35 and over and ltttc for baby #2 for over 2.5yrs!

[tommyg]

Oh thats a shame your Doc never mentioned it. Clomid is known for thinning your lining.
The only reason I can think of for them not to offer it is its an 'off label prescription' a bit like the pill being used for spots. Its also known as letrozole.

 

[barbikins]

We were aware that Clomid could thin lining. I knew that was a risk. But I have very thick lining on my own so I didnt think it would be so bad.
Then some thing wonky happened where I had 8mm then down to 6mm but back up to like 11mm after trigger. My doctor said after the fact that she thinks its a discreation with different technicians so I dont think my lining was to blame at all but she doesnt want to risk it anymore. But I just wish she had an alternative to offer me.
She wanted me to do Goncal...but no THANKS. First, its like 3x's more expensive & I would produce like a tonne of eggs. No thanks!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey barbikins what's goncal? Not heard of that one! I'm really concerned as my friend had just had a follicle scan at the oclinic I was at to begin with and apparently she had 4 mature follies on left and 3 on the right ranging from 16-28mm but she was told to carry on and have sex??? Wtf! She was also informed if she got pregnant she has a high risk of multiples no shit sherlock! How would you fancy 7 babies?? I think its a bit risky any ot
her opinions? This is her 1st round of clomid 50mg!
Welcome back orchid glad you chilled but crappy your having a monster af. I'm normally quite light so no problem really! Just been ringing around for quotes for fertility meds and best quote is 50% cheaper than next cheapest quote Wtf. Sorry its a Wtf day today!

 

[tommyg]

7 follicle and she was told it was ok to DTD. I can only imagine they are thinking DH must have issues so gives his swimmers more targets to hit / miss. I guess they can also reduce embryos if too many implant.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Tommy- that's the thing her partners sperm count is fine so not sure what they are doing really! She did have a lead follicle at 28mm and others 24 22 size with smallest at 16! All could potentiallyovulate.

 

[CaliDreaming]

Wow that's a lot of mature follicles! I know over 35 they don't expect all to survive but still. The only thing I can think is that maybe she wasn't using a trigger.

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Sorry you are so concerned about your friend....that does seem a lot. Is there any chance she could speak to someone else for a 2nd opinion? Also how does she feel about having multiples - is she ok with the idea of twins or triplets?!

I'm having a crappy day today as well. Hoping it's perhaps just Monday blues but I have just been talking to my Sis on skype and watching my gorgeous little nephew (who is 10 days old) and it is just hurting so much as just making me realise how badly I want another baby I hate feeling like this cause I am so unbelievably happy for her and he is just amazing (it's her first) but every time I see him apart from wanting desperately to give him a big cuddle (another issue as since I live on the other side of the world from my sis I'm not going to get to see him for another 4 months ) all I want to do is cry because I just want one so badly..... Stupid crappy day! I HATE feeling like this. Humph - sorry for the moan ladies, I just feel like I can't talk to anyone about it to all x

 

[IsaacRalph]

Wow that's a lot of mature follicles! I know over 35 they don't expect all to survive but still. The only thing I can think is that maybe she wasn't using a trigger.

Yeah she's only 31 and no thry didn't trigger her so I suppose that lead follicke could take over?

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey orchid so sorry your having a crappy day! Of course your gonna feel emotional your sister has just given birth and your feeling all of her emotions too that's just a sister thing! Cheers up it will be your turn again soon I just know it. X

 

[CaliDreaming]

Wow that's a lot of mature follicles! I know over 35 they don't expect all to survive but still. The only thing I can think is that maybe she wasn't using a trigger.

Yeah she's only 31 and no thry didn't trigger her so I suppose that lead follicke could take over?

Yeah if she doesn't use a trigger then I think more than likely only the lead follicle will be released.

 

[CaliDreaming]

Sorry you are so concerned about your friend....that does seem a lot. Is there any chance she could speak to someone else for a 2nd opinion? Also how does she feel about having multiples - is she ok with the idea of twins or triplets?!

I'm having a crappy day today as well. Hoping it's perhaps just Monday blues but I have just been talking to my Sis on skype and watching my gorgeous little nephew (who is 10 days old) and it is just hurting so much as just making me realise how badly I want another baby I hate feeling like this cause I am so unbelievably happy for her and he is just amazing (it's her first) but every time I see him apart from wanting desperately to give him a big cuddle (another issue as since I live on the other side of the world from my sis I'm not going to get to see him for another 4 months ) all I want to do is cry because I just want one so badly..... Stupid crappy day! I HATE feeling like this. Humph - sorry for the moan ladies, I just feel like I can't talk to anyone about it to all x

It's so hard when someone so close to you gets pregnant and gives birth. I felt the same way when my new niece was born in July. Normally, I would be very supportive of my little brother and SIL, but I just didn't have it in me this time to do more than the minimum congrats. It's soooo hard for me being around pregnant women and newborns. I get better as they get older.

 

[IsaacRalph]

The more exposure I'm having with new borns the easier it is for me in a strange backward way! I think I just over compensate not having been able to have another YET by overdosing on my friends abd families new borns! Had 4 born in the last 6 months.
How is everyone today? any better orchid?

 

[barbikins]

Orchid that makes sense. I'm anticipating the birth of 3 babies in the next 2 months and that's so hard to swallow. I am nervous about visiting them.
I don't have much interest at all. We'll see how it goes eh?

 

[CaliDreaming]

Oh wow IsaacRalph, you have a boatload of newborns in your life!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Yeah it seems like everyone one else on the planet can make babies without a problem apart from us girls! Why is it such a problem for us?

 

[barbikins]

Yeah same here...everyone else seems to have no issues or plans of getting pregnant but still do
Funny b/c I didn't plan my pregnancy w/my daughter so I was one of those people.
Now I'm the opposite - fighting to get it. Blurg.

 

[bubat]

I'm in the same boat -- I actually joined this site today because I've had enough of just reading the boards. I'm 33, husband is 38, and we have a wonderful son who is almost three. I got pregnant in three months the first go round. I assumed it would be just as easy this time around, but we're now on month 17 and still trying. I've had one failed IUI, and a possible second failed IUI (won't know for sure until later this week -- but I just don't feel pregnant), and trying to figure out where to go next. It's nice to know that there are others in the same place!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey bubat! You sound almost identical to me my ds will be 3 in December and it took us 5 cycles with him! Currently on cycle 19 and no hint of pregnancy in all that time. All tests are fine also! Starting iui treatment in October but not holding much hope but will give it a go! Welcome to the thread your defo notalone and we are here for you. When is af/testing due? I'll be 7 dpo tomorrow so in the tww wait also due af around the 19th. Its an awful time for me as every now and again I have months when I get terrible nausea and metallic taste in my mouth abd I have it this month but like previous times ended up with bfn's! I get terrible pms and it's all part of it but I just think sometimes maybe just maybe this month will be different. I only pray. X

 

[WhiteOrchid24]

Thanks Ladies! I'm feeling much better today. Don't get me wrong I'm delighted for my sister - it's her first, it's just every time I look at her little boy he reminds me so much of my DS when he was born and it just makes me ache for another I'll get over it though I'm sure - I kind of have to...in the next 2 months I also have 3 of my best friends each having their 2nd starting with 1 due next week so it will be baby overload and a million photos to see etc. Still again I'm delighted for them all, I just wish it wasn't so hard for us - esp since my son is the oldest and we have been trying for so long (I think when we started trying 2 of them had just had their first 3 months earlier! Wow that's a depressing thought!!)

Hello bubat! Welcome to the board but yes I hope it's a short stay for you too. FX to you and Isaac - hopefully this is your month for both of you. No idea if this month will work for me - just found out hubby is away next week so just hoping he is back for the later part of the week when I'll be ovulating. I also desperately need him to make his appt for his 2nd SA before our Dr's appt on the 25th but that isn't seeming to be easy either! Why are things never straightforward!!

Ok time to go and get on and get out in the sun! Went to the gym earlier and feeling so much better for doing so

 

[bubat]

Thanks, guys! Seems like we are all in the same position. We've been tested for everything under the sun, too, and no identifiable cause. I ovulate every month, DH has a normal count, no blocked tubes, etc. Unexplained secondary infertility. RE says maybe stress. I too am also surround by babies and pregnant people. I think I'm dealing with it ok, but some days are better than others.

I'm now 11 days DPO, tested the trigger out of my system, and so far negative. I knew I was pregnant with DS 9-10 days dpo because I felt hungover but hadn't had a drink in days. I feel nothing now, so I will probably have to count this cycle out. Sigh.

In some ways I feel like I saw this coming in slow motion -- when we'd been trying for a few months I talked to my best friend about another friend who was having issues, and inevitably discussed what level of medical intervention we'd each personally be comfortable with. I remember thinking that IVF wasn't for me, but it wasn't even in the reasonable realm of possibilities then. But still i was talking about it. Seems silly, but now the crazy part of me is like, "did I have a premonition?!?"

My RE initially said no way, too, on IVF but it seems like they are having a hard time controlling me with IUI. First month, I started with one dominant follicle and was ready in 4 (!!) days on a dose of the hormones on the lower end of normal. I got a BFP for like 2 days after testing the trigger out, but then it went and AF came. Second round, we took things slower with a lower dosage hoping that would make more than one and hopefully of better quality than one that baked in 4 days, but my body's regulation system kicked in, and again, one follicle. Technically supposed to test on Friday, but I am not feeling like it worked, and am thinking about what to do next. I am now debating whether IUI is a waste of money for me (and of course insurance covers NOTHING). Funny that my view on IVF is a bit different now than it previously was.

Has anyone else decided to move on from IUI in order to (a) up your chances and (b) get more information (i.e., do DH's and my biological parts now repel each other or something)? What did you chose? Why?

Typing this out already made me feel better! So thanks for listening in virtual space.