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[WhiteOrchid24]

This day is going from bad to worse! DH called the Dr's office back and so he wants to see him but first appt available was for a week on Friday! So now we have to wait a week and a half knowing that the reality is things aren't good. I guess DH isn't taking it very well as his response was "it's obviously not good news if he wants to see me. I guess we're just going to have 1 child"!!! I told him not to think like that and that there are options but he got all angry and said "not if they don't work!". I know he is obviously just worried and upset and I totally understand that but my concern is I really just don't think he is into fertility treatment as I just don't think we could afford it..... ugh why is this so difficult and stressful

 

[gemmy]

whiteorchid, I wouldn't assume it is necessarily bad , maybe more that he just wants to say it in person. I think it will help knowing if there is a problem and what they can do to help. A lady on here I met her oh had very low percentage but I saw her get pregnant still and you know you can. It is horrible waiting though. But you are getting the help you need.

Glad you other ladies are well, just around ov myself, cd12 so soon to join 2ww

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

I've realised there is a positive to having to wait (rather than run to see the Dr in a panic!!) and that's the fact that we will get a chance to talk things through and do some research. If we prepare for the fact that there has been no improvement then at least we can go to the Dr armed with questions about how to move forward. I've just been looking on the website of a close fertility clinic about IUI, but I guess whether we are candidates for that or not will depend on what his actual results are. I'm also going to suggest ordering FertilAid for DH and the possibility of Acupuncture and see how he feels, although I don't want to overwhelm him if he is feeling crappy.

If any of you have any info on IUI with MFI I would love to hear....or any other suggestions. I just need to calmly convince DH that it doesn't necessarily mean we are completely out of options....wish me luck!!

 

[tommyg]

I like your spirit, it gives you time to think. Good luck.

 

[eyemom]

Just realised your little girl is the same age as my son.

Oh yes you are right! It's such a fun age. I think that at almost every age though, at least after like 3 or 4 mos, haha.

I've realised there is a positive to having to wait (rather than run to see the Dr in a panic!!) and that's the fact that we will get a chance to talk things through and do some research. If we prepare for the fact that there has been no improvement then at least we can go to the Dr armed with questions about how to move forward. I've just been looking on the website of a close fertility clinic about IUI, but I guess whether we are candidates for that or not will depend on what his actual results are. I'm also going to suggest ordering FertilAid for DH and the possibility of Acupuncture and see how he feels, although I don't want to overwhelm him if he is feeling crappy.

Well done with the PMA! I hope it's not as overwhelming as it seems...that is hard to wait. But it's so true that it's good to be able to kind of prepare and think up questions so you can go in and form a plan for any scenario. Good luck good luck!

AFM, 7 dpo and nothing to report really!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey orchid sorry you and dh are going through a crappy time with not knowing the results! Like you said I hope this time will give you chance to talk things through and discuss what your prepared to do. Me and dh aren't rich have average salaries I'm part time and you'll be surprised how much money you can save when you really need too. IUI over here is £1000 a shot we're having 2 maybe 3 max then save and move onto ivf which is about £4000. Not quite sure what criteria iui involves regarding sperm etc but they'll be a host of info on the Internet. You've done it once and have your ds so I'm gonna say your more likely to be able to get pregnant again surely his sperm couldn't change that much in 3 years? ???

 

[IsaacRalph]

Me and dh realised last night that for the first time in 2 years for the next few months we don't need to make love to try for a baby! No more dtd or bding just plain old fashioned love making when we fancy it! How liberating! Ha ha

 

[eyemom]

Woo Isaac that's great. That would be liberating.

I'm 8 dpo and I just had a massive temp dip. Just hoping against hope it's a good kind of dip.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Isaac - you'd think not but who knows! Since we never had any testing etc done before we conceived DS we'll never know if he was a complete fluke and we just got super lucky or if things have just gone downhill in the last 4 years.....it's so frustrating - I never imagined that sort of thing would ever happen Poor DH seemed so upset and down last night but we have ordered a months supply of Fertilaid as nothing to lose trying that! He also said he's not going to drink for a while either (not that we drink a lot) so will see if that makes a difference. I'm hoping over the course of the weekend we'll have a chance to talk about fertility treatments but in some ways I almost want to just wait to see what the Doc says first.....

Isaac - enjoy your time with your husband and the fact that you can do it because you want to and not because you have to!! How lovely!!

Eyemom -would be exciting if it was an implantation dip as heard that can happen! Keeping my fingers tightly crossed for you!

Barbikins - I know you haven't been on since your test the other day. I hope you are ok - we're here if you need to talk. Good luck with your test tomorrow.

To all of you other lovely ladies Im keeping my fingers crossed for you all that this is your month!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey girls how are you all going? 7dpo and nothing to report! This tww is even slower than normal I just want to starting this treatment already. Hope your all having great weekends x

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hi Ladies,
Nothing to report from here either! Just waiting patiently for the Fertilaid to get here!! I'm also considering buying some Preseed - have any of you ever used it?

Isaac - do you normally have symptoms by now or is it still too early for you?
Eyemom - did your temp go back up?

How is everyone else doing in the 2ww? Anyone testing this month or just waiting to see if AF appears?! I hope you all have a great weekend. I'm enjoying a lovely leisurely day chilling out with perhaps some cooking! Oh and the gym but that'll pass

 

[eyemom]

Happy weekend everyone. I'm sitting here at work...slow day, especially for a Saturday.

Orchid, all this time I was thinking the appt was for THIS Friday (yesterday), then I read over your post again and saw it's actually Friday of next week. Boo! Seems like I've heard good things about FertilAid. Can't hurt!

We've used Pre-Seed during the fertile time for years now. More because I have to have something and I don't want to use something that could be spermicidal. It is alright. As lube goes, it gets sticky kind of fast, and if you use as much as it tells you to at first, it is tooooo much, IMO.

Isaac, sorry it's a long tww! I still keep hoping you won't need that IUI! Hope that's not too annoying or crazy. If it comes down to it though, it'll be so exciting to see how that goes.

AFM, yes my temp shot right back up the next day. It would have been higher but I took it a full hour early. Yesterday I was really driving myself nuts with symptom spotting. Today I took a test (10 dpo, 2 days after supposed implantation...though I'm reading that that estrogen surge causing the dip may not really mean much of anything). BFN. I can't say I'm surprised. I am still hopeful because it could be early but I'm not holding my breath. I at least have my head on straight again now!

Today I woke up a full hour and a half early so I didn't think my temp would be useful anyway. I have had some encouraging signs last couple of days, but the pre-AF type insomnia does not seem to bode well.

I only have one more test so I'm going to try to wait til Monday for real this time.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hi Ladies,
Hope you all had a good weekend!
Eyemom - how did you get on testing today? Sorry the first test was BFN but you never know - it was still early! I have my fingers crossed for you

How is everyone else doing in the 2ww? Anything encouraging?

Nothing to report from here - just waiting patiently til Friday to get Dr's results although still dreading it.... I'm on CD10 so guess it's time to start DTD on a regular basis! Hoping Fertilaid arrives tomorrow although DH away until Thur so guess he will start taking it then. Won't make any difference for this cycle since I'll probably ovulate on Friday but hopefully it helps after that!

Anyway I just wanted to say hi and hope you're all ok. Hugs to you all x

 

[tommyg]

Hi ladies

Any news Eyemom?
This month I want to wait until 14dpo before testing but we'll see how well I hold out. I've discovered some cheap tests in the supermarket so it lowers my resistance.

 

[gemmy]

Good luck ladies, just cd17 here, guess I am starting my 2ww so will see what it brings!
Hopefully lots of bfp here this month, that would be nice

 

[tommyg]

Ladies this is the first time I've ever stuck with one of this type of thread and I'm sure part of it is having a regular cycle. I used to get so fed up when my fellow posters would be ending the 2ww and I'd still be guessing when / if I'd ovulated. So 3 cheers for Femara!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey girls! Busy few days out all day for last few days so sorry not updated. Well looks like we have some new tww ladies wishing you all the luck in the world gemmy and Tommy! So not much going on here have pms from hell this month, been crampy pretty much all the way through since ovulation, that and back ache and sore boobs! Oh and last few days short tempered and very irritable. 100% sure I'm not pregnant this month.
Eye mom any updates tested again, sorry about your bfn but early days!
Barbi- what's happening getting worried about you?
Orchid- good luck for Friday really hoping it's better than your expecting!
It's still all just sinking in for me and think that's why I've been tearful the last few days had seen sad cases to deal with at work too, (I'm a nurse in emergency department)! Oh well on to the next chapter of my life xx

 

[eyemom]

Hi ladies! everyone.

Wish I had better news for you all, but another BFN this morning. Not sure what else to expect since we've had 16 cycles of failure in spite of DH's supersperm. Why should it work out now?

I think I alluded to this before, but today I went to visit a friend (about an hour away) who has a little girl about 6 mos younger than DD and another new baby girl. I've been sort of dreading this visit for the last few weeks, even though I really wanted to see her and the new baby and give our girls a chance to play. But it's kind of hard too since her girls are almost exactly 2 years apart and mine would have been pretty much exactly two years apart also (it's harder to be around baby girls because in my heart my angel was a girl). And all this coming off a BFN. But surprisingly it was fine and a really nice visit and I even held the baby and wasn't emotional.

The drive home sucked though but that's another story.

Anyway, I'm considering this cycle done. If I were gonna get a bfp I think I would have gotten it this morning. I know it can always be different, but I got my first BFPs in the past on CD12, and I'm just not feeling it. Now to wait on the witch and get in one more cycle (maybe two) before we talk with the Dr about what's next.

So DH has supersperm, my TSH and prolactin were normal, tubes were clear and uterus looked normal. I ovulate on my own every month with normal cycle length and good LP length. Dr said next would be meds or maybe IUIs. Any tests I should ask for first before investing in stuff like that?

 

[eyemom]

I just ordered a couple of bottles of Fertilaid for Women. I figure what do I have to lose. Except about $55. :-/

 

[tommyg]

Sorry to hear that Eyemom, BFNs always leave me thinking maybe I tested too early, but maybe it's more hoping against hope.