Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[ES89]

Think I am just trying to latch on to any reason I read as to why I haven't been successful yet but after coming onto this site I have realised I am not on my own. I think if I hear something positive from my GP I will calm down and just let nature take its toll. I am worried as my mum took 9 years to conceive and I really don't want to be waiting that long

 

[DaisyQ]

Hi all...

ES89, this TTC business is some frustrating stuff, especially as it is so out of our control. I think for most of us, trying different supplements or TTC techniques is our way of feeling like we are doing SOMETHING, taking control of something, that might help. It's so hard to know if any of this stuff really does help as there are so few studies actually looking at the various supplements or techniques.

How is everyone else doing?

Happenstance, thanks for your note. I too hope it's IB, but I guess only time will tell. My temp took a big dive today, but is not yet below the coverline. Spotting has mostly stopped, and have not yet had any more red blood since yesterday am. I had a small amount of dark brown spotting earlier today. I'm a little crampy and boobs are still sore. Not planning on testing again until AF is definitely late. The longest my LP has ever been was 13 days, which was last cycle when I was taking progesterone cream. If I get to 15 DPO and no AF, I will test again, especially if my temps stay above the coverline. My guess is that the witch will arrive later today or tomorrow. I will likely cancel my appointment at the RE's office and reschedule for CD 3 once AF does show...

 

[DaisyQ]

She's here, unfortunately. Going to go in Tuesday for CD 3 bloodwork, then HSG on CD 9. Oh well, so much for the IB theory.

 

[Miss Broody]

Aww Daisy, sorry to hear she got you!! So how long was your LP this time?

I have been taking half a B100 tablet for a couple of days and did get a bit of numbness yesterday in my leg, which i dont think is a good sign, but could be a coincidence perhaps?

Will take it for the rest of the cycle and see! I should ovulate tommorrow if my other cycles are anything to go by, but i won't know for definate because at the beginning of this cycle i decided not to temp and to have a month off.

Hope your all well! x

 

[Happenstance]

She's here, unfortunately. Going to go in Tuesday for CD 3 bloodwork, then HSG on CD 9. Oh well, so much for the IB theory.

I'm so sorry to hear that AF arrived. Sending you and wishing you lots of luck at your appointment in a couple of days time.

 

[Bean66]

Hey ladies. Sorry I disappeared. I have been following but no time to reply.

Happenstance - so sorry the doc was nasty. How's the spotting?

Daisy - Sorry the witch got you hun. But at least your LP was a little longer even if you had spotting.

Miss Broody - where about's was the numbness? I very much doubt it was linked but keep an eye on it.

ES89 - how long have you been trying for? I jumped in at 100mg but that's me. It is probably best to start lower and increase but it's individual choice.

253 - Hope you O soon and get a lovely BFP. If not that I hope at least you have a lovely long LP.

Happy29 - great you hear the heart beat. I bet you;re looking forward to your scan on the 30th.

AFM - Had watery cm on saturday so took an OPK and it was very nearly positive, peed on 2 sticks on Sunday (24hours later) and positive for one but no smiley on the digital. So not sure what to think. I know digi's are less sensitive and need more LH to register positive. Tested again later and still no smiley and I'm thinking I missed it. We bd'd anyway. Not sure if it was a false start. Happened before. I'm on ly cd14 today and I normally O cd18-20. Temping so I'll know in a few days.

 

[254]

Miss Broody... hmmm... I know that numbness can be a side effect of large doses of B6, although 50mg isn't that massive. I'd keep an eye on it and if it continues it's probably a sign that it's not agreeing with your body. Fingers crossed it was a one off.

Ah, sorry to hear that Daisy Tell me to take a walk if I'm being too nosey, but just wondered how come you're having lots of tests at the mo? I know the US healthcare system works differently... can you just ask for a test and have it? (Here they don't run fertility tests until you've been ttc over 12/18 months if you're under 35) Just interested cos it's fascinating how different countries work!

As for me... beautifully fertile cervix at the mo (which I only get on the day of or just before ovulation), although absolutely nothing on OPKs and ferning, which is odd. We shall see! Bodies are confusing things.

 

[ES89]

been off my pill for a year, probably best I start low and increase if needed I think Appreciate all the advice DaisyQ and bean66

 

[DaisyQ]

Hi ladies!

Mrs. Broody, my LP ended up at 12 days, with 3 days of spotting on days 10, 11 and 12 DPO. I'm happy with a 12 day LP - it used to be 11 days. Last month it was 13, but I was also doing progesterone cream.

254, not too nosy at all. Here it really depends on your insurance plan. Some people have very limited insurance and infertility benefits are nonexistant. Others have plans where they must get a referral to an infertility specialist from their primary care doctor, in which case, they may be told to wait 12 months (under 35) or 6 months (over 35) before a referral will be made - unelss of course there is some other obvious issue such as anovulation. In my case, we have a very comprehensive health insurance package thanks to my DH's work. It includes infertility benefits, and I did not have to get a referral to see the RE. Since the recommendation in the US is to get checked out after 6 months of TTC if you are over 35, I decided that 34 is close enough! Plus I feel that we DTD with perfect timing every month, as determined by charting, the CBFM and OPKs - and never a BFP. The package inserts that come with the monitor, OPKs and also preseed all recommend seeking professional advice if you don't conceive within 3-4 months of using these products... Soooo... I really felt that it wasn't too soon to get checked out. The doctor agreed - that 6 months for someone my age is long enough to wait to at least get some diagnostics done. Not sure if he will recommend continuing to try natural cycles until I get to 1 year, or whether he'll suggest trying interventions (meds, IUI etc.) sooner than that - I'll keep you in the loop.

Bean - sounds promising! Do keep in mind that there can be LH "waves" throughout the cycle. So you could have missed it with the digi OR you could have been picking up the first wave with the IC OPK... time will tell!

GL to everyone this cycle! Really hoping for a BFP soon girls - one of us at LEAST!

 

[Rebandy11]

AF got me this morning 
Oh well I guess on to the next month
I take b100 complex as I started spotting 10DPO most months, this is my second month taking it and I didn't start spotting till 12DPO this month so I'll take two extra days 

 

[DaisyQ]

That's great!!

 

[DaisyQ]

Sorry, not about AF, but about the delayed spotting.

 

[Bean66]

Rebandy11 - Sorry about Af but great about the spotting. Spotting from cd12 shouldn't cause any problems.

Daisy - Great you have such good insurance. Hope the bloods are ok. DO you know what they are testing?

254 - we're the opposite way around. Positive OPK but my fertile signs aren't as strong and I've had no temp rise. I forgot to do an OPK yesterday though. Maybe you just missed your surge? Either way bd!!

AFM- Yesterday had small amount of ewcm and high cervix but no temp rise today. We're were trying not to over do the bding this month. We kept starting too early and DH felt he had no swimmers left by O day. Last month with the chemical we only bd'd day before and day of + OPK. If I have major fertile signs today we'll bd again tonight. If not we'll have a rest day.

 

[ebony2010]

I know I don't post here much but I wanted to update you all. I got my bfp. The first time I got my bfp I was on my 2nd cycle of B50 complex after having an LP of 7 days that went straight up to 11 days. Sadly it ended in a MMC but that was unrelated to all this. Anyway, this time my LP was already 11 days but no bfp so I took b6 & b12 just in case it was my missing link. This cycle was my 2nd cycle on it again and I thought it was doing more harm than good as I started spotting at 7dpo last cycle and 6dpo this cycle. Well it looks like the spotting meant nothing at all as I got my bfp! I just wanted to update this thread as I've posted in the past and know how helpful these updates can be.

Good luck everyone. I'm always stalking this thread. xxx

 

[Happenstance]

254 I agree, our bodies are super confusing Have you had any positives with your OPKs or ferning? Get BD-ing anyway as I never trust these OPKs - I think sometimes the manufacturers slip in a few dud ones just to confuse the beejeesus out of us! Do you temp?

Rebandy11 - an extra two days is excellent news. I'm so glad it's working for you

DaisyQ when is your appointment with the doctor? Is is tomorrow? Wishing you lots of luck

Bean66 what cycle day are you on? Do you normally o around the same time each month or does it vary? For the last three cycles I've used the CBFM and it always started my 'high' days ridiculously early (last month it started from cd6!) and I think by the time o day came DH and I were concerned about the amount of swimmers he had left. So I think you are doing the right thing trying to hold off as best you can until o.

Also, when do you take your OPK? I always found that I got a positive around 3pm(ish) the day before my monitor picked up a peak. For days before my o day I was dehydrated and bursting for a pee all the time as I was trying to keep my pee as undiluted as possible. Men just don't understand what we go through!!! Good luck and I hope you o really soon

AFM: still spotting, no change.

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

what does B12 do?

im still taking the B6, hoping ill get BFP this week!!

 

[ebony2010]

what does B12 do?

im still taking the B6, hoping ill get BFP this week!!

I think taken together with B6 it helps the absorbtion of each other. If you read back on this thread the advise it that too much B6 alone can do more damage than good but I'm not sure if thats really high doses or not. xxx

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

what does B12 do?

im still taking the B6, hoping ill get BFP this week!!

I think taken together with B6 it helps the absorbtion of each other. If you read back on this thread the advise it that too much B6 alone can do more damage than good but I'm not sure if thats really high doses or not. xxx

OH ok. Im taking 50mg B6 and a Multi Vit, not sure if or how much B12 is in it.

ETA: I looked Multi Vit has 12mcg/200% of daily value of B12..not sure what 12mcg is though?

 

[Bean66]

Ebony - congratulations!! Great news!! H&H 9mths!!

OnEth - I'd take more B12 than that. Mcg = micrograms. 1000mcg to 1mg!!

Happenstance - I have been Oing cd18-20. Since starting vitex and b complex it's got a day earlier each cycle. This cycle, on cd12 had lots of very watery cm so did an OPK and it was nearly positive. Did two the next day and superdrug one was positive (test darker than control) but no smiley. Later in the day still no smiley and IC that night was quite faint. Had some EWCM and cervix is high but not as soft as its been before. Thinking it was a false start except just checked and cervix is still high and maybe softer than yesterday. I've had a false surge before and I usually O the day after + OPK. Time will tell.

When do you next see a doc?

 

[DaisyQ]

Ebony!!! Congratulations!!! That is fantastic news and so encouraging and uplifting. It's just what I needed to hear. Was this with Clomid as well??

Yay for you!!!! Wishing you and the bean all the best!