmed in the blood work. I'm sure it's the soy. Grrrr
Just wanted to get rid of this cycle and start again, could kick myself for messing with things!!

 

[melissasbump]

Well its cd1 for me girls, thank you god! 29 day cycle much natter than 39 like it used to be. Hope everyone's ok

Yay now you can move on!

Hann, oh hun, i understand how you must feel and bless Greg for being so reassuring, as you know im far from the expert on any of this (im always asking you for advice lol) but i really think that its very doubtful that you have messed yourself up or done any damage, i know how much you want this as we are both in the same boat there, just try any think positve and im sure all will be fine and that BFP will come before you know it!:
AFM I was on lates at work last night, and all evening, felt crampy, lower backache, bloating and err.. "damp" down there and when i went to toilet there was always EWCM, so here me really thinking its OV time then when i get home and take a test its a barely there line, if that, so mega confused! We DTD anyway though lol, whatever is happening to my body we are certainly going all out this month so cant say we havent tried.

 

[MamaMac123]

Isaac - yay for a new cycle! Fresh start! Totally jealous lol but way happy for you! Go get that this month!!!

Mel - nice work on the BDing :hehe: DH and I have kept it really often as my cycle is so put of whack and if I ever actually ov we don't want to risk missing it. best way to cover all the bases.

Hann - I'm sorry you're so frustrated hun. I've done a lot of research and talked to a lot of people on here about soy and other herbal fertility stuff like the Vitex I'm now taking. What everyone has told me is only to take this stuff if your cycle is already totally messed up. If you have a more normal cycle it can just mess things up. But you only took it the one cycle. I bet next cycle you'll be fine. If you're ov and getting AF on your own and cycle isn't stupidly long then I wouldn't mess to much with herbs. If you're pretty regular your hormone levels must be pretty normal and so you don't want to mess with them. Maybe try some of the other/non hormonal tricks for next month like using Preseed or the soft cups etc. As for this month, you may still have ov just fine. You're not out yet babe! Hang in there and look forward to your blood work We're here for ya!

As for me, I had some increased sex drive this weekend and yesterday I had a bunch of Ewcm. But of course is just gone to the bathroom and couldn't do an opk! Errr just wasn't expecting it! So I waited an hour and then took one. Got a faint line but as it had only been an hour I think my urine was more diluted than usual plus it was like 9 pm. Thi morning I'm having some weird cramping. Hoping maybe it's ov pain (not sure if I have that or not as I never chart etc before now) or at least that AF is coming. Still just waiting for something to happen! I have noticed with my temps, I started temping at 5 am instead of 6 and have made sure I dont get up to use the bathroom before temping and sinc then my temps have stuck right around the same each day. Much less erratic than they've been all cycle. Could be from the Vitex or my temping change or both, but I take it as a positive sign.

 

[Hann12]

Thanks guys - so i posted on a thread that has soy takers on it, some one came back and said that they had spotting with soy but ovulated, so maybe it might be okay this month. I can only hope! I am continue to BD, opk and temp just in case. Someone else said that the sip in the temps today - 5dpo could be an implantation dip, guess I'll see tomorrow if the temps rise again. I thought 5dpo is too early but maybe not for some. I am not feeling like it will be though. I think this month is a write off but I'll just sit it out and see. One things for sure - no more soy for me!!

Mamamac - hopefully this is the start of things for you. I really hope so! I think your plan on temping is sensible, I'm def going to temp at the same time next cycle. My temps are completely erratic this month.

Mel - you may have already had the positive opk yesterday, either way you totally have your bases covered - a whole week of BD plus this week. Your husband is very good, mine def wouldn't do it every day, not that he is in every day! We are now DTD every 2 days until AF. Actually we can't on THursday, Fri or Sat as DHs parents are staying grrr. Then DH is away Monday night. Ah well. Theres always next month - looking forward to a new start!