Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[Pipskin]

Wow there has been some really good news on here since I was last on, congratulations to all those
I have now been taking Vit B50 (since my premenstrual spotting last month) along with my Pregnicare. I have been eating well, doing exercise, trying to say relaxed and my OV day has gone from day 18 to day14!!!!!! YAY. I have had EWCM since day 9 just 2 days after finishing my So I am hopeful that the Vit B50 is the reason. I am new to the whole charting thing so just hope I am reading my chart correctly as my temperatures do seem a bit erratic, however I did get a definite rise in temperature today from 36.6 to 36.9 Deg C. So Fingers crossed...

 

[gea]

I am also new to all this charting and symptom checking... but since AF came this month - I decided to try the vitamin B thing. I have some at home, but I am not sure if it is enough..
In 1 there is:
B1 15 mg
B2 12 mg
B6 5,5 mg
B12 9µg
Folic acid 200 µg
Panthotenic acid (is it called that in english? ) 27 mg
Niacin 60 mg

It says it is recommended to take 1-2 tablets a day - but that will only make 11 mg B6 and 18 µg of B12? It must be better to take a stronger B6/B12 vitamine right?

I have a 24-25 day cycle - last month I ovulated on CD 12 and that makes a luteal phase of around 11-12. I think - and hope - that if that was longer I might actually get pregnant (or be able to stay pregnant, because I think that some cycles there is a pregnancy there, but it is not able to last...). Thoughts? Ideas?

 

[Alexi201]

I am also new to all this charting and symptom checking... but since AF came this month - I decided to try the vitamin B thing. I have some at home, but I am not sure if it is enough..
In 1 there is:
B1 15 mg
B2 12 mg
B6 5,5 mg
B12 9µg
Folic acid 200 µg
Panthotenic acid (is it called that in english? ) 27 mg
Niacin 60 mg

It says it is recommended to take 1-2 tablets a day - but that will only make 11 mg B6 and 18 µg of B12? It must be better to take a stronger B6/B12 vitamine right?

I have a 24-25 day cycle - last month I ovulated on CD 12 and that makes a luteal phase of around 11-12. I think - and hope - that if that was longer I might actually get pregnant (or be able to stay pregnant, because I think that some cycles there is a pregnancy there, but it is not able to last...). Thoughts? Ideas?

Hi Gea, I feel like I'm getting pregnant some cycles as well but it doesn't last due to low progesterone...im hoping the 100mg of vitamin b6 that I started taking last month will boost my progesterone levels & increase my LP from 12days...fingers crossed for this cycle that we get BFPs!

 

[254]

I have a 24-25 day cycle - last month I ovulated on CD 12 and that makes a luteal phase of around 11-12. I think - and hope - that if that was longer I might actually get pregnant (or be able to stay pregnant, because I think that some cycles there is a pregnancy there, but it is not able to last...). Thoughts? Ideas?

I can only speak for myself, but if it were me I wouldn't be worried at all about a 11-12 day LP. Anything 9 and under is seen by some as a potential worry, but 11 and 12 is well into the realms of 'normal'. I conceived twice (in 2008 and 2009) with a 11 day LP, and I know if I had that now I wouldn't be taking B6 supplements. Just my two penn'orth, though - everyone is different! - and I totally know that feeling of wanting to 'do something' to try to help you conceive. How long have you been trying for?

Good luck!

Hiya, we've been TTC baby number 2 for over a year. My LH is 9/10 days so started taking B6 last Monday, i've been taking folic acid for months. I don't produce much CM, hardly any, so i'm trying preseed this month and I also just started charting.
So we are trying everything this month.

Hello and welcome to the B6 thread! I've also been trying for #2 for over a year so I know some of how you're feeling. I have a 7 day LP that was possibly *just* 8 days last cycle. B6 for months hasn't helped me on that front (the cycle I got to 8 days I didn't actually take it!) but I'm pretty sure it has given my fertile CM a bit of a boost, as when I stopped I had almost no fertile CM... will reserve judgment until after this cycle (50mg B6 plus agnus castus and EPO) but I'm hopeful. Fingers crossed it has that effect for you. Keep us updated how you get on!

 

[greengerbera]

Hi everyone ...

Just thought I would update to where I am at ....

Has another 8 day luteal phase cycle this month which was disappointing!

Had my NHS appointment in September - but was a complete waste of time - they think a 8 luteal phase is fine with a 26 day cycle and would not give any treatment such as clomid to help it ... so I am back to square one!!

I have now decided to have a AMH test done - just to check my reserves and have booked a private appointment with a fertility specialist to discuss results and possible options in October. At least I have someones complete attention to listen to my concerns and I am hoping perhaps recognise my short luteal phase is a problem...

I have gone back on B6 this month - as having a month off didn't make any difference to my cycle - I think I might up the dose a little as well - to see if that helps...

 

[LancyLass]

Hi everyone ...

Just thought I would update to where I am at ....

Has another 8 day luteal phase cycle this month which was disappointing!

Had my NHS appointment in September - but was a complete waste of time - they think a 8 luteal phase is fine with a 26 day cycle and would not give any treatment such as clomid to help it ... so I am back to square one!!

I have now decided to have a AMH test done - just to check my reserves and have booked a private appointment with a fertility specialist to discuss results and possible options in October. At least I have someones complete attention to listen to my concerns and I am hoping perhaps recognise my short luteal phase is a problem...

I have gone back on B6 this month - as having a month off didn't make any difference to my cycle - I think I might up the dose a little as well - to see if that helps...

Oh that sucks! I'm so sorry to hear they weren't interested. I'm not surprised though. The more research I've done into it I've realised that is the NHS official line on short LP: "its not been proven to be a problem".

Glad to hear you're seeing a private specialist. I hope that brings you more joy and makes you feel someone is listening and prepared to help.

 

[googly]

Hey B6ers so check out my LP - my first ever 11-day LP! (well if I make it through the day, which is looking hopeful at this point with a complete lack of AF symptoms). I kind of doubt this is down to the B6 though, I think it's the clomid... last cycle, my first on clomid, I had an ambiguous ov date, so I wasn't sure if I had a 9 or 11 day LP (9 is the usual). But I think now this cycle has easily reached 11, it might have been last month too. So that's a for the clomid!

 

[googly]

I should say that I have also had a couple of s so no joy there... but I'm just wrapt about the LP creeping up a couple of days more than anything!

 

[gea]

I have a 24-25 day cycle - last month I ovulated on CD 12 and that makes a luteal phase of around 11-12. I think - and hope - that if that was longer I might actually get pregnant (or be able to stay pregnant, because I think that some cycles there is a pregnancy there, but it is not able to last...). Thoughts? Ideas?

I can only speak for myself, but if it were me I wouldn't be worried at all about a 11-12 day LP. Anything 9 and under is seen by some as a potential worry, but 11 and 12 is well into the realms of 'normal'. I conceived twice (in 2008 and 2009) with a 11 day LP, and I know if I had that now I wouldn't be taking B6 supplements. Just my two penn'orth, though - everyone is different! - and I totally know that feeling of wanting to 'do something' to try to help you conceive. How long have you been trying for?

Good luck!

I know that 11-12 days is considered normal, but somehow I can't manage to stay pregnant. We have been trying since January this year. I am 35 - almost 36, so time is ticking... This is my second marriage and I have 2 children from previous relationship. My husband also has 2 from previous (they are now 14 and 20 and don't live with us). So we know that we both have been able to before.

This month especially I am sure I "was there" but for some reason it didn't stick. I have had that experience some months and thats why I am wanting to do something extra. If I can do something with vitamins or similiar thats great! Otherwise I will have to see the doctor and see what they say!

 

[greengerbera]

Congratulations Googly on the 11 Day LP!!! I would also be excited if I ever got to that point!!!

Hopefully this is proving that Clomid does help in extending the LP for women that B6 does not help...

Lets hope you see those 2 lines soon!!!!

Keep us posted!!

Thanks Lancy on the kind email - fingers crossed I can join you on the pregnancy front soon!!! Hope it is all going well for you so far... )

 

[254]

Greengerbera - I really hope that you get much more joy from a private FS... I reckon the odds are high that you will. I'm also currently hitting the NHS brick wall of 'a short LP isn't proven to be a problem'...

Googly.... oh my goodness, you're 12dpo! That is wonderful to see that clomid is helping your LP. Really great to hear. I hope that you get that this cycle, but if not, hopefully an 11+ day LP means it's not going to be too far off...

 

[LancyLass]

Hey B6ers so check out my LP - my first ever 11-day LP! (well if I make it through the day, which is looking hopeful at this point with a complete lack of AF symptoms). I kind of doubt this is down to the B6 though, I think it's the clomid... last cycle, my first on clomid, I had an ambiguous ov date, so I wasn't sure if I had a 9 or 11 day LP (9 is the usual). But I think now this cycle has easily reached 11, it might have been last month too. So that's a for the clomid!

Googly that's brilliant news!! Yay for clomid!! Keep us updated!

Greengerbera thanks for the best wishes. It's been a bit of a rocky time but the little bean is hanging on for now. I think I'll feel happier when I get past 8 weeks as hopefully then it'll be past the high risk time for LPD.

 

[Pipskin]

Hello again, I ovulated on day 14 this month (which is a 4 day improvement on last month) After taking vit B50 (and my usual Pregnicare) for 1 month. I had 7 days of high temperatures at 36.8 - 36.9 with sore breasts so thought things wore looking good. However I am now on day 22 (8 days into my Luteal phase) and had a temp drop to 36.7 with spotting this morning. It was very light but I have felt tired and bloated for the last 2 days. Do you think it could be plantation bleeding or do the signs look like my is coming. It worries me as it is so early if that is the case!!!

 

[Bug222]

just came across this thread.. thanks to all the ladies on here who have posted.. so much good info. My LP was only 9 days this cycle.. and this was a 26 day cycle.. sometimes my cycles are only 24 days so i would guess it would be even shorter then. Going to find some B complex in the am.

 

[greengerbera]

Hi Everyone,

Thought I would post a quick update after my appointment with private consultant.

He has prescribed me progesterone (Cylogest 200g) for this cycle to take twice a day for 10 days after O...

So I am now 4dpo - so waiting to see if it does anything for me - I am keeping all fingers and toes crossed as the consultant also said that I need to seriously consider IVF if I seriously want a 2nd child...

So if progesterone doesn't work then it looks like IVF here I come (gulp....)

 

[Chiclady]

Hi ladies -

It's been a while since I was in here, but I wanted to let you all know that Vitamin B does work! I had an 11 day LP with spotting a few days before AF and I just got my yesterday! I'm beyond thrilled. It took a few months, but it definitely contributed to my positive test!

 

[struth]

Congrats Chiclady - that is great news!!!

I hope you have a happy and healthy 9 months xx

 

[254]

I just got my yesterday!

Congratulations Chiclady!!!

Strangely, I've also come on here to share that I got a faint 2nd line yesterday! Looks like you're just 2 days ahead of me based on ovulation date and our cycles even started on exactly the same day!

Still not quite believing it... I'll feel happier when I have a darker line but telling myself right now that a line's a line.

My LP has been 7 days for a while, with a 1 or 2 that were 'just/almost' 8, one random 9 in May, and before that LP was 6 days for about 6 months. My last cycle's LP was either 8 or 12 days. So basically, for me it's been either 7-->12--> or 8--> - quite a jump, either way! I hope this gives hope to people here... I wouldn't have believed it a few days ago, but it seems that it is possible to conceive even after a long time with a very short LP.

I'm not sure whether B6 helped me... I took B50+50mg B6 for a while, stopped when I felt it wasn't doing anything, then this cycle I went back on the 50mg B6 as I worked out it was helping me have more EWCM, even if it wasn't directly influencing my LP.

As well as 50mg B6 and EPO (til ov) I also took 2000mg agnus castus (vitex) throughout my last 2 cycles (having taken 1600mg just up to ov before that)... did lots of research and found some suggestions that it should only be taken until ovulation (in case it causes minute uterine contractions which prevent implantation) and some saying it's fine throughout the LP and into pregnancy. I figured I wasn't getting pregnant anyway, so I'd give it a go... I think that's helped me, although obviously I can't say for sure what 'made the difference'.

It's taken us 13 months of ttc... My Day 21 bloods last cycle showed my progesterone in on the low side, I'd just been referred to a fertility specialist to investigate secondary infertility. It seems that maybe, just maybe, miracles do happen.

Still can't quite believe it... I might start to if I have a nice strong 2nd line this time next week.

This thread is great and I've met some really lovely people through it. I hope there are lots more s very soon.

 

[struth]

I can't stop smiling! Am loving the great news on here x x

 

[Chiclady]

congratulations 254! That's awesome news!