Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[Bean66]

Hey ladies.

Sorry been MIA.

Where to start......

Joey's - Glad IUI went ok. I think acupuncture on the same day is a great idea. Fxd hun!

Sotiredmama - Don't worry about CM too much. I've found that lots of water helps and I think EPO is too. I've read that sometimes the EWCM can be hiding. It's best to check after a BM. I find that sometimes I check and nothing, then had a good delve and manage to catch a bit. I think it evades us sometimes. Try not to worry. That's so frustrating re: the midwife. How come you are under a midwife rather than a regular doctor? Didn't realise they dealt with TTC.

Lizc - Good luck. Hope you caught that egg!

Daisy - HOw are you hun?

254 - How are you? Have your nerves calmed? When is your scan?

AFM - Just waiting. Hoping to O early but doubt it'l be before CD18. CD9 today.

 

[joeys3453]

bean glad to hear from you! hope everything is ok!

i hope that was good for the acupuncture and iui. The progesterone supp just make me worried on if i am inserting them correctly vaginally. I called my dr to make sure and she said that it doesn't matter how far you put them it should still work???

 

[Bean66]

Yeah your doc is right as long as it's in it's fine. Fxd hun.

 

[sotiredmama]

Well, I go to a midwife practice (they delivered my toddler). Here, they can do pretty much everything an OB can except perform a c-section. Also, my GP doesn't deal with reproductive stuff (I assume he would if a woman has no GYN care, but I've never actually asked). The practice has a nurse practitioner who deals with fertility problems, so I'm seeing her for this as opposed to my regular midwife, who did prenatal care and L&D for me.

She's probably right, my progesterone is probably fine, but if it's not and that's what's causing a short LP, I really don't want to wait another month to find out, you know?

Good luck, bean!

Oh, and I took 2 mucinex and now have fertile CM!

 

[DaisyQ]

Hi Bean,

I responded to you on the other thread, but I'm doing OK. I hope you are hanging in there.

254, good to hear from you, how are you feeling?

Joeys, tons of dust to you.

Sotired - what a FRUSTRATING situation. Honestly (and excuse my directness), this midwife may be fabulous at prenatal and L&D, but she doesn't sound like she knows much about TTC, at all. It's a bummer your GP can't help more. Is there any way to see someone else who specializes in fertility??

xxoo

 

[254]

Hey ladies - thanks for asking how I'm doing! Good thanks... 7+1 today, and over the last 3 days I've picked up Moonbaby's heartbeat on my doppler, which has reassured me SO much. It's super early, so it was quite a surprise... but a very nice surprise. Have got a video on my journal. Scan is at the weekend.

Still feel SO lucky and SO grateful. There were many times when I honestly couldn't imagine this happening... but somehow, after a year and a half, it did. Strangely, now it's happening, it feels like the 'right time'...

Still check in on you all regularly and hoping that there will be lots of new bumps growing very, very soon.

 

[sotiredmama]

254, I wasn't around for your TTC journey, but I'm so happy for you! If you can hear a heartbeat at 8 weeks, I learned the risk of miscarriage is minuscule (way lower than the overall risk of m/c at 8 weeks, if that makes sense). So you're almost there!

Hearing that heartbeat is so amazing!

 

[sotiredmama]

Daisy, no excuse needed. I think you're right. Frankly, I think a lot of midwives and OBs aren't experts on reproductive issues, especially since the explosion of specialists. Most doctors outsource the non-routine stuff to specialists these days.

I think the next step is either to switch to another OB or to ask for a referral to a RE. I *think* this NP is actually reasonably knowledgeable, just doesn't think it's worth checking this stuff out at this stage (she said I'm young -- I'm not quite 30 yet -- haven't been trying too long, and this is the first cycle she's following me. She said she doesn't test everyone for everything or she'd be sticking people all day long). All of that is true, but none of it is relevant if my LP is too short to sustain a pregnancy, KWIM? Most of the time, I agree with a fairly conservative approach to medicine, but a 7dpo progesterone is kind of step 1, so it doesn't seem overreaching to ask for it.

I could ask for a referral to a RE, but I'm not sure she'd give it to me yet. I know someone who went to an OB who started treating her anovulation without making her wait a long time, so that might be something to check out. Maybe I could switch for TTC and then switch back for L&D.

Also, GOOD LUCK this month! Fingers crossed for you!

 

[DaisyQ]

Thanks sotired.

I couldnt agree with you more. Asking for a referral to a re or switching ob's for ttc both sound like reasonable plans to me. I think you just have to be assertive about getting what you want. Be nice but direct. It's hard for me to assert myself, but I'm finding I have to a lot with this ttc stuff (it's character building I guess), but I am getting what I want (so far).

Good luck!

 

[LLPM]

254, glad things are going well. awesome that you've heard a heartbeat that early!

sotiredmama...i was starting to think the same about the vits making my have less CM. i haven't had any this month either and i usually have LOADS! this is what's making me think i haven't O'd yet even though FF says i have!

joeys...i'm not really sure how it all works, but does the IUI mean you are now in the 2 week wait?

i'm still confused! apparently i O'd on CD18, but my temps are still erratic and CM isn't at the right time either (i don't think i'll be convinced till i get my period). we BD'd on CD15 so if i did O then there is a slim chance we may have caught it. i'm looking on the bright side, at least if i don't get pg this time then i'll see if the b-vits have done anything to my LP.

 

[LLPM]

oh man, took an OPK...almost positive! so expecting to O in the next day or two. great thats it's only CD21 (as opposed to my usual CD31!!) BUT hubby doesn't get home til Monday! i guess there's always next cycle.

 

[joeys3453]

hang in there!

so since my trigger on sunday i have gotten a smiley or positive on my opk since monday and even today had iui on tuesday is this normal?

 

[lizc123]

Oh no I have started spotting am only on day 22 of my cycle last few have been 32days with 4/5 days of spotting before. So definitely think I have o'd early this cycle certainly hope so as do not want 10 days of spotting
So in theory if I am not preg af should arrive in 5days which would be a random 27 day cycle
It's quite pink with a couple of spots of red normally starts of more of a beige colour then gets progressively pinker
Crap end to a crap day argh! Will not even consider it is IB bleeding I firmly the believe the cycle if/when I get pregnant there will be no IB

 

[LLPM]

Sorry joeys, I have no idea about all this stuff! Hope it works for you and you get your bfp this cycle.

Lizc, have you recently started vits? This is my first month on them, I usually O around day 31 but got a positive opk and ewcm today at CD22. Hopefully you did O early - spotting for 10 days would suck a bit!

 

[Bean66]

Well, I go to a midwife practice (they delivered my toddler). Here, they can do pretty much everything an OB can except perform a c-section. Also, my GP doesn't deal with reproductive stuff (I assume he would if a woman has no GYN care, but I've never actually asked). The practice has a nurse practitioner who deals with fertility problems, so I'm seeing her for this as opposed to my regular midwife, who did prenatal care and L&D for me.

She's probably right, my progesterone is probably fine, but if it's not and that's what's causing a short LP, I really don't want to wait another month to find out, you know?

Good luck, bean!

Oh, and I took 2 mucinex and now have fertile CM!

Sotiredmama - Sorry I've forgotten how long have you been TTC? Are you BFing or just stopped? How short is your LP? I think these things just need time. I know it is frustrating. I spot and have/had a shortish LP and my progesterone was good. A 7dpo test won't do any harm. I'd see how this cycle goes, if you have a short LP then maybe push for a blood test. Your body may just need to find it's own balance again and I don't think our bodies can be pushed too much. It'll right itself when it's ready to carry another baby. I know this is utterly frustrating. It's taken nearly a year for my body to sort itself out post BCP. (just realised I quoted to wrong message but oh well)

Hey ladies - thanks for asking how I'm doing! Good thanks... 7+1 today, and over the last 3 days I've picked up Moonbaby's heartbeat on my doppler, which has reassured me SO much. It's super early, so it was quite a surprise... but a very nice surprise. Have got a video on my journal. Scan is at the weekend.

Still feel SO lucky and SO grateful. There were many times when I honestly couldn't imagine this happening... but somehow, after a year and a half, it did. Strangely, now it's happening, it feels like the 'right time'...

Still check in on you all regularly and hoping that there will be lots of new bumps growing very, very soon.

That's fantastic. Will pop over to your journal later and check it out. We'll all be joining you soon.

254, glad things are going well. awesome that you've heard a heartbeat that early!

sotiredmama...i was starting to think the same about the vits making my have less CM. i haven't had any this month either and i usually have LOADS! this is what's making me think i haven't O'd yet even though FF says i have!

joeys...i'm not really sure how it all works, but does the IUI mean you are now in the 2 week wait?

i'm still confused! apparently i O'd on CD18, but my temps are still erratic and CM isn't at the right time either (i don't think i'll be convinced till i get my period). we BD'd on CD15 so if i did O then there is a slim chance we may have caught it. i'm looking on the bright side, at least if i don't get pg this time then i'll see if the b-vits have done anything to my LP.

oh man, took an OPK...almost positive! so expecting to O in the next day or two. great thats it's only CD21 (as opposed to my usual CD31!!) BUT hubby doesn't get home til Monday! i guess there's always next cycle.

That's annoying but you never know. At least you know you prob haven't O'd yet so know not to expect AF yet. Can you link your chart to your sig so I can be noisy? If you did O when FF said you did what dpi would you be?

Oh no I have started spotting am only on day 22 of my cycle last few have been 32days with 4/5 days of spotting before. So definitely think I have o'd early this cycle certainly hope so as do not want 10 days of spotting
So in theory if I am not preg af should arrive in 5days which would be a random 27 day cycle
It's quite pink with a couple of spots of red normally starts of more of a beige colour then gets progressively pinker
Crap end to a crap day argh! Will not even consider it is IB bleeding I firmly the believe the cycle if/when I get pregnant there will be no IB

Don't lose hope. You won't spot for 10 days. If you O'd early you will spot earlier. As I said above I don't think spotting is a major concern. I spotted for 2 days last cycle before I got my BFP. For a while so much I thought I was Cd1 but then it stopped and BFP. I know it ended in a chemical but I don't think the spotting was linked to that. The spotting stopped 3/4 days before AF started. I'll keep everything crossed for you.

Joeys - How are you you? Not sure about the smileys. Maybe call you doc. As far as I understand it it's the first one which is important.

Daisy - Everything crossed for you this cycle. Maybe try and speak to doc about doing IUI at 24 and 36 or 24 and 48 post trigger?

AFM - first signs of EWCM. I expect it's going to lead to a false surge and no O but not going to presume. You never know!

 

[joeys3453]

morning ladies, bean i am doing pretty good still have cramps have had them since the iui. i am on the progesterone and estradiol had anyone taken those and have had to pee so many times and felt like your bladder was going to explode?

 

[sotiredmama]

Bean, thanks! LP is about 10 days (when I conceived before, it was 14). We've been TTC only a 3 mos, though. No BFing or BCPs in over a year. My cycles should be regular by now. I don't know ... I just told her when I first met with her that, if something is wrong, I want to gather as much info as possible now so I don't find myself still not pregnant next month and needing more tests then.

BUT I am pretty sure I O'd! Can you look at my chart and tell me what you think? I though I O'd yesterday, CD19 (I had +OPKs CD18/19) and lots of pelvic tenderness which stopped the moring of CD19 (I presumed it stopped when I O'd). However, the temps made a small jump starting CD19, and if I enter the same temp for tomorrow that I got today, FF gives me crosshairs on CD18! What do you think? Is it possible to get a +OPK AFTER you O?

My Ovulation Chart

Bean, good luck!
LLPM -- glad you O'd so much earlier! Sorry the DH is gone, though! That makes me think maybe I should try the B50 more consistently next month if we're not successful this time.
joeys -- I have no idea about the symptoms ad everything, but I'm excited for you! KMFX for you this month!

 

[joeys3453]

sotiredmama thank you and it looks like you could have possibly O'ed but i would wait a few more days to see if your temp goes up some more.

 

[DaisyQ]

Hate to read and run, but sotired, I would not assume O yet - you could possibly be O'ing today though. Do not stop BDing until you get a serious temp rise. All your temps so far are in the same range. You are looking for a 0.3 increase in temp, so like 97.8 or something might be a post O temp.

Bean, I am going to ask about IUIs at 24 and 48 hours.

 

[sotiredmama]

Daisy, thanks! That's what I thought too. I'm getting confused because, if my temp stays the same tomorrow, FF says I O'd on CD18. But FF isn't perfect, I know.

Also, we BD CD 18 and 19. Would you all suggest again tonight, or give the sperm a rest and BD CD 21? I'm not sure if it's a great idea to DTD 3 days in a row in terms of sperm production. Thoughts?

Thanks!