Welcome to 'Trying To Conceive Over 35'

[alicatt]

Ali I am sorry that you have to take the lupron and that everything is delayed. I dislike lupron too Your have to endure alot, seems the meds you end up having to take are always the ones that give you migraines But you did say there is still a chance that it is an old corpus luteum. Don't give up hope yet! Delayed but not denied Ali. Just remember that. I know it is frustrating though
Babywhisperer is right. We make plans and God always makes things happen on His time. I would have prefered to get pregnant the month after I got back from Barbados. Between the bumpy plane ride and my Mom stressing me out with her mood swings. Maybe God wanted our little bean to visit Barbados since He knew he/she wasn't going to be able to go in person.

Yes you are right dh is stubborn. He was born in the year of the Ox they are very stubborn! Well I told him I am rushing to that clinic because I am still mad at them for ignoring me when I got my bfp. He was like what the heck did you want them to do? You weren't a patient of their and you hadn't done ivf. I told him that you didn;'t think I was crazy for thinking that way and actually agreed with me for feeling that way. He said on you women always stick together lol

I know, I just need to get used to the fact that I might have to wait another month I'm not good at being patient, just ask my Mom I am one of those people that once they set their mind on doing something they just go do it. So having to wait for another cycle is like torture to me! Maybe I will get good news tomorrow and we won't have to delay? It is possible, but I know O pains, and that is what I was having on Sat.

Well I wasn't looking at it from any perspective other than the fact that you got pregnant, and needed additional support for the baby. You had been a previous patient there, and they had treated you for this exact thing not long ago. So why wouldn't they want to help I mean sure they couldn't do much, and I'm sure you would have had to pay out of pocket for some of the US if you had more than the 1-2 that insurance would cover. They would have gotten you on normal dose progesterone supplements and I'm sure the RE/FS would have had a more trained eye to see if things were progressing as they should or they were falling behind. Just my opinion.

For that exact reason though I would hesitate to go back there. IF they weren't willing to help you when you did get pregnant, what kind of clinic are they? IE. maybe they are just in it for the money and aren't interested in actually getting women pregnant. As I said before, a clinic that boasts it has high fertility rates isn't always the best one to choose. That is like going to a restaurant that has people holding signs out front saying worlds best pizza (even though it is 3x the price of the crowded restaurant next door). Makes you go HMMM If they are so proud of their rates then you should ask them their success rates for women over 40. I bet they hmmm and haw about that. Or maybe you should ask even more specially about their success rates with women over 40 and DE?

As BabyW said, and I tried to say but didn't say well, give your DH time to digest the information, maybe go and get some other quotes and rates for other clinics and when he is ready to talk again, discuss the other things you have found.

 

[never_give_up]

Ali I need to go pick up dh from work soon. Yes you are right. I will just let him think about it. I am in no rush to start seeing doctors again anyway.

Wishing you all a nice evening!

 

[alicatt]

Ali I need to go pick up dh from work soon. Yes you are right. I will just let him think about it. I am in no rush to start seeing doctors again anyway.

Wishing you all a nice evening!

I hear you! Give yourself some time to relax. You will know when you are ready again!

Have a good evening, I'm about to head out myself. It is pouring rain and thundering out, not sure the roads will be that easy to navigate. Plus my head is killing me! I need to stop and get some aloe and some dog food. Then I am literally thinking about crawling into bed! I'm just feeling that crappy

 

[Grey Eyes]

Twiggers- he used both the injectable (Big Azz Shot, lol) testosterone and the topical Androgel.

Melly- glad you are at peace! Ya gotta be in this business It'll all happen for you one way or another

Ali- how dare you post pics of the beach?! lol! Naughty ovaries! not supposed to hatch out just yet----how would all this effect anything if you are, um, planting and not harvesting??

Sams- I say sleeeeeep! If you can - sleep. Once you have a baby sleep is but a fond, albeit bittersweet, memory

Phil- aw, thanks for the pic! Babes seems to like your kitty and vise versa Too cute! That's one way of keeping her swaddled lol And how cool are you to let your dd go on a school tri[ to Germany??!! You are AWESOME!!

Chantal- in a way I agree w/your dh...on the clinic anyway. Success rate does say a lot about the clinic. However, there are times when another clinic may see things from a different perspective, iykwim? Re:seeing the urologist---is his count low, or...? I am trying to remember. Btw- with no fetal pole, isn't that a blighted ovum? I think that's what my first mc was (just a sac) and my cousin had twin blighted ovum

 

[Philomena]

Ali I am sorry that you have to take the lupron and that everything is delayed. I dislike lupron too Your have to endure alot, seems the meds you end up having to take are always the ones that give you migraines But you did say there is still a chance that it is an old corpus luteum. Don't give up hope yet! Delayed but not denied Ali. Just remember that. I know it is frustrating though
Babywhisperer is right. We make plans and God always makes things happen on His time. I would have prefered to get pregnant the month after I got back from Barbados. Between the bumpy plane ride and my Mom stressing me out with her mood swings. Maybe God wanted our little bean to visit Barbados since He knew he/she wasn't going to be able to go in person.

Yes you are right dh is stubborn. He was born in the year of the Ox they are very stubborn! Well I told him I am rushing to that clinic because I am still mad at them for ignoring me when I got my bfp. He was like what the heck did you want them to do? You weren't a patient of their and you hadn't done ivf. I told him that you didn;'t think I was crazy for thinking that way and actually agreed with me for feeling that way. He said on you women always stick together lol

I know, I just need to get used to the fact that I might have to wait another month I'm not good at being patient, just ask my Mom I am one of those people that once they set their mind on doing something they just go do it. So having to wait for another cycle is like torture to me! Maybe I will get good news tomorrow and we won't have to delay? It is possible, but I know O pains, and that is what I was having on Sat.

Well I wasn't looking at it from any perspective other than the fact that you got pregnant, and needed additional support for the baby. You had been a previous patient there, and they had treated you for this exact thing not long ago. So why wouldn't they want to help I mean sure they couldn't do much, and I'm sure you would have had to pay out of pocket for some of the US if you had more than the 1-2 that insurance would cover. They would have gotten you on normal dose progesterone supplements and I'm sure the RE/FS would have had a more trained eye to see if things were progressing as they should or they were falling behind. Just my opinion.

For that exact reason though I would hesitate to go back there. IF they weren't willing to help you when you did get pregnant, what kind of clinic are they? IE. maybe they are just in it for the money and aren't interested in actually getting women pregnant. As I said before, a clinic that boasts it has high fertility rates isn't always the best one to choose. That is like going to a restaurant that has people holding signs out front saying worlds best pizza (even though it is 3x the price of the crowded restaurant next door). Makes you go HMMM If they are so proud of their rates then you should ask them their success rates for women over 40. I bet they hmmm and haw about that. Or maybe you should ask even more specially about their success rates with women over 40 and DE?

As BabyW said, and I tried to say but didn't say well, give your DH time to digest the information, maybe go and get some other quotes and rates for other clinics and when he is ready to talk again, discuss the other things you have found.

Just a quick response because a couple of you have brought up the question of when Chantal got pregnant spontaneously why the fertility clinic wouldn't see her, and the answer is simple but not fair... it's strictly a liability issue. It's the same reason doctor's won't do post-surgical follow up if they weren't the surgeon. Especially being in the states, they would be very careful not to get involved with a spontaneous pregnancy they had nothing to do with. I do think the nurse should have at least called her back and directed her as to who to see, but honestly, its simply down to liability.

 

[Grey Eyes]

AFM- hm. Yesterday was fun in a loud, raucous sort of way dd's liked their baskets...Aeryn was like "Meh" when I showed her the little bunny she got but when she saw Sesame Street Babies book her eyes lit up and she started to shake all over! She is extremely excited about picture books

So, it seems Kats throat is totally clear now but dh thought he saw a speck on T's tonsil this morning so we will have to wait and see. I am giving her colloidal silver and Echinacea. They did play outside yesterday but it was calm, sunny, and 60'some degrees F--so if they get spotty tonsils from playing in the sunshine the tonsils gotta go! We'll see what develops.

AFM (for reals, lol) I went to see doc today...a different doctor this time as I am more than a little peeved our regular doc missed Kats heart murmur Anyway this new guy looked at my throat and said "you're not sick, you just have a tonsil stone." Yay! He said it will express on its own, or I can do it, and it is probably residual from the past infection Yay!

 

[alicatt]

Phil - interesting perspective. I'm not sure that would be too much of an issue here. A fertility specialist here normally looks after high risk pregnancies during the first few weeks until they 'graduate' to regular OB. Seeing as though she had a history with that Dr, I think they should have been able to see her. I had to sign a whole bunch of stuff to see my FS, so I would assume that any liability issue would be covered in those documents. But maybe you are right? Either way I do agree with you, they should have at least called back!

I'm pretty sure my FS would see me, granted I'd be paying out of pocket for anything that they couldn't put through insurance as regular pregnancy type stuff, but I would have wanted to do what Chantal did and get the extra care that she would have gotten if she'd gotten pregnant with the FS. Again, it goes down to poor communication skills at the FS office between their staff and between the staff and patients.

 

[Grey Eyes]

Peeping eyes

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Sleepy baby
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Aeryn playing peekaboo under her pillow
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My homemade baskets
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[alicatt]

Beautiful pictures of Aeryn!!! Love the Easter basket too, I'm glad your DD's had a great day yesterday!

EEK about the tonsil stone! My coworker had one over Christmas, thought it was a strange thing then but 2 people I know having stones at the same time? Crazy! I hope you are feeling better!!

AFM.. was so tired and now I can't sleep! ARGH!

So now I'm staring at the ceiling..

 

[Samsfan]

Coy... Aeryn is GORGEOUS. Look at her big eyes. The baskets look great. I hope she gets better and doesnt have to get her tonsils out. The weather sounds real nice there. It feels like 25 degrees here. Yuck.

Phil. I agree with Ali. I know liability is an issue, but here they would have seen her. By shoulda coulda woulda.

Alicatt... Sorry for the wait. Everyone told me about this wait, but I dodnt believe them. Its like the months get lost, but the time is so slow.

Chantal. Take your time and pray on what is next.

Afm. So girls I cant decide... Do I go for another round of ivf later this month or wait till next month. I dont know what is best. I havent done anything to help my body. Jo exercise I am eating better, but no weight loss. I did start taking the royal jelly, ginko and im doing the acupuncture. I wonder if my AMH has chnaged? Im relying on you because dont know what I should do.

 

[alicatt]

Coy... Aeryn is GORGEOUS. Look at her big eyes. The baskets look great. I hope she gets better and doesnt have to get her tonsils out. The weather sounds real nice there. It feels like 25 degrees here. Yuck.

Phil. I agree with Ali. I know liability is an issue, but here they would have seen her. By shoulda coulda woulda.

Alicatt... Sorry for the wait. Everyone told me about this wait, but I dodnt believe them. Its like the months get lost, but the time is so slow.

Chantal. Take your time and pray on what is next.

Afm. So girls I cant decide... Do I go for another round of ivf later this month or wait till next month. I dont know what is best. I havent done anything to help my body. Jo exercise I am eating better, but no weight loss. I did start taking the royal jelly, ginko and im doing the acupuncture. I wonder if my AMH has chnaged? Im relying on you because dont know what I should do.

Morning Sams!

Medically speaking you should be doing these things for 3 months. Your eggs take a full 3 months to mature from when the follicle becomes an antral follicle to when it develops and potentially becomes the follicle you ovulate from (in a normal cycle). I think I waited almost that long between cycles I had my first IVF at the end of September and had my second at the end of December. I made a lot of changes, but made them slowly, so probably the most important ones I only started in the last 6 weeks before the second IVF.

At a minimum I think you need to skip 1 cycle possibly even 2. Your FS will likely suggest that. He wants to get your body back to normal, and get the medications out of your system. That is necessary before they start again.

Have you had your WTF appt yet? Have they considered how they can better tailor your protocol to suit you better? That is something you will want to discuss with him. If there is anything they can do to improve your egg quality, and quantity, as well as if there is anything they think your DH should be doing. Maybe your acupuncturist has some herbs your DH can take?

I know how anxious you are to get moving!!! I'm in the same boat. The best thing though it to relax, let your body recover, and take your supplements, and wait!

AFM - I managed to get some sleep even with my lobster body, and sad mind. I found this ingenious aloe with lidocaine and menthol, it worked wonders!! As so many have said, the delays are to ensure we get this perfect, and I have to believe there is a bigger reason for them as well, that somehow this is all in God's hands.

 

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[Solstyce]

Is it ok to join this group at 34? I'll be 35 in November so will definitely be 35 if/when I deliver.

 

[alicatt]

Hi ladies-super short post for now.....

No school today-maybe gimme time to get ahead

Dh is sick today and I have to take T to see new doc this evening.....

Oh no! What is wrong with DH? I guess the spots reappeared on T? Poor thing! Poor you! Tell everyone that we insist they get better now!!!

 

[Grey Eyes]

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[alicatt]

Is it ok to join this group at 34? I'll be 35 in November so will definitely be 35 if/when I deliver.

Yay! Welcome Solstyce!

Welcome Solstyce, here's a little to help you along!

 

[alicatt]

AFM - So my FS office calls to tell me the FS is out of the office and can't look at my blood work until tomorrow so they can't tell me what it is! I'm like you can't leave me in suspense like that for another day!!! NOOOO
I was like can you tell me if my P4 was over 10? She said, well it doesn't look like you ovulated, but she can't really say for sure if they are going to continue this cycle or not So I have to wait, but the nurse who is really cool said she would call me first thing tomorrow.

I didn't ovulate, but I guess my estrogen was not high enough? I can't figure out what is going on with my estrogen It has always been super high in the past, so what on earth is going on? Stupid body

 

[Grey Eyes]

Ahh! I sometimes hate doctos and their lack of information!

 

[alicatt]

Ahh! I sometimes hate doctos and their lack of information!

Well in this case it is the nurse. I'm like why did you call me if you couldn't tell me anything? AHHHHHH. On top of it I was supposed to start another 4 patches today, and I don't want to waste 4 if I'm just going to rip them off tomorrow morning.