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[eyemom]

Oooh I'd love the recipe if you don't mind.

Isaac *hugs* you'll be a wonderful fertility nurse.

Forgive me I'm lazy I'm going to copy/paste what I posted on another thread:

Afm there had been a few subtle things that gave me a tiny bit of hope, but I am really feeling out now. I always get insomnia before my period starts. No problems falling asleep, but I wake up way too early and can't fall back asleep. Usually it starts sooner, so that was one more thing that was giving me hope...but it just started yesterday morning. Yesterday I woke up at 5:55 am. Which sucked but wasn't horrible. But now it's 3:30 am and I can only hope I'll be able to get a little more sleep at some point. From what I gather, the insomnia is a result of the estrogen and progesterone going back down.

I can't even temp properly when it's like this. It's frustrating on so many levels. At least when it's like this I can look forward to my period because it's relief from the exhaustion.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey eyemom I get insomnia with fluctuations of hormones too weird! I usually get it few days before ov abd few days before af it truly sucks! I stupidly tested again today bfn because I noticed some brown tinged cm yesterday which is so unusual for me but saying that this cycle has just been altogether strange! My hopes are now zero as almost instantly as I tested my usual pre af signs are upon me, temp is slowly dropping too. Due on on Thurs/fri. You gonna test eyemom? Fx'd for you still x

 

[eyemom]

Haha even after I posted that I tested (11 dpo, had intended to wait till 12 dpo). Bfn. I must have just wanted to waste a dollar. Sigh. Sometimes I wonder of clinging to any bit of hope I can keeps me going or makes me crazy.

Sorry about your bfn.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Sorry to you both about your bfn's - big hugs. There's nothing worse, esp. cause for whatever reason you have that little bit of hope and then in an instant it's gone. This would be the day for me that I was super cranky and emotional then it would return on day 1 of my cycle, so sending big hugs. Issac - if you aren't due til next Thur/Fri it's still early?! Or were you due this Thur/Fri just past? I know that doesn't help though cause I think deep down you just know whether it has happened or not. Sorry I can't offer more consoling words but I am here and I'm sending hugs. I've decided in future on Day 1 of my cycle I'm going to do something nice just for me - might be just having a nice, relaxing bubble bath with a glass of wine but anything that gives me a little break.

AFM - I am now on day 9 of my cycle and for the 4th month in a row I have had spotting today!!! I have no idea why or what it means but there you go. My temps are also still quite high for pre-ov so still confused by that and not sure what my coverline will be this month. I guess only time will tell.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Eyemom - here is the recipe for the caramel/butterscotch sauce!
1 cup brown sugar
1 cup cream (whipping)
1 tsp vanilla extract
3/4oz (20g) unsalted butter

Put all of the ingredients in a small pan over medium heat. Stir well and bring to a gentle boil. Cook stirring occasionally, for 10 minutes or until thick and syrupy. Leave to cool a little then pour over Vanilla Ice Cream and top with Toasted Pecans!

So good! I halved the recipe as was just for hubby and I and I still had plenty left over but it would keep in the fridge for a good few days if feeling extra indulgent! Enjoy!

 

[eyemom]

Sounds awesome thanks!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey girls!
Sorry about the bfn eyemom I akso feel your pain at wasting money just because you some how think what if? I almost stare at the bloody test until I go cross eyed. Think in the past 20 I've only not tested early say once all other times heartbreaking bfn's and a few nasty evaps! I have a lp of about 15/16 days orchid I'm the same as eyemom 11dpo today! When I was pregnant 2 times before I got my bfp on 10dpo so don't think it will happen this time. Unusual about your spotting orchid? You taking any supps like agnus castus etc? I had some pre ov spotting on clomid!
Getting my head around to getting af now I find it helps to get early bfn and have few days to reflect on the whole situation. One more natural cycle then iui Omg!

 

[eyemom]

Yeah that's why I get internet cheapies. I get what you mean about the early bfns. If I see the bfn I can start thinking about other things and by the time AF arrives I'm better about having a PMA about it all.

 

[tommyg]

I've never got round to buying Internet cheapies but if you look in Asda they do 2 for £1.

 

[eyemom]

We don't have anything quite like that here (I'm in the USA). There's a dollar store chain here called Dollar Tree where I could buy them for $1. But it's kind of out of the way and I wouldn't go there for anything else. So I just get them online since it's easier.

 

[eyemom]

Just saw yet another friend on fb posting a pic of their kid (younger than mine) posing in a "big brother" t-shirt.

 

[tommyg]

Ouch it's hard seeing other people get pregnant so easy but I guess you don't always know someones journey they may have had issues 1st time round and went for the same solution the 2nd time. Or at least that's what I keep telling myself to make me less jealous.

 

[CaliDreaming]

Ugh, those big bro/big sis shirts always put me in a bad mood, and even more so if the kid is younger than my dd!

Sometimes even keeping in mind the struggle that a woman might have had in conceiving doesn't even help me to not have jealous feelings about the pregnancy. I've been trying so long now that a lot of these women have had to get pregnant, give birth, and get pregnant with #2. It especially stings when the same women are one of those who get down on women with secondary infertility, but yet didn't stop at 1 even though they swore up and down when TTC that all they wanted and needed was one.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

I don't even bother to buy pregnancy tests anymore although I should check the local dollar stores to see if they have any as otherwise they are SO expensive! If for some reason I do ever test I get so mad that's I've just wasted so much money!

I'm not on any medication at all. All I take is prenatal vitamins so not really understanding the Day 9 spotting, especially because I know I don't ovulate until between days 14-16.... so strange, especially because now it has been 4 months in a row! Really weird....

 

[tommyg]

Is mid cycle bleeding not also known as estrogen breakthrough bleeding, when your estrogen levels drop.

Have you asked about it or had it checked out? Do you do the charting thing to confirm ovulation?

Personally charting is something I've never got into tried it once or twice but it just seemed far too clinical for me.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Is mid cycle bleeding not also known as estrogen breakthrough bleeding, when your estrogen levels drop.

Have you asked about it or had it checked out? Do you do the charting thing to confirm ovulation?

Personally charting is something I've never got into tried it once or twice but it just seemed far too clinical for me.

I just had a look at "estrogen breakthrough bleeding" but it seems that that is most likely associated with being on the pill. I know some ppl get spotting when they are ovulating but it's too early for me. I do chart and always have a clear temp shift and pretty much always know to the exact day when I ovulated due to symptoms, (normally days 14-16) which is then followed pretty much exactly 14 days later by AF!

I mentioned it to my Dr at my last appt and that was one of the reasons I was going back next week to see him as he wanted to know if the spotting was continuing but I ended up cancelling the appt since DH hasn't had his SA done yet. As soon as he has I'll make another appt...It just seems so random that it's always day 9!

How are you all today?

 

[CaliDreaming]

WhiteOrchid, I know that must be distressing to be getting the spotting. It seems that is just one of those things where the cause is hard to pinpoint. I've heard of women with endo who get spotting. It also can be a symptom of polyps. Hopefully, it's nothing that you have to worry about!

AFM: I'm doing well. I'm about 8 dpo. I'm technically NTNP, but I can't help but keep up with what CD I am. I didn't really time bd well this cycle so I know not to get hopeful at all.

DH has been doing really well taking his supplements. I'm pleasantly surprised, because I thought he'd fight me tooth and nail. I think he's noticing some other benefits so he's not as resistant as he'd usually be. Also, I've been preparing his meals and he loves that, so he's more willing to cooperate with me on the supps.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey girls how are you all doing?
Cali- good luck in this tww hun
Afm not a lot going on just waiting on af due in few days now, feeling supe irritable and started with the insomnia and lower back periody pain. Dh has yet another urine infection after Cystoscopy few weeks ago revealed a completely normal bladder and urethra. So now on more antibiotics and now has to have an ultrasound to see what might be causing his problems. Probably not the right thing to do but he's going ahead with sperm analysis tomorrow. His problems have spanned over the last 3-4 months so I wanted to get it checked just incase its lowered the count. If that's the case we'll know whether to postpone our treatment. Its just one thing after another blah blah blah xx

 

[CaliDreaming]

IsaacRalph, hope your hubby's SA goes well tomorrow. I would want to know how the infection affected his count too. I never realized before how things like that affected it.

WhiteOrchid, coincidentally, a few hours after reading your post, I wiped and discovered that I'm experiencing spotting too. I have never spotted before in my life! It's really freaking me out.

 

[tommyg]

I'm ok definitely in the 2ww just confused, actually keen for this cycle to hurry up and finish so I can get on with next month.