Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[DaisyQ]

And broody, that's fab news! Any sign of AF?

 

[Happenstance]

Thanks for the reassurance happenstance! And gratified that you were right about your own body you should write that nasty doc a letter, or breeze by one day when you are showing, and reenact the scene from pretty woman when she revisits the shop where they didn't take her seriously, and tell him,"big mistake. Huge! Well, off to my Ob appointment!"

Still bleeding over here, and it's heavier than spotting. Im sure bding last night didnt help with the bleeding. Glad I will be seeing the RE today. Hoping he might reassure me about my lining. As for my results, the radiologist verbally told me my tubes are open and uterus looks normal.

That's a BRILLIANT idea!!! I love that scene in Pretty Woman! And I'll be taking you with me for back-up!

I'm so happy you found out that your tubes and uterus are A-okay! That's excellent news and I'm glad they told you verbally rather than have you waiting around for the results.

But I'm so sorry the bleeding's still ongoing - I know how frustrating that is. I really hope your appointment with your RE goes well and you get the answers you're looking for. Please let me know how you get on. I'll be thinking about you

 

[DaisyQ]

Ok so just back from the RE. Ok. So here is the deal. Everything looks fine fine fine for the both of us, so it's "unexplained infertility". The RE said that we can keep trying natural cycles, or "take it up a notch.". We are taking it up a notch. I feel like if I was younger, or already had a child, I could afford to be more patient about the process, but given my age and childlessness (no offense to my stepkids!) I really just want to get the ball rolling. So - I'm going for day 3 bloodwork again, then I go on Clomid (50 mg) to mature 2 eggs ideally, then I'm getting an ultrasound on day 10 with a ovidrel trigger shot. Then iui the next day (one iui, he doesn't feel 2 are necessary). We will try this for several cycles, and if it doesn't work, we will then consider IVF.

I asked about my progesterone and LP, and we wasn't worried about it, but said that the Clomid would fix my progesterone if it's low. He will also give me supplemental progesterone during my LP (vaginal suppositories) because he knows it will make me feel better. He also responded positively when I told him I am trying acupuncture.

 

[smythdm]

Hi guys -

Quick question. How do you read the results on a CB Fertility Monitor by looking at the stick. Which line is estrogen and which line is LH. I know I should rely on the results on the screen once its read, but I want to know!

Also - anyone have experience with 100MG B6 lengthening the FIRST part of the cycle?

 

[HeresHoping33]

Did anyone find that when they stopped taking b6 they didn't have a period? It's been six weeks since I last bled!

 

[DaisyQ]

Here's hoping, I have no idea - I haven't ever stopped taking it..? Do you have long or irregular cycles normally? Are you sure you aren't prego?

Smythdm - the line closest to the side with the "chipped" corner is the estrogen line. When you get a low reading on the CBFM, it will look bright blue. As your estrogen starts to surge it will start to wash or fade out and become lighter. When your LH surges, a second line will become visible and will become more prominent. When the LH line is the dominant line, and the estrogen line is relatively pale, that's generally when the monitor says Peak. Hope that helps.

 

[Miss Broody]

Ok so just back from the RE. Ok. So here is the deal. Everything looks fine fine fine for the both of us, so it's "unexplained infertility". The RE said that we can keep trying natural cycles, or "take it up a notch.". We are taking it up a notch. I feel like if I was younger, or already had a child, I could afford to be more patient about the process, but given my age and childlessness (no offense to my stepkids!) I really just want to get the ball rolling. So - I'm going for day 3 bloodwork again, then I go on Clomid (50 mg) to mature 2 eggs ideally, then I'm getting an ultrasound on day 10 with a ovidrel trigger shot. Then iui the next day (one iui, he doesn't feel 2 are necessary). We will try this for several cycles, and if it doesn't work, we will then consider IVF.

I asked about my progesterone and LP, and we wasn't worried about it, but said that the Clomid would fix my progesterone if it's low. He will also give me supplemental progesterone during my LP (vaginal suppositories) because he knows it will make me feel better. He also responded positively when I told him I am trying acupuncture.

Great news that they are going to help you to step it up though, even if they cannot pin point the exact cause! And even though its frustrating its unexplained at least they will have ruled out the major things!!

Also good that we was supportive to all your concerns such as LP and progesterone! I want him as my doctor!!! If i dont get pregnant in the next coupl eof cycles i think i am going to try accupuncture - sounds good.

No news here, still no AF, I am honestly going to be jumping around if i make it to tommorrow - 10dpo wow!! I remember thinking i'd never make it past 7!! I am on B100 so a medium dose!

The problem now of course is to focus on the longer LP and not the what if.... question!!! Of course because i have never had a LP this long i am starting to wonder..... I have some symptoms but you could put them all down to AF really and the fact i am not well! x

 

[Miss Broody]

Hi guys -

Quick question. How do you read the results on a CB Fertility Monitor by looking at the stick. Which line is estrogen and which line is LH. I know I should rely on the results on the screen once its read, but I want to know!

Also - anyone have experience with 100MG B6 lengthening the FIRST part of the cycle?

I think for the majority it shortens the first part but the one thing i have heard from reading about the B vits is that different people react in very different ways!!

Are you only taking B6 or a complex?

x

 

[HeresHoping33]

DaisyQ thanks for replying. When I was taking b6 my period was coming every 20 something days. My cycle is usually every 33 days. I highly doubt I am pregnant.

 

[DaisyQ]

Here's hoping, it's possible that the B6 moved your O date up some? My O date has moved from CD 18 to CD 15, and therefore my cycle has shortened since taking it from 30 days to 27. ?? Just an idea.

Broody, thanks for the response. I do wish the Dr.'s here were more interested in the diagnostic process, but that just doesn't seem to be the general approach unfortunately. I do think the docs are concerned with results (and so am I!) so just as long as there's a baby sooner rather than later, I'm happy. And I am happy that he's willing to move forward with fertility treatments this early in the game. It will be cycle 8 that I will be trying IUI.

 

[Miss Broody]

Oh, and I meant to tell you all something else that I found out. Remember my whole saga at A&E when I had pain in my lower left side? Well, apparently I have a corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary. It's apparently been left over from ovulation (I ovulated from my left ovary this cycle) and while it's nothing to worry about, it can cause pain. So, there you have it, that stupid doctor said it was to do with my bowels and I was really concerned that I had a different anatomical make up to everyone else in the world - I mean come on, bowel pains where my ovary is!!!

Sorry, I know that's not terribly interesting to anyone but I still haven't got over my experience with that horrible doctor. Oh, and I also like being right - mind you, us women always are!!!

There is just something about being right...

It is ridiculous though how many stories like yours you hear where we know better than the doctors do!! A little scary too!!

 

[smythdm]

Perfect - thanks so much, I'll now be scouring my CBFM for hidden meaning.

I'm taking B Complex and waiting waiting waiting on ovulation/peak. I just took another cheap OPK test when I came home from work - no dice, its actually a lighter line than it was earlier this week.

Hopefully this means that luteal phase will also be extended, but I'm worried as my husband is traveling on Monday and I don't want to run out of time! Actually thinking that this wait is worse than the 2ww.

 

[DaisyQ]

Perfect - thanks so much, I'll now be scouring my CBFM for hidden meaning.

GL! I hope you peak soon! Don't despair, the LH surge can sneak up on you - one day there's no line, and then the next, bam! You are surging.

 

[smythdm]

Smythdm - the line closest to the side with the "chipped" corner is the estrogen line. When you get a low reading on the CBFM, it will look bright blue. As your estrogen starts to surge it will start to wash or fade out and become lighter. When your LH surges, a second line will become visible and will become more prominent. When the LH line is the dominant line, and the estrogen line is relatively pale, that's generally when the monitor says Peak. Hope that helps.

OK so sorry - another question; should I expect a fade in/fade out of the lines on CBFM? (I know OPKs don't necessary have a fade in, right?)

 

[DaisyQ]

Sometimes there is a fade in/fade out, sometimes not so much. The estrogen line definitely fades out progressively, then back in. Sometimes the LH line is not really there, and then all of a sudden, it is.

 

[smythdm]

Perfect - thanks so much, I'll now be scouring my CBFM for hidden meaning.

GL! I hope you peak soon! Don't despair, the LH surge can sneak up on you - one day there's no line, and then the next, bam! You are surging.

I just went and pulled them all out of the trash can to search for meaning - I didn't find any HSG is next month if this month doesn't happen, so fingers crossed b/c I'm nervous about that.

 

[DaisyQ]

Oh well - pretty soon you'll be a POAS collector like me - I have last month's all labled with a sharpie, and in a ziplock bag so I can compare last months to this months! It's like trying to read a crystal ball!

I felt the same way last month before my HSG - I really hoped I got prego so I wouldn't need to have it. I ended up having it, and it wasn't fun, but it wasn't terrible. I had some pretty bad cramping during, but it didn't last long and I felt fine immediately after. I am having bleeding though still, 4 days later.

 

[Happenstance]

DaisyQ, that's excellent news! I'm so happy they're taking you seriously and that they're going to start the ball rolling for you. So is it this cycle you're going on Clomid? I've read about so many women who have massive success with it and I really hope this is the case for you. I had actually asked to be referred to an infertility specialist and I got my appointment in two days after getting my BFP - so don't be surprised if your new excited/relaxed attitude works wonders for you too! And great news on the progesterone suppositories, it's just an additional safety measure and will definitely make you feel more relaxed. I went to my doctor and asked for progesterone supplements when I found out I was pg and my temps were dropping (if you look at my chart I was below coverline on one of the days) but she just told me to stop worrying and not to read too much online. So, I'm glad your doctor is listening to you. I agree with broody, I want your doc too!!! Sending you lots of and even more

Miss Broody I'm getting really excited about your lack of AF! I'm praying there's a BFP in your hands very soon. When are you planning on testing?

Bean66 good luck with your bloods today! Hope all goes well

 

[254]

HeresHoping33 - Hmmmm.... 20 days is a very short cycle, and 30 sounds much better, so maybe it's a sign your cycles are settling down rather than a bad thing?? Fingers crossed! Do you chart?

DaisyQ - I hope you get good luck soon. I'm pretty shocked a doctor would label your situation as 'infertility' - surely after 6 months of ttc it's currently just a case of you 'not being pregnant yet' as everything seems in working order with both you and your husband?!

Happenstance - haha, it's pretty wrong that I was able to say it sounded like an ovarian cyst but a doctor in a&e couldn't, it's it??!! I'm glad you've got a reason for the achiness. Are you still having pain? Corpus luteum cysts are very normal and tend to have gone by the end of the first trimester, if not earlier.

Can't comment on any of the CBFM discussions! I used my cervix and CM (and more recently a saliva ferning microscope) to tell me when ovulation is coming.

Me update... 8dpo today which means period's due tomorrow or maybe early the next day (I ovulated late on CD19). Feel like I usually do a few days before it comes... occasionally crampy... so not expecting anything out of the ordinary. Soon it'll be cycle 18 and a year and a half of trying... phew!

 

[HeresHoping33]

Hey 254, my period were usually 33 days but I took b6 for 3 months and the cycle lengths were approx 23, 31 and 21 consecutively, bearing in mind the 2nd month I used EPO! I stopped taking B6 Dec 18th when my period came and have not had one since. Seems like the B6 sent my body haywire