Anyone else now trying again STRAIGHT after a mc? NTNP?

[sarah_anne]

Hi girls had my scan and I'm doomed again. There is a sac with nothing in it. To make matters worse they can't rule out ectopic as there's something called a donut mass which means there could be a pregnancy in my other tube. I had this scare with my last pregnancy though and it just turned out to be a miscarriage. Back to square one! Can't believe that's four miscarriages in a year.

Oh Fili! I'm so sorry honey!!!! This breaks my heart! I can't even begin to imagine how you must feel. I know there's nothing I can say that will help, but please let any of us know if you want to talk. We all love you.

 

[dodgercpkl]

Hi girls had my scan and I'm doomed again. There is a sac with nothing in it. To make matters worse they can't rule out ectopic as there's something called a donut mass which means there could be a pregnancy in my other tube. I had this scare with my last pregnancy though and it just turned out to be a miscarriage. Back to square one! Can't believe that's four miscarriages in a year.

NO NO NO NO NO! Not fair! Are they absolutely sure that there is no way that a bean was missed?! I'm so so so sorry.

 

[auntylolo]

Dodger and Fili, what awful news from both of you to come back to. I really am truely sorry for the both of you
Dodger, you must be destroyed after all the not knowing but hoping. Are you having blood tests to keep an eye on your numbers? Take care of yourself hun, you've got some healing to do x
Fili, are the hospital running tests or something to confirm the donut mass and it's implications? Hope you can get home soon x
There's nothing much else to say, but you know that already

 

[Lozdi]

Oh Dogder and Fili, I;m sososososososo sorry I don;t quite know what to say....Fili, is there any chance, any chance at all? You had no nightmares, no cramps, so maybe this one wasn't a healthy egg? If it was your NK cells, then surely it would have been the same as before? What on earth are donut masses? You've seen your beans in previous scans right? I can;t believe this is happening its so unfair.

Dodger, did they scan you to be sure just how much was left? Get on their case if they didn't you want them to monitor you closely and get it sorted asap you don;t want it dragged out month by month if your numbers keep trying to 'correct' them selves.

Hello the rest of you Ladies I'm afraid I don;t have much to say now, just that its good we have eachother to get through these bad times.

Just one question from me today- what would cause a temp on FF to be an open circle even when its down as being taken at the same time as every other temp this cycle?

 

[auntylolo]

Loz, have you noted a fever or were you drinking last night? That's the only thing I can think of. Hope your day's going ok xx

 

[loubyloumum]

Oh my goodness ladies - I am so very very sorry for you both I cant believe what I have just read
I feel so heartbroken for you both I just want to give you both the biggest hug
Dodger I'm so sorry your hopes turned into a nightmare for you after having to wait it out for so long I know how you are feeling as I had had a couple of weeks of hope before mc was confirmed for me after many blood test and scans and it is so hard to accept - I'm so very sorry
And Fili, I cant believe it. I'm just absolutely devastated for you my love. I cant believe this is happening to you again. I don't understand how cruel this life can be to us sometimes Oh I'm in tears typing this I wish I could offer you some more comfort. I felt so confident for you this time. I am thinking of you dearly xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Tarabay]

Oh no fili!!!!!! I'm on my fone so can't say much but just wanted to let u no how sorry I am! I'm devasted for u, can't believe how cruel life can be sometimes! I hope ur home soon!all my love

 

[pinksmarties]

Dodger and fili - I am so sorry, I know there is nothing I can say that can help take away the pain.

Fili - oh god noo, I really can't believe it. Is there absolutely any way that it is just too early to see anything other than the sac? Is it not still early to confirm BO just yet? I am in tears for you, just heartbroken, I truly can't believe it. I can only imaging how you are feeling now. I just want to be there to give you love and hugs.

Dodger, having that hope for 2 weeks to have it taken away must be so horrible. It is awful to have to go through this again. Just know we are here for you, sending love and hugs.

 

[Lozdi]

I noted down sleep deprived...as I was kept up all night long with one 30 mins exception where I passed out. I retreated to the sofa at about 5 am and spent the night there. Did get my 4 hours before temping though. There is not a big heat difference between upstairs and downstairs. Nothing noted today that I haven;t noted previously in my chart. Maybe its gone open circle because its my highest temp so far? No fever, no drinking. Not sure I even care about my chart atm, not with whats happening to Fili and Dogder. Maybe the open circle means today sucks, because it does.

 

[auntylolo]

I noted down sleep deprived...as I was kept up all night long with one 30 mins exception where I passed out. I retreated to the sofa at about 5 am and spent the night there. Did get my 4 hours before temping though. There is not a big heat difference between upstairs and downstairs. Nothing noted today that I haven;t noted previously in my chart. Maybe its gone open circle because its my highest temp so far? No fever, no drinking. Not sure I even care about my chart atm, not with whats happening to Fili and Dogder. Maybe the open circle means today sucks, because it does.

Same. It's just another shitty thing to happen in a totally shitty year

 

[pinksmarties]

loz - I know what you mean. Can't wait till see the back of this totally shitty year.

Your circle is because you put in sleep deprived. It won't really affect anything though.

 

[Chele78]

Fili and dodger, so sorry to hear both your news.... Massive hugs

 

[Lozdi]

Its weird, it never gave me an open circle last time I had sleep dep. Ahh the mysteries of FF.

I tell you, 1012 needs to be an epic year otherwise I am going to flip my lid. I have had enough of seeing bad things happen to people I care about.

 

[Lozdi]

Closed circle now I removed sleep dep. I had 4 hours before I temped anyway.

 

[pinksmarties]

Closed circle now I removed sleep dep. I had 4 hours before I temped anyway.

ooo... nice temp rise today!! Lets hope yesterday was implantation and your temps keep rising!! 9dpo +ve would be good, first one in 2012, I really hope so.

That's if Sarah can wait that long to test!!

 

[LindzLee]

I am new to this forum...been reading lots of story and they have me feeling hopeful and scared. My husband and I conceived on first try after our wedding in October...very excited at our first us on 11-21 we found out we were expecting twins at 7 w 3 days everything looked very health and we heard both heart beats. Sad to hear on our 11 w 6 d ultrasound there was no growth and no fhr on both twins they had stopped growing at 7w 5d. very devestated we waited for a mc on my own...nothing happened which was a missed miscarriage so i had a d&C 12-29 as of yesterday. I know the way people say waiting one cycle but as a labor nurse i honestly feel its for dates...you constantly shed your lining and i have seen proof you are very fertile after a miscarriage or d&C. I strongly hope that it is the same for us since it was so easy the first time and we so badly want to be parents. THe healing for this is very tough and I feel another pregnancy can help us but would be frightening at the same time. Anybody with similar experiences?

 

[Lozdi]

I rather think that perhaps it is hotter downstairs than upstairs. Can't explain yesterdays low temp though, probably just a fluctuation.

 

[Lozdi]

I am new to this forum...been reading lots of story and they have me feeling hopeful and scared. My husband and I conceived on first try after our wedding in October...very excited at our first us on 11-21 we found out we were expecting twins at 7 w 3 days everything looked very health and we heard both heart beats. Sad to hear on our 11 w 6 d ultrasound there was no growth and no fhr on both twins they had stopped growing at 7w 5d. very devestated we waited for a mc on my own...nothing happened which was a missed miscarriage so i had a d&C 12-29 as of yesterday. I know the way people say waiting one cycle but as a labor nurse i honestly feel its for dates...you constantly shed your lining and i have seen proof you are very fertile after a miscarriage or d&C. I strongly hope that it is the same for us since it was so easy the first time and we so badly want to be parents. THe healing for this is very tough and I feel another pregnancy can help us but would be frightening at the same time. Anybody with similar experiences?

Hello there Lindz, I'm so sorry for your loss The reason that you are advised to wait after a D&C is not so much for dating purposes, but to ensure your lining has rebuilt. It would help if you could speak to the doctor who did yours, and ask how much lining they had to remove- if it was alot then wait, if it was just a light amount then no wait will be necessary. The last thing you want to do is rush after a D&C unless you know for sure your lining can support a pregnancy. Found this:

'The endometrial lining is measured by vaginal ultrasound. It is a biological indicator of how ready the uterus is to receive the fertilised egg. Medical studies have yet to define what the optimal thickness of the lining is for a successful pregnancy. In general, 8-13mm is good, less than six is potentially a problem, and greater than 14 could also reduce chances for pregnancy. Pregnancies, however, do occur when the thickness is less than 6mm, but not as often.

Besides endometrial thickness, fertility specialists also look at the endometrial pattern. A triple-layer or trilaminar pattern for the endometrium would be optimal for implantation. Nonetheless, pregnancies could still occur when there is a non-trilaminar pattern.'

I had a 9mm lining and the trilaminar pattern 3 weeks after my MMC, but I had the medical.

 

[LindzLee]

thanks for your help

 

[mohini12]

Just waiting in hospital now they're keeping me in

oh no fili!oh no!i posted before i was hoping you were ok.but just seeing your post its really devasting.its
really heartbreaking news for all of us.i am just thinking for you.i am really sorry dear.
with hug and love