33 yrs young ttc#1...need buddies:)

[Squig34]

Great news that your little frostie made it and is safely inside of you! Lots and lots of for you, GL, FX and all the rest!

 

[dovkav123]

Panda, I hope this is it!
I am so sorry that you went through a nightmare. I hope you'll forget all this soon and in two weeks you'll tell us a great news. I hope and pray the little one will snuggle in cozy and strong.

We have done sperm dna test and the results should be in 2-3 weeks. What should we do now? I have an appointment on Friday for u/s on CD8.
My dr. wants us to wait till the results. She doesn't have a treatment for a high fragm sperm anyways. We are doing for our own peace and mind. If we do IVF and we get lucky than we did dna test for nothing...
His morfology improved from 5% to 19% last month. Motility improved from20% to 30%. He is on the normal range. I think we need to do IVF and hope that the sperm is still in good shape for the April cycle. Antioxidants, more sex and less alchohol and less stress helped a lot for his sperm quality.
This time during IVF I'll ask my dr. to test my hormones during egg retrieval and after embryo transfer. Maybe I need extra help for my TWW.

 

[Squig34]

It seems reasonable to suggest waiting for the results, Dovkav, so that if there is a problem, you can get a suitable plan, and if not, you can decide what to do next. Glad that your DH's improved, and it seems like there's no harm in you getting some extra testing in case you do need some help in the TWW. Better to have everything checked and to know what the situation is!

 

[ttcbabyisom]

panda, I am very sorry about the outcome. Why? What happened?
Where was endo? How dr. could see endo on the u/s?
Hoping and praying those eggs will develop to beautiful blasts.

I got BFN 14 dpiui. I tested with digital clearblue. Should be 96% acurate.
I Called my clinic for a sperm dna fragm test.
I reduced my progesterone to 100mg in case, and just waiting for AF.
my hubby wants to do another IUI. I had enough, we need to go back to IVF.

Sorry sweetie.
Hang in there!

 

[ttcbabyisom]

so no eggs fertilized, totally devastated. we check back tomorrow but hopes are not high. we will not even get a transfer. we were told we could use the frozen egg but since there's possible inflammation going on, we decided to wait.

my doctor believes that signs of endo were actually just that my body had tried to ovulate already. my estrogen had dropped again and there was some blood in the fluid around the ovary but she thinks that was my body trying to ovulate and eggs perishing and not endometriosis. the doctor who thought it was endo was basing that on seeing bloody fluid during retrieval but my doc's conclusion was based on the lab actually looking at eggs under microscope afterward. My doctor thinks I ovulated ahead of schedule despite the Lupron and recommends using a different antagonist to prevent that next time.

we are not happy that they waited too long to trigger, and last cycle they went ahead with cycle even though i hadn't ovulated and told them i did not want to go ahead unless they confirmed ovulation so we are leaving this clinic

my hubby is making calls and setting everything up to have phone consultations with RMA in connecticut and CCRM in colorado (i have a brother that lives close to there and can stay with him)

doctor believes the Crohns and the surgery have affected eggs so that while I do still have some good eggs, it's difficult to get them since ovaries are not functioning well and therefore not reacting consistently to stims - she is still hopeful but it sound like the probabilities are against me

i will try another clinic, but i won't be doing any medicated cycles until at least August or September now.

feeling pretty horrible today

I'm so so sorry panda. Ugh...just stinks!
I'm glad you are switching clinics. It sounds like you need to. Get into those really good and known clinics that WILL help you get your baby. I'm praying for you girl!

 

[ttcbabyisom]

Thank you, Squig. I am hoping the new clinic has some real answers because I feel my doctor here is now just guessing. This was actually our third medicated IVF. We haven't need ICSI because we got over 50 percent fertilization the first two times but I don't know what the new clinic will say.

Update: So we got a call yesterday saying it looked like one egg was fertilizing after all and to prepare for transfer today. Then this morning we got the call that the egg never fully turned over and it was a no go for the transfer. More heartbreak all over again.

We decided now to try to use our one frozen egg. I'm terrified but it just makes sense that I'm already medicated and that we are not going to use this clinic anymore so might as well try. Where it's only one, it doesn't seem worth doing a separate cycle for it with more medications.

It's a little hard because when we first got the one frozen one, I was thinking it would be one of many saved for a second or third child and now it's kind of a hail mary to try for a first. I'm so afraid the egg doesn't make it through thaw.

Thank you, ladies, for being out there listening. I am losing hope and it's so devastating.

oh my gosh, this is crazy! You poor thing! I'm saying prayers for you!!!

 

[panda fan]

Panda, I hope this is it!
I am so sorry that you went through a nightmare. I hope you'll forget all this soon and in two weeks you'll tell us a great news. I hope and pray the little one will snuggle in cozy and strong.

We have done sperm dna test and the results should be in 2-3 weeks. What should we do now? I have an appointment on Friday for u/s on CD8.
My dr. wants us to wait till the results. She doesn't have a treatment for a high fragm sperm anyways. We are doing for our own peace and mind. If we do IVF and we get lucky than we did dna test for nothing...
His morfology improved from 5% to 19% last month. Motility improved from20% to 30%. He is on the normal range. I think we need to do IVF and hope that the sperm is still in good shape for the April cycle. Antioxidants, more sex and less alchohol and less stress helped a lot for his sperm quality.
This time during IVF I'll ask my dr. to test my hormones during egg retrieval and after embryo transfer. Maybe I need extra help for my TWW.

Thank you, dov!

It is good to hear that your DH has improved sperm quality. I think that it is good to wait for tests though. Are you doing a medicated IVF this time or another natural one?

I think hormone tests before and after transfer is a good idea. One of the things they found in my last two cycles was that estrogen dropped right before retrieval and it shouldn't. Good thing to check.

 

[dovkav123]

I'll do a natural cycle IVF w/o meds.
I feel this will be it. Sperm morfology was never that good during all IVFs before. I really beleave this stopped us from BFN. My IUI didn't work cos I have serious scars down there.
My CD8 u/s is tomorrow and than I'll know when is my ER.

 

[panda fan]

I'll do a natural cycle IVF w/o meds.
I feel this will be it. Sperm morfology was never that good during all IVFs before. I really beleave this stopped us from BFN. My IUI didn't work cos I have serious scars down there.
My CD8 u/s is tomorrow and than I'll know when is my ER.

That's great news. I see why you want to catch those swimmers at their best. Good luck with the u/s tomorrow and hope the ER is soon. I'm excited for you.

 

[Squig34]

Good luck Dovkav!

 

[panda fan]

well . . . sad news again. our little frosty doesn't seem to have made it. i started spotting brown this morning which means AF is trying to come. can't believe i'm spotting on the progesterone injections. i don't have my beta until Wed but I might ask them to move it up to Monday if period starts.

so many ups and downs this past week or so and feeling really really useless and negative and destined to fail. i need to get myself back to a better place to deal with all of this and to not feel so down that i can't do other activities and enjoy them. i feel like i'll be on the couch all weekend staring at a television forcing myself to eat when i have no appetite. it's probably a good thing that i can't drink yet because i have to wait for the beta. any words of wisdom from you ladies is much appreciated.

 

[ttcbabyisom]

well . . . sad news again. our little frosty doesn't seem to have made it. i started spotting brown this morning which means AF is trying to come. can't believe i'm spotting on the progesterone injections. i don't have my beta until Wed but I might ask them to move it up to Monday if period starts.

so many ups and downs this past week or so and feeling really really useless and negative and destined to fail. i need to get myself back to a better place to deal with all of this and to not feel so down that i can't do other activities and enjoy them. i feel like i'll be on the couch all weekend staring at a television forcing myself to eat when i have no appetite. it's probably a good thing that i can't drink yet because i have to wait for the beta. any words of wisdom from you ladies is much appreciated.

Ugh, you've had to endure so much heartache...i'm so sorry!

 

[Squig34]

Panda, I'm so sorry I don't even have any words of wisdom, except that you (and DH) both need some special looking after, so be good to yourselves and plan some little treats, even if it's ordering in your favourite takeaway, watching a film together, having a relaxing bubble bath (together or not as you prefer!) - and keep communicating with each other. Be gentle to yourself, allow yourself to grieve - you will pick yourself up again, but you don't have to pretend that you aren't hurt and disappointed, especially in these next few days. You aren't useless.

 

[panda fan]

Hi ladies. Thank you so much for your support. I know you all know how hard these cycles are, getting hopes dashed over again and again and hoping there's light at the end of the tunnel. You guys are so strong to bounce back and keep returning to a positive mind frame and to keep researching and learning and talking to your doctors. It's very inspiring and helps me keep going and I know you will all be amazing moms some day.

Today I went to the gym and took a walk outside in the sun (spring is almost here) and started to prepare myself mentally for trying again. We have our phone consultation with CCRM on May 2 and I have lots of paperwork to do to get ready so can't take a total break from it all yet, but after the phone consultation we should have time off until August to relax and focus on other things for a while.

 

[Squig34]

CCRM is your new clinic, right? I hope you find it really positive and have lots of nice things planned to see you through til August so that you really can have a break and get back on the TTC wheel refreshed

I will finally see a RM consultant on 1st May. I'm hopeful he'll put a protocol in place for me. I still haven't gotten a follow up appointment for the one I was meant to see in February... all my most recent blood tests have also come back normal. So I don't know if there are other things to test or not.

 

[panda fan]

CCRM is your new clinic, right? I hope you find it really positive and have lots of nice things planned to see you through til August so that you really can have a break and get back on the TTC wheel refreshed

Finished most of the paperwork today. Lots of it. Have to go in and drop some medical release forms off at the clinic I go to near home. Going to ask them to do the beta one day early if they even want to still do it because I already got my period this evening. Also, I've developed HIVES on my bum from the progesterone shots. I thought it was itchy there the past couple days but thought maybe just little bit of itch from the shot location healing. Now I have big welts/hives and redness. Hopefully it goes away now that I stopped the shots, but be warned in case you try those shots. I use sesame oil in cooking and I've never had a problem before. I wonder if I've developed a new allergy to the oil from injecting it.

I will finally see a RM consultant on 1st May. I'm hopeful he'll put a protocol in place for me. I still haven't gotten a follow up appointment for the one I was meant to see in February... all my most recent blood tests have also come back normal. So I don't know if there are other things to test or not.

That's good news. We're consultation buddies! Mine is May 2. I hope it goes well and they make you feel confident that they have a good protocol for you. I hope you get some R&R time, too, between now and then.

 

[dovkav123]

Panda pan sending you good thoughts and lots of love
I hope the hives will go away soon.
I am so proud of your good spirits.
New clinic will help your dream come true soon.

ON Monday we found an egg and today it got fertilised. We'll wait till Thursday to transfer cos on the day3 DR will check the egg's shell, if it's hard, they will do assisted hatching. We have never done it before. I'll take aspirin, 300mg progesterone, we'll BD and I'll eat lots of pineapple core.
FRom 6 eggs we got 4 fertilised(perfect grade) and two with 3 pronuclei, not viable. Not a bad statistics.....

Egg retrieval was smooth, IVF lab asked if about anethesia and my dr. told them I didn't needed. Someone said OUCH!!!
I didn't make a sound during procedure. I had 23,1mm follicle and next to it was 11mm(she took a chance, she knew it won't be mature). She aspirated both. WE got one egg.

My hubby was holding my hand.

During sperm "retrieval" my hubby was looking in the book, I gave a helping hand, and he felt an urge, so the first drops got on the floor and his hands

his volume was 38mil,morfology 5%, fast sperm 0%, 20% slower.

Yesterday was a good day cos my hubby told me if it won't work will do a stim IVF in US. Finally he agrees we need to do a serious baby making decisions.

 

[Squig34]

Ouch for the hives, Panda - hope they clear up asap!

Dovkav, good news about your egg fertilising! What is assisted hatching? FX this does the trick for you, but I'm glad to hear that your DH has realised that if it doesn't, you need to bring out the big guns - GL either way!

 

[panda fan]

Panda pan sending you good thoughts and lots of love
I hope the hives will go away soon.
I am so proud of your good spirits.
New clinic will help your dream come true soon.

Thank you, dov!

ON Monday we found an egg and today it got fertilised. We'll wait till Thursday to transfer cos on the day3 DR will check the egg's shell, if it's hard, they will do assisted hatching. We have never done it before. I'll take aspirin, 300mg progesterone, we'll BD and I'll eat lots of pineapple core.
FRom 6 eggs we got 4 fertilised(perfect grade) and two with 3 pronuclei, not viable. Not a bad statistics.....

That's great news. I don't know much about assisted hatching. How does it work?

Yesterday was a good day cos my hubby told me if it won't work will do a stim IVF in US. Finally he agrees we need to do a serious baby making decisions.

That's also hopeful as a backup. Do you know which clinic you would look at going to?

 

[dovkav123]

my embryo is 6day old today

On Thursday we transfered 3dt 8B (embriologist told me A between B), but in report was writtten 8B. Got the photo.
I felt some activity that day in my uterus. Probably related to transfer.
I trust my dr. so much. She does a stress free transfer. She told me "I got to know your uterus very well by now" She had problems during HSG and the other clinic also had problems to enter my uterus with a catheter during ET.
Because of this relationship I am thinking to do a stim IVF here in Germany in my clinic. Everybody is so kind here...
NO cervical contractions so far, I ussually felt before 5dt in 3 IVF'S. It was a bad news for me. It was BFN....

an embryo shell was 15-20, assited hatching with a laser was performed. They made a whole. In the literature I read if a zona pellucida more than 15, AH is recommended. Something new was done....We have hope...

I rested 30min after ET
I take 100mg aspirin a day
3g fish oil (helps with immunity response)
alfa alfa, sweet pea sprouts,
300mg progesterone
VitD 3000
flaxseed oil
q-10
eating pinapple, avocado
stopped my green tea
Iron 100mg
folate
BD'ed before ET and will BD on 4dt and so on...with no orgasm.
Sperm and a seminal fliud may help with implantation. My clinic has a procedure which cost 50 euro, dr. inserts seminal fliud outside the cervix and inside it.

I have read that assisted hatchimg embryo could implant earlier and it is a chance for monozygote twins

A hole in the embryo's shell could cause infection. Some ladies take antibiotics...

ODT is on the Easter. Clinic is closed.
If we get lucky, we stil could have a baby in 2014, around my birthday or in early January.

Hoping and praying...