35 and over and ltttc for baby #2 for over 2.5yrs!

[WhiteOrchid24]

Hi ladies!

To the newbies a big hello - you are absolutely both welcome here. As Tommy and Isaac mentioned the only issue we have come across is ppl slating us "older" ladies trying to get pregnant and really there is nothing worse! If I was that 65 year old German lady who has just discovered she is carrying 4 and has 13 kids already then fair enough!!

That being said infertility and SI really is horrendous and we know how helpful it is to have people to talk to who are going through the same so please do stay and be a part of our thread

MWB - I really am so sorry for what you are going through. Big big hugs

Tommy - glad today went well. How much did they take?

Cookie - glad to hear you are finally better!! Here's hoping no more obstacles to have to deal with!

A big hi to everyone else and sorry if I have missed anyone!

I am SUPER cranky today.... I'll spare you all and perhaps rant in my journal but I just feel blah... I don't know why but this no wheat/dairy thing is pissing me off - mainly cause I just need to get organised with good recipes and stock my fridge and pantry with lots of good food, especially snacks, and stop looking at the million bags of pasta I seem to have!! Anyway like I said I will spare you - if you don't mind a rant you can head on over to my journal! Take care everyone x

 

[tommyg]

Orchard lol to the German lady I can't imagine wanting to get pregnant at 65! Never mind with quads honestly what is she thinking. With 13 weans she is hardly in desperate need of a sibling for her first!!!
I worry about the affects of me having a baby at 40.

They took 3/4 of a pint, my blood was going really slowly that they gave up at that. However I'm feeling fine. See how it feels next week.

Don't know why you need to dodge dairy and wheat but one answer is to go Chinese or Thai they don't eat either. I bet you've never realised it. Apparently they consider dairy to be "damp" so snacks would be rice cakes, fruit, prawn crackers, or veggie sticks.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Eeek 3/4 pint seems so much!! I thought it was bad enough when they took 7 vials of blood! Good for you and Im glad you are feeling ok after.... who knows maybe this will really help you!

Yes I think we'll be eating lots of Thai and Indian and the odd Chinese although can only eat Rice Noodles not anything else and no soy sauce....but can use Tamari... urgh so many changes but I'll get there.... Lots of rice crackers, hummus, veggies, fruit, homemade soups etc. I'm sure once I get over the initial withdrawals and get organised I'll feel great and perhaps even lose some weight - woohoo!

 

[tommyg]

Is this to help with the IVF, or just a general detox, health kick?

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

For the IVF - it was in the info sheet the Dr sent me as one of their recommendations... Cut out wheat and dairy or at least limit as much as possible and a diet rich in greens and as much raw food as possible.... I'm going to buy the Wheat Belly Cookbook later and see if it can help me as that's the book he suggested....

 

[Asryellah]

Thank you ladies for your warm welcome

Dont mind me asking stupid/no need to answer, but why are you Tommy giving blood? Are they checking something?
And I know about the german lady OMG, dunno how she will cope! She must have loads of money and help around.
And no, they havent found anything wrong with us. So we are unexplained

White orchid, if you like pasta could you just go for glutein free pastas & breads etc? Some ppl swear on glutein free diet in helping them get pg about that. I just try to eat healthy, and take my supplements vits, q10, D+E, and just started inositol last cycle. I do eat s*itload of candys though, so sugar is my bad...but I do excersice a lot so try to "use" it.

And feel free to correct me if I dont get all you are saying, my english is not the best

Gosh I'm tired..need to go and get some and maybe start working instead of hanging around here...

 

[tommyg]

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[tommyg]

Arsyellah where are you from and what does your nickname mean? Just being curious.

The reason for the blood is I have haemochromatosis basically too much iron in my body and the only way to get rid of it is to remove blood and force my body to make new blood using up its stock of iron.
The problem was first flagged up by the fertility clinic who were looking for anaemia. So they will get my iron down by taking blood weekly then it will change to once every few months like donations.
Too much iron causes long term damage to the bits of your body where it stores it, heart, liver, skin, brain, joints etc.

Orchard you seriously have me thinking is it worth trying to cut wheat and dairy out. At the moment I'm trying to stick to whole wheat to which is harder for you body to get the iron out of rather than fortified white wheat. I've ditched caffeine (tea/coffee) swapped for mint and herbal so don't really do milk, and so many cearels have iron added that maybe ditching it would be just as easy. Then that leaves the big problem food - chocolate mmmmm!

That has to be do able and reduce my waist line.

 

[Cookie1979]

Tommy - thanks! Yes hopefully no more obstacles now and perfect health would be good. Hopefully your iron levels will come down quickly and you won't have to have the blood taken too much. My mother in laws levels are now good, but when she first started having it taken she was having to have a similar amount taken weekly. Its good that its been caught early, my mil's brother didn't know until it did alot of damage, I think it's mainly his joints. When they realised he had it, my mother in law got tested and turned out she had it too, but although her iron levels were high the levels hadn't caused any problems. She was late 50s when she realised, so she's lucky.

Orchid - good luck with cutting out wheat and dairy. I'm cutting out caffeine, think thats going to be my limit, but apparently caffeine can affect fertility so I've just switched my normal tea for decaf (found a nice one) and I'm trying to drink around 2 litres of water a day. It was all recommended by my reflexologist, and when I thought about it, I realised I had cut out caffeine and was drinking 2 litres of water a day when I fell pregnant with my son. So maybe she has a point! Giving it a try anyway and just trying to get the lbs shifting. Good luck xx

Asryellah - Welcome to the group, everyone is lovely on here and it's really nice to have support from women who know what its like to struggle with number 2. xx

AFM - Well I have to say I'm feeling good right now, I think the reflexology is doing me good, one thing I have noticed is that I haven't been the usual crazy bitch that I turn into pre period. Usually I flip out regularly and its over silly things but I noticed last cycle I was fine, no melt downs or stressing out, and I think my period is around the corner and usually at this point I'd be a stress head but I'm not I feel good and completely calm. I'm in a good place right now, I think not just the reflexology has done me good but the break from trying, really didn't want the break but it was forced upon me and I feel much better for it. I'm coming up to 2 years of trying now, and I feel better than I did when I had been trying for 6 months to a year...was definitely much more stressed then. You'd think I'd be going the other way and getting more stressed over time, but I'm not. I hope it lasts xx

 

[Asryellah]

Arsyellah where are you from and what does your nickname mean? Just being curious.

The reason for the blood is I have haemochromatosis basically too much iron in my body and the only way to get rid of it is to remove blood and force my body to make new blood using up its stock of iron.
The problem was first flagged up by the fertility clinic who were looking for anaemia. So they will get my iron down by taking blood weekly then it will change to once every few months like donations.
Too much iron causes long term damage to the bits of your body where it stores it, heart, liver, skin, brain, joints etc.

.

I'm from Finland and my nickname is just a version of my friends daughters name Ok wow about your blood, never heard such! But glad its taken care of This shows how different we are again, I should use iron tablets more cos sometimes get so weak around periods.

Cookie, I did reflexolgy too before DS and actually did go few times before last years pregnancy...maybe I should start going again, just costs like 60 € per session. But it is soooooo lovely, you get such a relaxed feeling

 

[Cookie1979]

Asryellah - Yes it is expensive, my first was £65 and the subsequent sessions are £46 each, but she says I only need to see her every 2 to 3 weeks, I wouldn't be able to afford weekly thats for sure. Maybe its just trying something new, but she's so confident that I will get pregnant, her optimism has rubbed off on me. Maybe it really worked for you then, might be worth trying again...the price does put you off, I was talking about doing it last year but put it off for a good 6 months before I finally went for it. Just trying to be healthier, avoiding alcohol and caffeine, eating healthily and drinking more water. Just coming to the end of a 2 cycle break, hoping my period will start on Thursday and can finally get back to trying. xx

 

[tommyg]

Cookie always trying something new gives renewed confidence / hope. And in this waiting game anything is worth a shot.

 

[Wish4another1]

everyone (and to you new gals)

reading along....
HOH for all of you

 

[Asryellah]

Asryellah - Yes it is expensive, my first was £65 and the subsequent sessions are £46 each, but she says I only need to see her every 2 to 3 weeks, I wouldn't be able to afford weekly thats for sure. Maybe its just trying something new, but she's so confident that I will get pregnant, her optimism has rubbed off on me. Maybe it really worked for you then, might be worth trying again...the price does put you off, I was talking about doing it last year but put it off for a good 6 months before I finally went for it. Just trying to be healthier, avoiding alcohol and caffeine, eating healthily and drinking more water. Just coming to the end of a 2 cycle break, hoping my period will start on Thursday and can finally get back to trying. xx

Your reflexionist sounds lovely, you need the positive vibes

Mine told me also that she "sees things" has always been open and sensitive for messages. And one time she was doing her session on me, somehow i just started crying all of sudden and said to her I dunno why but I just miss my grandmom so much, and then she said that my grandmom is now here with us...
it was weird, but I do feel like my grammy is still around us. And i do talk to her every once in a while. Might be going nuts

Tomorrow I will go for my U/S, to see how Menopur works for me.. exiting!!!!

 

[Asryellah]

How's everyone doing?

I keep posting I just had my u/s and there was 2 follicles always a better chance right? One on each side about 12mm so should start testing ovulation on saturday. If test gets positive then trigger with Pregnyl..
I have had 2 follies in one clomid, and one iui cycle but didnt help, so shouldnt really expect anything. But you know how it is, you wish even you havent had sex around ovulation...

 

[Cookie1979]

Best of luck Asryellah - I dont know anything about follicles but fingers crossed for you.

I literally jumped for joy when I went the toilet because my period arrived! Its a 30 day cycle, shortest cycle I've ever had. So flippin happen. So a new cycle has begun, and this cycle we can start trying again! Hooray!! Anyone who doesn't know, I have PCOS and my cycles vary, usually around 34/35 days long but have been longer, so 30 days is brilliant. Hopefully I'll ovulate just as early this cycle. Also my boy got offered our first choice of school so today is a good day!!!

xx

 

[momwithbabies]

Cookie: Yay for the good news! I hope you keep on getting good news...long cycles are frustrating, I know. Sometimes AF is a relief because you get a fresh start.

 

[tommyg]

Hello Ladies this will be the 3rd time I've sat down to write this post and never managed to finish it.

Cookie I'm glad something seems to be working for you. 30 days is good going. What is your next step or we you planning to give this a few months?
Glad you have got DS into your preferred school.

Wish how are you? Are you packing boxes getting ready for the move?

Asryellah how did your scan go today? Have the follicales came up to size? Good luck.

Orchard how are you coping with the diet? I have to admire your ability to stick to it.

Bex where are you with things?

MWB how are you coping? Any thoughts if you want to keep TTC.

Hope I haven't missed anybody. AFM I'm ok, plodding along the the iron issues.

 

[momwithbabies]

Tommyg: Thank you for asking. I'm not doing too good today. Physically, I'm still in some pain and I don't feel like myself. Emotionally, I'm so sad that I lost my baby. I lost my baby last Saturday. Before then, I was so happy to have this new life inside of me. I was so excited to give my children a sibling. My life felt renewed and even problems at work didn't bother me because I had hope.

I was crying this morning and my husband asked if I need to go see a counselor or whatever. My reply was, "It has only been a week." In the beginning, he was concerned and took care of me. Now that I'm feeling better physically, he acts like I no longer need help or someone to talk to...he acts like nothing happened. I guess that's how he copes or maybe it's that fact that he didn't have a connection to the baby like I did. Idk, but I told him this morning I still need him. He said he's sorry and held me as I cried in his arms. He asked me what I am the saddest about. I said, "My baby died. All of the joy and excitement of expecting has been pulled out of me." He didn't say anything...just held me. I think that's what I need from him most. I told him I felt really sick this morning taking my daughter to tennis. I think my blood sugar dropped, as I was dizzy and nauseous. I told him that it made me angry that he didn't offer to take her. He claimed he didn't know I was awake and not feeling well. I let that one go, but I reiterated to him how much I still need him.

I don't know what each day will bring. I'm familiar with the stages of grief and I guess miscarriages follow that same cycle. It's hard to lose your baby, and the trauma of me possibly dying has take its toll. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hugs mwb xxx