TTC after Methotrexate shot

[GrkGrl]

Hi-
I recently went through an ectopic with MTX in mid-March. My levels fell to under 10 within 2 weeks luckily, so I started taking Folic Acid again right away.

Mentally, I have good days and bad days. Whenever I hear that one of my friends or co-workers is PG, I am genuinely very happy for them, but then part of me gets really depressed about it too. I hate that.

I did read through majority of these threads though; and it gave me great joy - to the point of tears - to hear that some of you are expecting. Your honesty about MC and CPs are also really helping me re-think our TTC schedule a bit. I cant imagine going through this again.

Anyway, I do have some follow up questions that your threads may have already answered for me, but.. here goes:
I stopped bleeding completely when my numbers hit about 7 (3/27). I was given the ok for sex and excersize at that time (which I did - both). No pain during either. Both activities actually felt great! About a week later (a week ago - 4/6), I started bleeding again. I called the doc and they said to stop sex and excersize until I stopped bleeding and to call them if I soaked a pad or if it happened for longer than 7 days. anyway, neither were the case. But the bleeding was bright red and not heavy, but not as light as the spotting had been towards the end of the MTX. It felt like a period. I asked about that, and she said it could be - but I was doubtful bc it was only the nurse calling (not the doc) and how could I have a P without an O.
Could that have been my P? Is that possible? My levels had just hit 0 earlier that week!

Secondly, I have an appt with my OB/G to discuss TTC again, and talk about that HSG test, etc. Do you think I should also start seeing a RE? I have another child that was conceived with no problem. He is 1. I am just not sure if a RE would do things differently than my OB. I plan to ask my OB when I go in, but wanted to see if you ladies had any feedback on this.
Also.. this is crazy, but I am also considering acupuncture. Is that nuts? I just want to give my body every chance it can at getting PG again. I am almost 35, so I am just feeling like I don't have all the time in the world anymore.

 

[GrkGrl]

Also, If it didn't come out clearly in my above post. I really want to thank you guys for being so honest and supporting in this group. Even though I have only been a lurker (until now), I found it really comforting.

 

[alleysm]

Grkgrl.. ive been through 2 .. the second one was very much different .. i started spotting jan 17 had mtx jan 30 and continued to bleed until feb 10 had a 4 day break and bled from feb 14 until feb 24. Started again march 3 for another 9 days. And again march 29 another cycle (normal). Everyone and everybody and every incident is very dif..ferent. My levels jan 17 were 2400 jan 30 1300 and declined fromm there. I have my numbers noted from bfp to the end if anyone wants to know them for reference.. i hope this helps

 

[patiently]

alleysm i would like to know your hcg results if thats ok...as a reference...xx

 

[alleysm]

Here it all is: some of my dates were off on previous post once i looked at the calendar. Jan 10 bfp 83. Jan 12 -206 ( jan 17 spotting through feb 2) jan 18- 2401. Jan 23 -1188 scan showed nothing in uterus nothing in tubes.( Suspected ectopic due to previous suspected ectopic and tubal reversal in 2010) Jan 26- 1075. Jan 30-1394. Jan 31 mtx. (Full bleed Feb 2 -Feb 9) Feb 3- 1114. Feb 8- 763 (full bleed Feb 14- Feb 20) Feb 14 - 366. Feb 21-162 (started high dose folic acid supplements) Feb 29- 21. (Full bleed Mar 3 - Mar 11) regular cycle March 29. I know this is alot of info and its hard for me to even rehearse. Thesr numbers were the best i had ever had in comparison to my previous two losses. Its been a hard road to healing emotionally... i hope thia helps some of you

 

[resque07]

Well after having two great days and thinking with lower mumbers of 74 this evening the pains in my right side are back. well its not really a pain just very unconfortable hard to explain. anyone else deal with thos feeling and heavy af like cramps. After shot. or am i not suppose to be feeling like this . uhggg im so done with worring

 

[patiently]

Thank you for posting your results. Much appreciated.

Resque07 Im sorry you are feeling pain. Im not sure what it could be, i am sorry i cant be any more help. I hope that your numbers are so low now and maybe you are ovulating so you might get AF in a couple of weeks. Again i am not too sure about how our bodies react after the mtx so dont really know what this pain could be. Good luck hun hope everything works out well.

AFM i really do think i have a urine infection!!! Has this happened to anyone before. I went to my gp yesterday and he tested my urine and said it was negative but i keep needing to go to the bathroom and everytime i do its just a tiny bit, sorry tmi. It also burns. I have had a urine infection before and the same symptoms i had then I am having now. Does anyone know if its ok to take antibiotics for this whilst still going through the ectopic/mtx?

 

[Renzalxx]

Oh you poor luv, I would definitely get back to the doc and on some antibiotics as soon as you can. Dont think it would affect your MTX treatment but best to check with your doc. Drink as much natural cranberry juice you can as well After my MC I ended up in hospital for three days with a terrible kidney infection and it was the WORST pain I have ever experienced in my life. While mine was complications from my d&c, it was just the cherry on top i didnt need after the ectopic and subsequent mc...just remember we are all very sensitive and fragile down there and our immune systems are shot from the mtx so take goOd care of yourself chicky x

Hi Resque, so sorry you are having such a rough time... Most of the ladies here have experienced ongoing cramping and pinching in the tube until well after their first couple of periods. I didn't lose a tube but still had really painful sharp pains and cramping throughout. It is worrisome for sure but it is most likely your body is just healing from the trauma. If it gets too painful, def go see your doc hunny...all the best x

 

[baby_maybe]

Sorry you're having pain resque, as the other lovely ladies have said, if you are worried or you just feel it isn't right then contact your doc or whoever is monitoring you post mtx. I really hope that it is just ov and your body is getting back to normal.

patiently - if you are convinced you have a uti defo go back to the docs and start drinking cranberry juice as renzal suggested. I know someone who is allergic to the anti-bs that they give for uti and she just drinks cranberry every time she feels a uti coming on, does the job every time with no need for medication. Supposedly it has something in it that coats the bladder and stops bacteria attaching itself to it. Hope you get it sorted, its the last thing you need on top of everything else thats going on xx

AFM - Bleeding now completely gone, no pain (I haven't had any the whole time apart from when the took the biopsy), next blood test on tues and really hoping for lower numbers, somewhere around the 100's would be good please body!

 

[patiently]

Renzalxx thank you so much. I went to the pharmacy today and they gave me some sachets that i mix with water to make my urine less acidic to stop the burning pain sorry tmi. I cant bare it! So i really hope that works, she also said that it will not effect the methotrexate so i'm hoping she's right. I just have to take it for two days too. But i will go back to my gp on tuesday as i will be at work all day monday.

Babymaybe

NO MORE BLEEDING!!! WHOOP WHOOP! that is fab! I stopped bleeding too . I hope this means our hcg will be sooo soo so low on tuesday! Come on Numbers drop! I am going to remain optimistic until then for the both of us. My bbs are still slightly tender but no way near as much as how they hurt the other day. Feeling a lot more positive now. Hope you have a wonderful weekend!

 

[baby_maybe]

for you too

I'm glad the pharmacist was so helpful, hopefully those sachets will sort you out until you can get back to the docs.

It would be really great if my numbers are super low on tuesday, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much just in case they aren't!

 

[resque07]

Thanks ladies im too think i may be oing today has been okay just twitches and pinching here and there honestley it feels more like a pulled muscels although thats not what it is. oh yeah and tmi another reason i think i may be oing is because i am having loads of cm fertile lile cm .

 

[baby_maybe]

Glad you're feeling a bit better hunni xx

 

[PreshFest]

My sister was treated with mtx yesterday for an ectopic. How crazy is that?? Both of us in less than a year. We are special lol

 

[Renzalxx]

Glad your feeling better Resque...My ob told me you wont actually ovulate until your numbers get below 5 as your body technically thinks it's still pregnant. So hopefully that is good news for you!

 

[Gwenylovey]

Hi ladies, just popping in to say hello! So great to see that numbers are falling and bleeding is stopping for many of you! That was all definitely the most difficult and stressful part of the process for me, so from here on out you can focus on nurturing your bodies, taking folic acid and preparing for pregnancy

Presh, I can't believe that about your sister, what are the chances!! I'm so sorry for her and hope that she is doing alright despite how stressful and difficult this must all be for her.

 

[patiently]

Presh that is unbelievable what a coincidence i am so sorry for your sister, but maybe you can help and support each other as you have been through what she is going through too.

Babymaybe im still crossing my fingers for both of us...

Erm another quick question...is the first bleed after your hcg have reached 0 a real AF? When some people say to wait for one normal cycle would that first AF type bleed be classed as 1 normal cycle?

 

[baby_maybe]

Presh I'm so sorry about your sister, it's crazy that both of you have had something quite rare happen in a relatively short space of time. Send her some hugs from me xx

patiently - i'm not sure about the bleeding being a normal af. I might ask on Tuesday when I go for bloods. I'm almost sure I will get 3 af's in before ttc so hopefully I'll get at least two that will be normal for me

 

[chig]

I am happy to see that numbers are dropping for those that are going through this!

patiently, I think I had a bleed as soon as my numbers hit 0, and it definitely was not normal by any means. I got my first true AF about 3 weeks later and even that AF was not so normal. It started out with brown spotting for a couple of days before it got red for a few days and back to brown spotting for a few more days. It lasted like 10 days!! I am sure everyone's body is different, so I have my fingers crossed that your body jumps back to normal quicker. I am also hoping that my next cycle (cycle #2) will be a lot more normal. I am going to wait to have four periods before I start trying again, which will be in July. I have a loooonnnggg way to go. I have also started temping to track by bbt and be able to see what my body is doing and see when it is ovulating! It is pretty cool. The plus side to doing this is that you can also figure out the pattern that your body is following and determine the best days for when you are ready to go!!

good luck to all you ladies!

 

[Laubull]

Chig I'm going to start charting my bbt as soon as I get my next AF, after getting to 0 obviously!

It sounds so interesting to think that you can chart when you're ovulating just by measuring a couple of symptoms. I've just read the book 'Taking charge of your fertility', well worth a read.

Roll in AF, I'd never thought I'd say that! X