We're all in this together!

[sarahuk]

Laura - Oh I'll definetly be putting a complaint in hun if it gets worse, not being on bedrest because they can't do their jobs properly! Awesome cake chick! Karl said he wants one He loves Spiderman, Superman, Batman etc xxx

Sarah - Best way chick, have a nice chilled out day and watch some DVD's or something Love the tickers by the way Yay for Crochet blanket!! It's lovely hun! Looks like it took lot's of time and effort xxx

Pinky - How are you doing chick? xxx

Jess - How are you hun? Not heard from you for a few days xxx

KT - Hope you are doing well hunni xxx

Thanks hun! Ye it was a bit fiddly at points Am catching up on my soaps...boring day for me today! x

Hope youre ok darlin! x

 

[sarahuk]

Hehe thanks ladies my cousin kept going and staring at it lol Sarah no way am I making my wedding cake lol I'd bake it but not decorate it, I'd be too upset if I ballsed it up lol

Blankets gorgeous Sarah and perfect for swaddling with the shape of it! Xxx

Every cake youve ever posted a picture of has been absolutely gorgeous Youd never balls it up! x

 

[xXxJessicaxXx]

WWWWWOOOOOOHHHOOOOOOO CONGRATULATION'S Sarah Well Happy for you, FX'd baby get's snug as a bug, and you have a wonderful H&H 9 month's. x x x

Pinky and KT FX'd for this cycle hope you both get your BFP's too. x x x

Thx pinky for telling me, I didn't know that about there refferal just prove's how shit my doctor's is. x x x

 

[sarahuk]

Thanks Jess Hope youre ok x

 

[Laura2806]

Aww thanks Sarah I think id worry too much and mess it up through stress lol

How you doing jess? Xxx

 

[xXxJessicaxXx]

Your welcome sarah, and im good thx girlie's, thx for asking. My fiance said to me the other night that if I dont get help from the doctor or pregnant before christmas then his gonna buy me clomid after christmas because ATM all our money now goe's toward's christmas for my little princess and our family's prezzie's, I know it's not for another 4 month's but We have big family's so have to start really early on prezzie's and christmas will be hear in no time. But Even though it's a while away, That actually made me feel alot better but I do hope I get my BFP before then. x x x

 

[Laura2806]

Bless him, fingers crossed you won't need the clomid tho Hun, I know what you mean about Christmas! We're gonna start shopping before long, we do the voucher schemes where you pay all year round tho so we'll be getting them end of octoberish, so we'll make a list of what to get people and go get it almost in one go xx

 

[sarahuk]

Your welcome sarah, and im good thx girlie's, thx for asking. My fiance said to me the other night that if I dont get help from the doctor or pregnant before christmas then his gonna buy me clomid after christmas because ATM all our money now goe's toward's christmas for my little princess and our family's prezzie's, I know it's not for another 4 month's but We have big family's so have to start really early on prezzie's and christmas will be hear in no time. But Even though it's a while away, That actually made me feel alot better but I do hope I get my BFP before then. x x x

Jess be careful. You cant buy clomid in this country and every website is linked to a company in India that packages and distrubutes pills under the label of clomid.

Problem is more often than not, you find that its not actually clomid that you are being given. Infact, I know a woman who bought clomid from what she believed was a reputable seller and the pills made her ill. Turned out it wasnt clomid.

I know its not easy, but if you ask me, youd be better off staying clear of buying something that 1) you dont know what it is 2) hasnt been prescribed.

You dont want to be in a position where you take these pills and bugger things up. Cos trust me...what you think youre getting, in reality youre not.

I went through a stage where I was very almost buying it myself. But when i read the reports by doctors about the impacts of this stuff...trust me chick...youre gambling with way too much for it to pay off.

Side note..the women i know that bought it didnt get their bfps from it either.

Its your decision totally...but I think it would be a bad call chick. Youre still young, once youre 23 youll be in the bracker for a fertility referral. I think ud be better off carrying on trying till then, and then get the proper help. Not these fake pills that are playing on womens depressions and insecurities.

x

 

[sarahuk]

Jess:

Heres some info for you hun you might want to consider:


* At best what you buy could actually just be talcum powder - which won't do any harm but certainly won't help you get pregnant - or at worst we have heard of a case where the purchased drug contained bleach which led to the woman who bought the 'drug' being hospitalised.

* Wrong use. even if you are lucky enough to be one that gets an actual dose with some clomid included can overstimulate the ovaries or lead to formation of cysts which can interfere with conception and hinder a healthy pregnancy.

* The sale of medicines in the UK is regulated by the Medicines Act of 1968 but online suppliers can come from anywhere in the world, often from countries such as Peru or Thailand where no such legislation exists. So if you find yourself the victim of a fraud - ie you've made a payment but haven't received your package or you have been supplied with a fake drug - you will have no protection if you have been dealing with a company in countries with no legal agreements with the UK.

* A woman bought Clomid online and the dangers of doing so - she ended up with an ectopic pregnancy and the removal of her right tube as she had no need for the medication but took it anyway and caused this kind of issue.

* if you order from overseas, they may be seized by customs to which no delivery will be made.

* If Clomid is not taken under medical supervision and if it’s taken under wrong diagnosis, Clomid can cause permanent infertility, it can cause liver failure and finally can put your life at risk! (Quoted from doctor).

* The drug is prescribed for inducing ovulation. As you ovulate, clearly from your charts, there is no benefit to be had from taking clomid.

These are just a few off the first 2 pages I opened on the subject. Theres thousands of women posting on the issue or doctors writing about it.

x

 

[xXxJessicaxXx]

Owwww laura sound's good hun, is there a website so I can find out more lol. ow and thx sweetie. x x x

Sarah hun I understand what your saying and know you mean well, But I found these online....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clomid-C...t=AU_Exercise_Accessories&hash=item3f1b634ea3

They look the part and say there from the uk, but Im going to speak to my doctor first cause im gonna ask her if she will prescribe me them and if not then I'll tell her im thinking of buying them online and need some advice. She may say the same as you but it's worth a try to get the help. Right. x x x

Owww and the info, but I know the danger's of this and that's why im gonna tell my doctor if she doe's not wanna help me. I know I ovulate but other women in the uk get prescribed clomid to help them concieve (even though they ovulate or even women with kids by the same partner because iv spoke to people online). But that's not my point, I just wish I had a good doctor's. But got an appointment next tuesday with my women doctor so hopefully thing's go well and I wanna get down to the bottom of my fiance's SA result's as I think my last doctor is lieing. As I really think he is. x x x thank's again hun. x x x

 

[sarahuk]

Jess,

Doctors are not able to prescribe clomid in this country as it is a fertility drug. Yes they give it to people that ovulate, but youll generally find that those poeple suffer with ovulatory conditions like PCOS.

If your OH has a problem with his sperm analysis u could try and push for a referral from his side rather than yours.

Im sorry hun , but is ILLEGAL in the UK to sell clomid online, and I dont think that any reputable company would be selling on ebay.

Its also a scam post. They put the money value in as australian dollars, and posted the locasted as manchester. Clearly not something you should trust. And when they right stuff like "Dont loose your new gains and safe gaurd your natural test."...that should tell you everything. Not written by anyone english.

I know your frustrated Jess but clomid is for ovulation problems, not to give you extra help trying to conceive. You dont have problems and with that part alone youre risking major problems with your ovaries.

Your doctor will tell you that it would be a massive mistake to buy them online, and it is. For one, if your oh has problems with his sperm counts then its likely that right there is the issue and not with you. Do you really want to risk making yourself infertile because youre inpatient chick?

I dont mean that to sound harsh, but you still have avenues to explore that dont include taking drugs you dont need and dont know what it is. I am concerned for you thats all. I know just as well as you do after 2 years and 9 months and no kid, how hard it is and how we want to do whatever it takes to get to the end result. But if you want a kid so much, would you really be prepared to risk ever having children again rather than see a proper specialist who will help you find a way forward?

x

 

[Pinky32]

Gowgus cake laura - I think you should def think about your own cake - think how special it would make it x

Sarah - omg thats luverly xxx

Jess - did you ever ask your doc when you could be referred?

 

[Pinky32]

OMG i gonna say this straight

are you fucking mad jess! how can you think an advert on ebay is legit for clomid? Saying they look the part doesnt make them legit and if their in UK why is their price in australian dollar? How do you know what strength to take? when to take?

Speak to your doc and ask when they will refer you and what can be done in the meantime

I understand your frustration but are you willing to risk everything

If they were easy to buy and reputable dont you think we all would have got them ages ago

Your doc wont prescribe them - only an FS can - and each persons dose is different depending on their results of tests

Being really blunt (n I dont mean to sound rude) but you said in past that you keep forgetting to take folic acid and only gave vitamins a short try - you need to give vits a minimum of three months to build up

 

[xXxJessicaxXx]

Pinky I could the place that fund the NHS, PCT and they told me I would never be reffered unless they had a change in there critiria to accept women with children. I said not ever after 3 year's or longer she said NO like I said not unless they change the critiria and she said that wont be any time soon either. So I pretty much got put on my arse there. That's when I felt the lowested. Iv called blenty of place's to see if I am able to be funded to see a fertiltiy specialist and they all sai the same, I even rang my local fertility clinic they said the same. I just feel all alone on this one with no help or care from my doctor what so ever. But there are women in the uk with kid's from the same partner that there ttc with that have been reffered to specialist and had test's done and got treatment. But I feel like im being punished. x x x

Thx for caring hun, You may not be my doctor but the advice and surpport is lovely &
Thx I understand hun, just had a good old research and sound's like a really bad idea even if it was prescribed there are so many danger's I.E

Sideeffects
A medicine is only made available to the public if the
clinical trials have shown that the benefits of taking
the medicine outweigh the risks.
Once a medicine has been licensed, information on
the medicine's effects, both intended and
unintended, is continuously recorded and updated.
Some sideeffects
may be serious while others may
only be a mild inconvenience.
Everyone's reaction to a medicine is different. It is
difficult to predict which sideeffects
you will have
from taking a particular medicine, or whether you
will have any sideeffects
at all. The important thing
is to tell your prescriber or pharmacist if you are
having problems with your medicine.
Very common: More than 1 in 10 people who take
Clomifene citrate
• enlargement of the ovary
• flushing
Common: More than 1 in 100 people who take
Clomifene citrate
• bleeding in between menstrual periods
• breast discomfort
• distension, bloating or discomfort of the
stomach seek
medical advice if you get any
pain, discomfort or bloating of the stomach
• eye or eyesight problems such as blurring,
seeing spots or flashes in front of the eyes seek
medical advice if you develop any eye
or eyesight problems
• headaches
• heavy or painful menstrual periods
• nausea
• pelvic pain seek
medical advice if you get
any pain in the pelvis
• vomiting
Uncommon: More than 1 in 1000 people who take
Clomifene citrate
• depression
• difficulty sleeping
• feeling dizzy
• feeling lightheaded
• feeling nervous
• feelings of tension
• tiredness
• vertigo
The frequency of these sideeffects
is unknown
• abortion
• allergic reactions
• angioedema
• birth defects in babies
• bleeding from the ovary
• cancer of the ovary
• central nervous system problems
• cerebrovascular problems
• convulsions
• deep vein thrombosis
• dermatitis
• ectopic pregnancy
• endometriosis or worsening of endometriosis
• erythema multiforme
• fainting or brief loss of consciousness
• feelings of disorientation
• heart problems
• hormone sensitive tumours or worsening of
hormone sensitive tumours
• increase in the size of fibroids in the uterus
• jaundice
• kidney problems
• liver problems
• lung problems
• multiple pregnancies
• neurological problems
• oedema
• ovarian cyst
• ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome
• ovarian pain
• ovarian problems
• psychosis or psychoticlike
behaviour
• pulmonary oedema
• respiratory distress
• skin rash or rashes
• speech problems
• still birth
• stroke
• thinning of the hair
• unexplained or unexpected bruising
• urticaria
• weight gain seek
medical advice if you gain
weight

 

[xXxJessicaxXx]

I know, that's why Iv decided it's a NONO pinky. but thx anyway. x x x

I dont miss my vitamin's at all and havent done for a while now been on EPO, and folic acid for over 5 moth's now and they haven't done shit, thats over 3 month's straight and still nothink. x x x

 

[sarahuk]

Yeah but Jess...the point is they are over the age of 23. tharts all you need. Then you can be referred for review.

Pinky...agree 10000% with everything youve said.

Ive also reported those tablets to Ebay. Its against ebay policy to sell prescription meds and is a huge danger to peoples health.

 

[sarahuk]

I know, that's why Iv decided it's a NONO pinky. but thx anyway. x x x

I dont miss my vitamin's at all and havent done for a while now been on EPO, and folic acid for over 5 moth's now and they haven't done shit, thats over 3 month's straight and still nothink. x x x

Theres a lot more you can try

You can try vitamin b
vitamin b complex
raspberry leaf tea
agnus castus
Selenium
rosehip
1000g vitamin c

Etc etc Folic acid wont help, thats for whe youre actually pregnant. Epo will only show any work on your cm around ovulation. The other stuff helps with your cycles and strengthening egg. The two vits your taking you can add a lot more too.

 

[Excalibur]

Sarah - It sure looks like it was fiddly but you did an amazing job chick. Great minds think alike, we missed most of the soaps last week so that's what me and Karl have just done, caught up on the soaps on ITV Player I'm good thank you hunni, so happy for you xxx

 

[sarahuk]

About the funding Jess...you wont be funded for IVF should you need it correct...but everyone is entitled to fertility investigation whether they wqualify or not. I dont qualify for ivf either but i quaify for all that comes before it.

Once you hit 23 you hit the minimum age requirement. Atm you dont fit the criteria because of your age...but you will x

 

[sarahuk]

Sarah - It sure looks like it was fiddly but you did an amazing job chick. Great minds think alike, we missed most of the soaps last week so that's what me and Karl have just done, caught up on the soaps on ITV Player I'm good thank you hunni, so happy for you xxx

Hehe i wish matt would watch em with me!!

I get so bored when on catchup though...i watch two and im ready to do something else hehe

x