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[alicatt]

Did you mention the patches?

NO wasn't even aware I needed to change them today until about 10 minutes after the call, then of course I call and I get their after hours message So I'm not going to waste 4 patches, I only get 14 a month on my prescription and so far I've used 14. If I were to actually complete the cycle I would need more. So I definitely don't want to waste 4 today only to rip them off tomorrow.

I've basically decided that this cycle is 'pants' and we are going to have to start a new cycle and try again. This one didn't work well, better than last, but not good enough. That isn't good enough for me, so I want to just wait and try again next cycle for the trial. Either that or we just do the cycle as if it is real, and if it is looking good then I think maybe we skip the trial? IDK. Need to talk to the FS further.

 

[melly2]

Got my AF today. ** Fists in the air ** Damn you, hubby for not knocking me up! Hah! I have one zit on my chin and virtually no other PMS signs or symptoms. I am going to thank acupuncture for that. Nice! I am on exactly a 43 day cycle now. At least for the last two months. Not even sure what to make of that.

@ali - Hope you get some answers from your doctors soon. Ugh...waiting is so hard.

 

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Did you mention the patches?

NO wasn't even aware I needed to change them today until about 10 minutes after the call, then of course I call and I get their after hours message So I'm not going to waste 4 patches, I only get 14 a month on my prescription and so far I've used 14. If I were to actually complete the cycle I would need more. So I definitely don't want to waste 4 today only to rip them off tomorrow.

I've basically decided that this cycle is 'pants' and we are going to have to start a new cycle and try again. This one didn't work well, better than last, but not good enough. That isn't good enough for me, so I want to just wait and try again next cycle for the trial. Either that or we just do the cycle as if it is real, and if it is looking good then I think maybe we skip the trial? IDK. Need to talk to the FS further.

Hey I agree -- if your trial run is looking perfect then I say plant those babiesz!!

 

[alicatt]

Did you mention the patches?

NO wasn't even aware I needed to change them today until about 10 minutes after the call, then of course I call and I get their after hours message So I'm not going to waste 4 patches, I only get 14 a month on my prescription and so far I've used 14. If I were to actually complete the cycle I would need more. So I definitely don't want to waste 4 today only to rip them off tomorrow.

I've basically decided that this cycle is 'pants' and we are going to have to start a new cycle and try again. This one didn't work well, better than last, but not good enough. That isn't good enough for me, so I want to just wait and try again next cycle for the trial. Either that or we just do the cycle as if it is real, and if it is looking good then I think maybe we skip the trial? IDK. Need to talk to the FS further.

Hey I agree -- if your trial run is looking perfect then I say plant those babiesz!!

The only downside is not getting the scrape done. The scrape is supposed to help make your lining happier, and thicker and more receptive to implantation. Just doing the biopsy itself is supposed to do that. So you do the biopsy and then it heals and makes your uterine lining nicer and the following month you have a nice lining. So then I think maybe we should just do the lining biopsy this time and then do things better next time? IDK?

 

[Grey Eyes]

It's alot to think about! Have you discussed it with your doc?? Or does he not have 5 minutes? lol

 

[alicatt]

It's alot to think about! Have you discussed it with your doc?? Or does he not have 5 minutes? lol

He will discuss and explain things, but only if I ask the right questions.
Right now he doesn't have the info and nor do I so I don't know what the issue is. Do I need more estrogen? Do we need to take a break and let my body recover? Do we need to add lupron to
force my body into submission? Do we just move forward with this cycle to do the biopsy and then fix things with lupron next cycle?
I will get the answers!!! LOL!

I think I'm going to have garlic bread, and ice cream for dinner and wash it down with a rum and coke!

 

[never_give_up]

Ali I think you should just do the lining biopsy this time. I know it's difficult for you to have to wait again when it isn't your fault. But I think you want things to be perfect. Those embryos are precious We want them to stick!

Sam I was going to say the same as Ali about waiting to do ivf again.

Coy that doctor wasn't very nice. Tonsil stones are caused by tonsilitis and he said you are not sick? ppft..Well you could pop them out yourself. I did that several times when I was a kid. TMI warning. The smell is pretty gross because it is inflamation. Yes I think I had a blighted ovum this time. The first miscarriage we had a fetal pole so I think the quality of our embryos is getting worse. I asked the OB how they can analyse chromosomes when there was only a sac and placenta. She said they only need to get some live cells. I don't know

 

[Babywhisperer]

It's alot to think about! Have you discussed it with your doc?? Or does he not have 5 minutes? lol

He will discuss and explain things, but only if I ask the right questions.
Right now he doesn't have the info and nor do I so I don't know what the issue is. Do I need more estrogen? Do we need to take a break and let my body recover? Do we need to add lupron to
force my body into submission? Do we just move forward with this cycle to do the biopsy and then fix things with lupron next cycle?
I will get the answers!!! LOL!

I think I'm going to have garlic bread, and ice cream for dinner and wash it down with a rum and coke!

Ali does your Dr have a back up dr that can go over your tests? Sorry you have to wait, how frustrating.

Coy, how is dh feeling? Any help at the dr?

Melly, sorry about the witch. Enjoy some coffee, wine and sushi!!

Afm, headache city. Borderline migraine, got chills and felt like I was going to hurl. Fluorescent lights and 3 monitors on my computer don't help. I went for acupuncture and it took the edge off. I start the progesterone supps tonight oh joy. Boobs and nips still hurt, I'm constipated like crazy and just hope this gets better as the Ovidrel leaves my system.

How is everyone else?

 

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[Samsfan]

Alicatt- I have my WTF appointment on april 10th. I can't take the tea... its gross. So my only thing is getting exercise. That's what I need to do and lose some weight. I have all these left over drugs, so I hope my protocol is similar. I can't wait to do it again... I just don't want to wait. I can't believe how the time flies.

How is your lobster body doing? and sorry for your wait.

Chantal- I don't know if I missed a post, but did they test the sac?

Coy- I had one of those stones come out last year. I was away in the sun and salt water and all of a sudden I coughed up one. Gross!

AFM- I can't seem to get my temp in the am and I can't seem to exercise. What is wrong with me!

Coy... Aeryn is GORGEOUS. Look at her big eyes. The baskets look great. I hope she gets better and doesnt have to get her tonsils out. The weather sounds real nice there. It feels like 25 degrees here. Yuck.

Phil. I agree with Ali. I know liability is an issue, but here they would have seen her. By shoulda coulda woulda.

Alicatt... Sorry for the wait. Everyone told me about this wait, but I dodnt believe them. Its like the months get lost, but the time is so slow.

Chantal. Take your time and pray on what is next.

Afm. So girls I cant decide... Do I go for another round of ivf later this month or wait till next month. I dont know what is best. I havent done anything to help my body. Jo exercise I am eating better, but no weight loss. I did start taking the royal jelly, ginko and im doing the acupuncture. I wonder if my AMH has chnaged? Im relying on you because dont know what I should do.

Morning Sams!

Medically speaking you should be doing these things for 3 months. Your eggs take a full 3 months to mature from when the follicle becomes an antral follicle to when it develops and potentially becomes the follicle you ovulate from (in a normal cycle). I think I waited almost that long between cycles I had my first IVF at the end of September and had my second at the end of December. I made a lot of changes, but made them slowly, so probably the most important ones I only started in the last 6 weeks before the second IVF.

At a minimum I think you need to skip 1 cycle possibly even 2. Your FS will likely suggest that. He wants to get your body back to normal, and get the medications out of your system. That is necessary before they start again.

Have you had your WTF appt yet? Have they considered how they can better tailor your protocol to suit you better? That is something you will want to discuss with him. If there is anything they can do to improve your egg quality, and quantity, as well as if there is anything they think your DH should be doing. Maybe your acupuncturist has some herbs your DH can take?

I know how anxious you are to get moving!!! I'm in the same boat. The best thing though it to relax, let your body recover, and take your supplements, and wait!

AFM - I managed to get some sleep even with my lobster body, and sad mind. I found this ingenious aloe with lidocaine and menthol, it worked wonders!! As so many have said, the delays are to ensure we get this perfect, and I have to believe there is a bigger reason for them as well, that somehow this is all in God's hands.

 

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[never_give_up]

Coy that doctor is weird for saying you gave your dd's the bacteria. You would have known if you had a tonsil stone 7 years ago. It makes it hard to swallow when you have one. It could be genetic but I doubt it was transmitted through breast milk!

Sam I understand how you feel about exercising. I usually do at least 40 mins yoga daily and since I got my bfp I haven't done any exercise other than walk I have zero energy and I look more pregnant now then I did a few weeks ago. dh teased me asking where did my 6-pack abs disappear to? I pointed to his belly and said to him"I still have a ways to go to catch up with you"
I didn't think they had done the chromosome testing because there wasn't enough contents to send to the lab I overheard the doctor say. Then when I went to OB she said she was waiting on chromosome test results to come back. I told her what I overheard the doctor say. She said they still can analyse cells from the gestational sac and placenta if they were still alive. I am not holding my breath.
So dh and i got back our results from our wellness screening and my triglycerides were 131 and dh's were 278! We eat the same but our bodies process cholesterol so differently! Must be genetic. Everything for me was optimal but his said he should see his doctor. They said my BMI of 17.1 was dangerously out of range If it is so bad then why are all my glucose and cholesterol levels optimal? Makes no sense. Dh is jealous. He wants to swap results.

 

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[alicatt]

I'm going to ask my FS about neupogen, there have been studies that show it helps with lining issues and also with NK cells
I ate some garlic bread and now there is no room for ice cream!!! I want my ice cream!

 

[never_give_up]

tonsil stones are a pain. Mine left holes in my tonsils where they repeatedly formed and they got bigger till my ent decided to remove them. I don't miss them at all. I can also swallow huge supplements no problem lol

I got the impression the lab was in the same hospital i had my d & c done because the doctor said she didn't send it down to the lab. However I was 9 weeks 4 days and gest sac stopped growing at 5 weeks 5 days. I would imagine they had faded by then.

 

[never_give_up]

Hi Ali That would be great if that new med helped with both your lining and NK cells.
I am sure you have room for a tbsp of icecream

Has anyone ever used castor oil pack for uterus? I am thinking maybe I need to try it because I keep getting this cramping in my uterus.

 

[alicatt]

Hi Ali That would be great if that new med helped with both your lining and NK cells.
I am sure you have room for a tbsp of icecream

Has anyone ever used castor oil pack for uterus? I am thinking maybe I need to try it because I keep getting this cramping in my uterus.

My acupuncturist said something about the castor oil pack to aid in getting the uterine lining to thicken!

 

[never_give_up]

thanks Ali. I will buy some since with my uterine lining I am starting from scratch. It should help build it up along with the chinese herbs. I finished the antibiotics a few days ago so now I can take them. Acupuncturist said not to mix western and eastern medicine. I am starting back my yoga and pilates today. Hopefully I will stop feeling so tired all the time.

Wishing everyone a great day!