Hello ladies, sorry been MIA cause got mum coming today and I attempted to clean!
First of all Welcome
Leikela and
AmeliaLily! How lovely to have new mummies and LO join us

We would love to see some pics of your LOs if you want to share. Leikela love your avvie pic! Very cute smiley girl
Leikela I know how you feel re the time she does sleep but my boys or rather Dominic has never ever slept 8 hours at a stretch so I think your LO is on to the right thing here. And in time you will be able to adjust things I am sure

I didn't BF but my boys got into a day and night routine at around 8 weeks I think. Does Kayla not sleep at all till 4:30? If so it might be that she doesn't yet realise what is night and what is daytime? You could actually help her with this by choosing a bedtime for her and keeping everything dark, quiet and boring from then on till she should be awake in the morning. So you could for example choose 8pm as her bedtime and even if she at first is still not sleeping till the wee morning hours, don't play with her during that time, only talk to her in a hushed voice and a lot less than you would during the day. I suppose you will sleep as long as she does at the moment so you cannot really act all day like at 8am (Babies usually need around 12 hours in all for their night sleep) but if you do get up before her, don't be all hushed around her and do put the lights on etc. Might make for a grumpy baby for a few days but she will catch on
Leeze I am glad you are feeling better you poor thing. How is Kia? I hope she hasn't caught it from you? I hope last night was better for you and Kia and you both got some sleep.
Borboleta how is Thiago's cold? I hope he isn't too poorly with it? Actually Dominic also has a bit of a snotty nose and it makes him snort a bit in his sleep but the vaporiser in their room does seem to help. Is your humidifier one of those where you could put essential oils into it? That might really help his breathing.
Storm I really hope sleep boot camp is getting better and easier. I know you would feel bad if there turns out to be something wrong with her kidney and all but I really don't think that you are harming her by having her in the cot. As far as I understand she sleeps badly in your bed too? I really hope last night was better for you and you managed to get some sleep
Claire your poor LO! I really hope she feels better soon. But as for still not sleeping! How dreadful! Could you perhaps do a sleep training thing too? I cannot remember if you tried this already? Hope last night was better.
Clio your research is very impressive! We had Babybjörns but sold them on without using them when I read how many mums on here didn't like them. We did use a normal one from Mothercare once or twice but then got the Ergo with the insert and both boys love being so close to their dad

They both still drop off on him when he takes them out in it. Obviously they haven't had the newborn insert for ages now.
I hope you got some decent sleep last night and didn't have another bout of insomnia.
Sabrina I can imagine that it might be quite scary with Finn trying to stand like that and then falling! Means you cannot taker your eye off him for a moment! But woohoo for the walking!
What an adorable pic of him in his Santa hat though

And I love the jumperoo thing he is in. He obviously loves it

As for grumpy baby before sleeping. Well I agree with you, I would put up with that too if it meant my boys would sttn and got more decent sleep.
Good luck at the doctor's today. I hope he will give you some thing more effective for your sinuses
Charlie as I said to Leikela I think my boys were about 8 weeks old when we started a bedtime routine and they understood the concept of bedtime as opposed to nap time. Back then we put them to bed in the nursery at around 8 to 9 I think depending on their feeds. They weren't BF so ate every 3 hours. From their bedtime on we just kept the nursery dark and had the white noise on and tried to interact with them as little as possible. We also started to not change their nappies unless they did a poo (or were leaking), as that always woke them too much. That part worked out quite well from early on and they started to not poo at night. Does Sophia sleep in bed with you or do you have a cot/moses basket by your bed for her?
Hope she gave you a good stretch of sleep again last night
As for us... Well last night Dominic woke at 4:20 and I didn't jump up to give him his water bottle cause I really thought he was used to it by now that there is no more feeds at that time of night. So I thought I'd wait and see if he would resettle. He did not. So after 20 minutes of watching him cry, I went in there and offered the water bottle which of course he didn't want. He had been really sobbing so I didn't have the heart to depart right away. I sat by his bed and stroked his hair a bit and all the while he was looking at me with huge eyes in the semi darkness. I went to close the window a little and he started sobbing again cause he couldn't see me any more, my poor little boy! I sat with him for another 20 minutes and he would just not drop off again so I left him to it and then had to watch him cry on the monitor till about 5:30. He then finally feel asleep. I feel like a beast! At 6 Sebastian woke and I went in and replugged him with his dummy but thought well this is it for tonight then but went back to bed anyway. But lo and behold he did drop off again and woke at 7:15! Dominic slept on till 7:40 when I woke him. He is all smiles this morning as usual and I feel I don't deserve him!
I have to go now, cause the fibre optic install guy is due any time now. Also my attempts at cleaning were not great yesterday so I better hop to it. xxx