Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[struth]

Hey ladies - I'm no spring chicken either! I'm 35 - was quite worried when we started TTC about whether we had left it too late. When I had my mc though I made some comment to the nurse specialist about my age and she laughed and seemed surprised that I thought I was old. She said not to worry... just thought I'd pass that on as it made me feel so much better.

Oh and if I ever see another hormonal BCP in my life I think I will - well I don't know what I will do! It has wrecked my cycle

 

[Emmediva]

Hey ladies - I'm no spring chicken either! I'm 35 - was quite worried when we started TTC about whether we had left it too late. When I had my mc though I made some comment to the nurse specialist about my age and she laughed and seemed surprised that I thought I was old. She said not to worry... just thought I'd pass that on as it made me feel so much better.

Oh and if I ever see another hormonal BCP in my life I think I will - well I don't know what I will do! It has wrecked my cycle

I'm happy to hear your nurse thought the age was fine, makes me feel a little better. I keep thinking I missed my chance by waiting so long to leave my husband, I keep beating myself up for all those wasted years.

 

[struth]

Don't honey - I read something yesterday and I think it is relevant to your position. Thought I would share....

"Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending."

I'm sure that you and your BF will make a lovely new ending with a gorgeous LO x

 

[Emmediva]

Don't honey - I read something yesterday and I think it is relevant to your position. Thought I would share....

"Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending."

I'm sure that you and your BF will make a lovely new ending with a gorgeous LO x

Thank you, that quote is very fitting and God willing we will get our little blessing.

 

[Pipskin]

Hi Ladies,
I have been reading this thread for weeks and think you are all so supportive!!!
I have been charting my cycle for 1 month and have decided to start taking vit B50 as it has 50mg of B6, 50 micrograms of vit B12 and 400 micrograms although I am also taking this with my pregnicare tablets too now, I hope this will be ok? My cycle is monthly, I had eggwhite from day 15 to day 19 and a temp shift on day 18. I then had 9 days before spotting began (on day 27) then today (day 30)
I started taking the B50 on day 28 after the spotting started, but my temp has still not dropped!!! Is there anyone else out there with a similar cycle with spotting before bleeding? I could do with some advice if anyone has the time to help! I mean is there anything else I can be doing to help my Luteal phase? I am going back to see the gynecologist in November after 11 months of trying for a baby...

 

[struth]

Hi Pipskin :wave:

I also have spotting before AF. I started off getting it from 7dpo and then AF arriving at 9dpo and I have been taking B50 and pregnacare together for a while now. It doesn't seem to have altered the spotting much (perhaps pushed it back to 8dpo) but my LP seems to lengthened (the cycle before last AF came at 12 dpo).

It is certainly worth a try - however, I would also speak with the gyne about it (which, of course, you will). I have read that it can mean that progesterone is low and hence it would impact on fertility. Having said that - last cycle I did fall pregnant even with spotting from 8dpo (which is obviously a sign that it can happen with spotting) but then had a mmc at 9 weeks. Whether the mc was linked to the spotting/possible low progesterone issue (I haven't had it tested) or not I'm not sure. It is possible but then it could also have been chromosomal issues? Who knows?!

I guess the short message is that the B50 can't do you any harm - you pass anything that your body doesn't need in your urine (hence the neon pee!). GL hon and keep us posted x

 

[Pipskin]

Sorry I meant to say "50 micrograms of vit B12 and 400 micrograms OF FOLIC ACID" Lol...

 

[Pipskin]

Thanks so much struth for such a quick response!!!
I had a really normal cycle until 10 years ago when I had a miscarrage at 11 weeks, I was only 18 at the time so have not started trying again (after now marrying my then boyfriend) until the beginning of this year. Like I say I had a lovely cycle once and over the past 10 years it has got worse and worse, I really hope we are successful. I hope you are too honey! ;-)

 

[Pipskin]

Can anyone recommend a natural progesterone cream???

 

[googly]

Hi Pipskin - welcome! - I have been using a natural "micronized" progesterone cream the last two cycles but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it! My LP has been 7-9 days since we started TTC (8 cycles), and despite full-out using the cream these last two cycles - 1-2 times the daily recommended amount - it didn't make even *1* day's difference to my LP! Grr....

Also been taking homeopathic progesterone tincture and - same thing. No increase whatsoever.

So - I don't know.... I think it's worth trying... it might work for you... but don't invest in it too much until you see how you go! I think prescribed progesterone suppositories (or injections) are really the only truly effective way to go to increase progesterone...

Good luck!

 

[Pipskin]

Thanks for your advice and generosity with your own experience. I think I will ask my Gynecologist in November to prescribe me progesterone suppositories, and ask if he can do progesterone level tests (if they even do that sort of thing?) I wonder if he would prescribe me Clomid or if that would even help??? Have you tried that yet Googly? I just don't want to be fobbed off as always seems to happen. Any advice or buzz words to use when speaking to him guys???

 

[googly]

Yeah I'm on my second cycle of Clomid - just a 50mg dose at this point. The doc's strategy was to try 3 cycles at the lower dose, then I'd come back in and we'd do more tests and probably up the dose to 100mg. He said he wasn't a fan of prescribing progesterone preemptively, only after a pregnancy is confirmed.... I wasn't too happy at that part because it seems to me that no embyro will be able to implant if AF comes too quickly every montn?!? And a lot of docs ARE happy to prescribe it to try and support the LP earlier. So - I'll ask him about that again when I go back in... IF I have to But yeah, you might find your doc is willing to do that.

GL!

 

[Pipskin]

Thanks again, I have my fingers and toes crossed for you and will look forward to some good news on here from you soon!!! ;-)

 

[DigitalGhost]

Yeah, for me I'm sure it's the darned BC. I've been mostly on (sometimes off due to side effects) for 3 years. Never again! Arg. I will never use hormonal BC ever again. I know when I got pregnant with DS we were only using condoms as BC so it must be the crazy hormone whacking BCP (nuvaring). Not to mention I'm not getting any younger, just turned 37 in Aug.

So, on to cycle 3. FX for all of us!

And in the meantime...

Yes I'm with you on the I'm having it tonight. I'm 34 so I'm worried too, I'm taking Co Q10 for cell energy it's supposed to help my older eggs (I sure hope). What vitamins are you taking?

My ttc journal: https://www.babyandbump.com/ttc-journals/731749-ttc-baby-1-knew-would-hard.html#post12742928

I'm only taking prenatal vitamins and 25mg of B complex. Or maybe a bit more. It depends on how the pill splits. lol

It's nice to know I'm not too old yet, though it certainly feels like it. lol

I'm not familiar with Co Q10?

Hi, Pip and welcome!

FX as always ladies!

 

[LancyLass]

Hi ladies

I did a bit more research on B6 today (to try to alleviate my panic about low progesterone and possibly miscarrying) and I was trying to find info about what the other things are that are needed for B6 to be absorbed - i.e. why you have to take a B Complex, rather than just pure B6 - and I couldn't find anything at all. B12 needs B6 to be absorbed, but not vice-versa. B6 and magnesium are both needed for progesterone production but the B Complex doesn't have magnesium in it anyway. (If you want more info on the things I found see my journal today https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnan...-lp-worry-worry-worry-bfp-2.html#post12773001 but apologies, you'll have to read through the bits about me worrying myself to death about everything first!).

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else knew any more detail on the "B6 must be taken with other Bs" theory - other than someone on this, or another, forum had told them (as was also the case with me!)

I'm going to go onto pure B6 with a pre-natal vit, but if anyone has any evidence for why this might be a bad idea please tell me now!!! Thanks.

 

[googly]

I should have said on your journal but thanks Lancy, that's useful stuff on B6... (especially this one) sounds like a freakin *wonder* drug actually! I had been considering giving it up because it doesn't seem to have had much effect on me, but I think after reading that I will keep on it just to make sure my B6 levels stay up.

 

[struth]

Hmmmm... I stopped taking anything other that that in Pregnacare (10mg) when I got pregnant. I think next time I will probably do as you have done Lancy. Thanks for this info!

How are you feeling?

 

[LancyLass]

Hmmmm... I stopped taking anything other that that in Pregnacare (10mg) when I got pregnant. I think next time I will probably do as you have done Lancy. Thanks for this info!

How are you feeling?

Well the pains I was having yesterday seem to have eased off this morning, but I've got a doctor's appointment in an hour so I'm getting ready for a fight with them to refer me to the Early Pregnancy Assessment Unit at the hospital! Maybe if I can get that far I might be able to persuade them to do blood tests too and see how progesterone is too? Then if things do go wrong we might have some evidence on progesterone I'll try my best! Not holding out a lot of hope though I have to admit.

 

[booklover]

Hi, hope its ok if I post here.

I have a 10 day luteal phase with a 25 day cycle and started taking 50mg B6 complex for the last month. I am now on day CD27 and today my temp finally dropped to just above my coverline meaning AF should be here tomorrow or the next day. I thought I could only add one day each month to my luteal phase using B6. This is insane surely?!!

I am 12 dpo and all BFNs.

 

[LancyLass]

Hi, hope its ok if I post here.

I have a 10 day luteal phase with a 25 day cycle and started taking 50mg B6 complex for the last month. I am now on day CD27 and today my temp finally dropped to just above my coverline meaning AF should be here tomorrow or the next day. I thought I could only add one day each month to my luteal phase using B6. This is insane surely?!!

I am 12 dpo and all BFNs.

I don't think there's any rules on how much it can lengthen it by. I think other ladies have managed to lengthen it by a couple of days too. It could just be a bit of variation in your LP - mine seems to vary by a couple of days anyway. Plus it depends on exact times - you don't know the exact time you ovulated, so it might actually just be a matter of a few hours difference.

Whatever the reason it looks like good news. Hope it continues into next cycle for you. With a 10-12 day LP it looks promising for you!