A group for TTC#1 and had more than one loss?

[notoptimistic]

Hi everyone. I am new to this site. I am trying to conceive #1 after two missed miscarriages. One was an xxy and the other was a "normal" xx (tissues were tested after d&c's). I am early 30's and my last miscarriage was over a year ago. I got pregnant quickly both times, but that's didn't work out obviously.

 

[Sooperhans]

Ok great thank you, hb will be treated to another morning of bd'ing, lol. Got some ewcm this evening so surely it can't be far off... Thanks for the advice about the crosshairs too, I was wondering if I had the right settings on my chart! I was worrying as doc originally said cd18 but when I spoke to her and asked what if I hadn't ov'd she said 4dpo...so will look out for temp rises in the next few days and hope I catch the egg xx

 

[Sooperhans]

Notoptimistic welcome to the thread and I'm sorry for your losses. Mmc is awful and it just stops everything in its tracks and you can't pinpoint what happened and when can you When did you find out about your mmc? Was it the same point each time? Are you actively ttc again? You can find lots of advice and support here, to help you on your journey to having your take home baby

 

[wookie130]

Notoptimistic, hi there! I too had a mmc last year, at 10 weeks, although the baby stopped developing at 6 weeks. My last miscarriage was a very early miscarriage at 4 weeks and 3 days...that was far less traumatic for me than the first loss.

Did you have any recurrent miscarriage testing? My doc follows that 3 losses rule...she won't do anything until after a 3rd miscarriage. Lovely, huh? But, I have to have hope that this next one may be my take-home baby. I'm allowed to start trying again next month, as they're putting me back on Clomid to help my slightly low progesterone.

 

[notoptimistic]

Sooper/Wookie - So sorry for your losses too. The first mmc was a long drawn out ordeal. I went in for an early ultrasound maybe around 6 weeks because my cycles are long and they wanted to try to date the pregnancy. Unfortunately they only saw the sac, so made me come back the next week for another ultrasound at which point they saw the fetal pole with a very low heartbeat. They then had me come in for a third ultrasound at which point there was no sign of the pregnancy any longer, although I hadn't started bleeding. Because the placenta had looked very cystic in past ultrasounds, they suspected a molar pregnancy and that's why I had a d&c done. Turns out it was an xxy and wasn't molar. The second one I went in for my first ultrasound and baby/fetus was 7 weeks 2 days which was pretty on target for when I probably ovulated. It had a great heartbeat - I think it was like 165. I went in four weeks later and saw the baby on an ultrasound, but it wasn't moving and had no heartbeat. Again, I hadn't started bleeding nor had any other signs of a miscarriage. They did a d&C on me again and tested the tissue and found no chromosomal issues.

I got my period back last march and have been trying ever since. I saw an RE in January and he did recurrent miscarriage testing (two miscarriages count apparently) and infertility testing since it had been one year since my last miscarriage. Unexplained infertility is the diagnosis. Nothing wrong with me or my husband. I am now preparing to do an IUI this cycle (took clomid). The hard part for me is that my cycles are 36-42 days long - always have been. Lots of waiting. The doc is hoping the clomid will shorten my cycle.

 

[wookie130]

Notoptimistic, you've been through a lot between your losses, and now the unexplained infertility stuff.

I'm trying Clomid out again next cycle, as I did get pregnant in January, my first cycle on the medication. So, I hope it encourages you that Clomid really, really works, and I hope it gets you pregnant with your forever baby soon!

 

[notoptimistic]

Wookie - what dose are you on?

 

[BeachChica]

Wookie - I can't remember if I asked you this or not, but are you having trouble ovulating? I thought the Clomid was more for that, not low progesterone. I tested low for progesterone but when I asked about the Clomid they told me I did not need it because I OV. I should get the green light to try next month and I will be on progesterone suppositories starting 3 DPO.

 

[Sooperhans]

Morning ladies, please can I have some more charting advice? I'm on cd19 and for cd17/18 I had raised temps but it went down today, so FF hasn't confirmed ov...I had ewcm for 2 days which has now eased off - I feel like I have ov'd? How strict is the 3 day rather than 2 day rule? I'm worried that if I don't count this and don't get any further raised temps then I will miss it entirely for this month, not take the progesterone when I should (4 dpo) and if I am lucky enough to get a bfp then it will be affected by me not being able to correctly interpret stats! Thank you in advance

 

[patiently]

Sooperhans looking at your chart did you take your temp at a different time today? I you did maybe wait until tomorrow and see what happens then. As your two temps cd 17/18 are almost the same temps as your previous cd's i would say that maybe you havent ovulated yet. But i could be wrong I am certainly not an expert when it comes to charting and have only done it for two months. GL i hope that you catch the egg. x

 

[Sooperhans]

Patiently! Lovely to hear from you, how are you hun?

Thank you for looking at my chart, how much have you raised before when you have ov'd? I thought cd17/18 was on the up, then got the reading today. Yeah, I woke up at a weird time and I think together with the clocks changing I'm a bit out, don't think my body realises we went forward an hour, d'oh! I just don't want to mess it all up and miss my date of when I should be taking my progesterone. I'll see what it says tomorrow, if it's raised then maybe I have ov'd? Xx

 

[patiently]

Im not too sure how much mine has raised by but you can have a look i have a link in my signature. I do think it takes a while to get used to what is normal for you as everyone is different, some people have a variation of temp rises i guess. When i did chart i looked at what temps were significantly higher than my previous ones and it has to stay raised for three days. During my last month of temping i didnt actually know what day i ovulated exactly and ff didnt mark it either but i had a feeling that i o'd on cd 30/31 Late huh? but i got pg though it is ectopic! I think i knew i o'd frm other signs i has watery cm on and off throughout my cycle so that wasnt too much of a giveaway for me but i usually get o pains and i think i got this whilst sleeping on cd30. Do you look for other signs too? Remember too that his swimmers can last for a good few days so im sure you wont miss your window if you bd 2/3 times a week. The times we bd like crazy i didnt get pg but the times we rarely bd i got my bfp! Good luck hun i'm sure if you havent o'd then you will soon try to bd every couple of days or so. Really hope you catch the egg.

AFM not sure how im feeling atm. Really tired of trips to and from the hospital. Had the shot to end our pregnancy last tuesday so need to wait until tomorrow to see if its working. Kind of bittersweet as this pregnancy is the furthest ive gone and its developing at a fast rate doubling every two days...just my luck aye? I think its going to take a while to be back to normal but we have to wait three months before ttc again anyway. On the bright side my granmother has heard news of my situation and wants to send me away to the caribbean to take my mind off of things in april/may, so thought that was lovely of her. But i feel bad allowing her to do so. I will see...Hope all the other ladies are doing well. 11 more weeks and hopefully i'll be back here with you all...Though i will be popping in from time to time. x

 

[Lukas]

Ladies I need your opinion, I still havent got my results back but I am sure some of my results would have got back to him and no news is good news.. I am still waiting for the karotype results as I no these take a bit longer.. But my question to you ladies is, I am due to O this week Dr said to wait til we got the results but I just don't want to waste a month especially of my tests come back all
Clear which I am praying they will.. What do you think? X

 

[annmariecrisp]

Ladies I need your opinion, I still havent got my results back but I am sure some of my results would have got back to him and no news is good news.. I am still waiting for the karotype results as I no these take a bit longer.. But my question to you ladies is, I am due to O this week Dr said to wait til we got the results but I just don't want to waste a month especially of my tests come back all
Clear which I am praying they will.. What do you think? X

Just cover your bases....I would anyway! and to be honest I have covered my bases even when i've been waiting on results! That's just my opinion. xxxx

 

[wookie130]

Wookie - I can't remember if I asked you this or not, but are you having trouble ovulating? I thought the Clomid was more for that, not low progesterone. I tested low for progesterone but when I asked about the Clomid they told me I did not need it because I OV. I should get the green light to try next month and I will be on progesterone suppositories starting 3 DPO.

Good question. I am on 50 mg, and due to my slightly lowish progesterone, I am not ovulating strongly enough. The clomid helps bring forth a better egg, ovulate more strongly, and it also helps produce a better corpus luteum, which in turn produces a higher level of progesterone. Clomid is a common way to boost progesterone, and for me it worked, as I became pregnant my first cycle on it, after trying for 6 cycles after my D&C. My unmedicated progesterone level was 7.74, and on Clomid, it was 18.98, which is great. So, you can see that the right dosage of Clomid will raise your progesterone levels.

I am also going to beg some Cyclogest suppositories off my OB next cycle once I'm in my luteal phase, just in case I'm as lucky on the Clomid as I was the first time.

 

[notoptimistic]

I am also on clomid even though I ovulate on my own. The doctor is hoping I will ovulate earlier than usual. Usual for me is between days 22-25. He is also thinking that I will ovulate two eggs (I'm on 100mg) to increase my chances of getting pregnant. I will be doing an iui. I was on clomid 50mg two cycles ago right before my first meeting with the RE. 50mg only pushed my day of ovulation to day 21, hopefully it will be sooner this time. My last cycle I was undergoing all the tests and wasn't on any meds. I definitely have heard that clomid is good for luteal phase defects, althouh I don't have that issue, the 50mg did give me a 17 day luteal phase!

 

[Sooperhans]

Thank you Patiently, it's interesting to see your chart, your temp goes quite high on the one where it did mark your ov. We'll see tomorrow, I'm just keen to be on top of it and know when it's the right time to take the progesterone. Strange that your last one didn't mark off, yes that would've been a late one for you at cd30..I think I got ov pain on cd16/17, I just want to see a soaring temp to stay to match it. Thank you, I hope to*catch it too, we're worn out with all the bd-ing, lol. Sod's law it'll be a month when we do it about twice!

I hope you get on well tomorrow, you've been really brave and it must have felt so relentless with all the hospital trips. Oh my gosh, you HAVE to take up your Grandmother's holiday trip, that is so what you need! A lovely bit of sun to recuperate will do you the world of good. I'm so pleased you have a family member to care and look after you. Enjoy every minute

Lukas - I'd go for it if I were you!

 

[wookie130]

Lukas, I'd jump on the opportunity, if at all possible...

Patiently, I hope you're getting through this okay...perhaps you should take your gran up on the Caribbean offer. It could be a very healing trip, emotionally, and a wonderful distraction!

 

[BeachChica]

Sooper - I would be sure you've O'd before you take the progesterone as I understand that can have some problems if you start it early. I think a couple days later would not be a huge deal. You can take a look at my charts in the link below as well. I have been charting for several months and I even have a pregnancy cycle on there too. I usually get a drop a couple days past O but the temps are still higher than pre-O. I can't remember if you said, how long is your cycle usually?

Lukas - unless you are anxious to get started I would say wait. If there is any kind of problem your doctor may want to put you on some meds to correct that instead of getting pregnant and suffering another possible loss. I have been through a lot of testing and they have made some adjustments to things along the way. Just my opinion though.

Wookie - interesting about the Clomid!

Patiently - hope everything goes Ok with your appointment!

 

[Lukas]

I just called the Dr and some of the tests have come back and all normal now just need to wait for mine and hubby karotype tests to come back which prob won't be until next week.. If something comes back abnormal where do we go from there? Thank you for all your support x