anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[Indigo77]

I tried it and it did mess up my cycle...but it works for other people.

how did it mess up your cycle?

 

[sarahincanada]

terone.

I have to admit, I'm terrified about multiples. My doc told me yesterday, that there is a 12% chance of multiples with it. That scares the crap out of me.

I was told 10% chance of twins and less than 1% for three or more. They say the chance is much lower at our age, as the chance of all good eggs and them fertilizing and implanting is low. Theres so many people who take the medications and dont get pregnant so I dont worry about the small risk. will you have follicle monitoring? as then you can see if you stimulate more than one egg like I did.

guess what everyone, Im spotting I havent spotted days before a period since my polyp removal. So now Im thinking as my temp is so low perhaps AF will come tomorrow. That gives me a 12 day LP which is less than my regular 14 day, unless I ovulated the day of my trigger shot and FF is wrong. (and no, before anyone says anything, Im sure its not IB!)

 

[Indigo77]

i guess i should....oh well....
it's cd3...need to get the soy today...
have u tried it?

I haven't bc I have a script for Clomid, I didn't see the need. You do have some leeway as to when you decide to take it. It will depend on whether or not you are going for multiple smaller eggs or one or two larger ones. You'll have to decide on the dosage as well.

Two women are on it on the other thread that I frequent and one had her OV date moved up by several days it seems.

No idea what i am going for and don't know about the dosage either...
I thought it was just 100 mg for days 3-7.....?.....

 

[dachsundmom]

Ready- I was told 10% on the Clomid for multiples and 15% on the Tamoxifen.

 

[LLbean]

made it longer and instead of ovulating between day 12 and 13 it moved it to CD16...mind you, it didn't do it for the cycle I took it but the one after...that was the only thing I did different so I know that was it

 

[dachsundmom]

Indigo- you might want to take a look at the soy thread in TTC or on the discussions page. There is a lot of info there or you could hit up "taking it easy this cycle..." on TTC. Mammag and USAFwife are both on the soy and could give you some answers.

 

[Indigo77]

made it longer and instead of ovulating between day 12 and 13 it moved it to CD16...mind you, it didn't do it for the cycle I took it but the one after...that was the only thing I did different so I know that was it

how much did u take and for which days?

 

[LLbean]

day 3 to 7 and I believe it was 200mg a day

 

[Indigo77]

how did you decide on 200 mgs?
i thought i read 50 mgs of Clomid = 100 mgs of SI...

 

[LLbean]

no it is the other way around...clomid is stronger than the SI

found this on a thread "Soy works because it inhibits estrogen receptors (just like Clomid) making your body think that it's lacking in estrogen. This perceived lack of estrogen puts you into overtime for producing LH and FSH, both of which are needed for a good, strong ovulation. Anything you might have ever read on how or why Clomid works, the same exact principles apply with Soy Isoflavones. As PH said, it has been shown to cause infertility in animals, and I don't know what effect it would have on humans if taken every day... but taking it for the 5 days per cycle will result (usually) in a quality ovulation 5-10 days after the last dose. The only other difference is that it takes twice as much Soy to equal a Clomid dose... so 50mg of Clomid is 100mg of Soy."

Also saw this online
""Soy Isoflavones" is a natural plant derived phytoestrogen (phyto means plant), which is an anti-estrogen, just like Clomid. Both are known as SERMs (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators). It works by fooling your brain into thinking its estrogen levels are low. This causes your body to reslease more FSH & LH which helps stimulate follicle production (same as Clomid). You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on CD 1-5 or 2-6, or 3-7 or 5-9. It is not thought to cause infertility if it is only taken for 5 days a month. There is not much published information available on it regarding TTC, because it is "natural", not patented by the pharmaceutical companies, and not FDA approved. Most doctors will also not recommend it for this reason.
Recently, many women on FertilityFriend.com have been taking 150-160mg a day for 5 days at the beginning of the menstrual cycle (on days previously mentioned). Side effects reported are similar to Clomid. These vary from increased number of headaches to hot flashes. It has been suggested that taking the dosage before bedtime lessens the side effects."

I did 200 cause I could not find a pill that gave me 50mgs so I thought better to get a tad bit more than less LOL

 

[hockey24]

SarahinCanada - sorry to hear AF is coming. I followed your cycle and had hoped the clomid would work for you on the first go round.

Readyformore - we are starting out this month together! Let's hope this is our month!! Hope the Day 3 testing come back good as well.

 

[readyformore]

terone.

I have to admit, I'm terrified about multiples. My doc told me yesterday, that there is a 12% chance of multiples with it. That scares the crap out of me.

I was told 10% chance of twins and less than 1% for three or more. They say the chance is much lower at our age, as the chance of all good eggs and them fertilizing and implanting is low. Theres so many people who take the medications and dont get pregnant so I dont worry about the small risk. will you have follicle monitoring? as then you can see if you stimulate more than one egg like I did.

Well, that's a good way of putting it. I believe that this is truly the only benefit of being older while ttc, lol! Fewer good eggs to fertilize and implant from clomid!

I will absolutely need monitoring. Clomid thins my uterine lining and I'm prone to cysts. It was 9 years ago, but at that time, I had 3 follicles that matured. We'll see what happens now.

I will still try clomid, I'm just not keen on twins. While ttc my first, it would have been okay. But, it would not be good for us right now. I just really don't want to do anything to put it onto myself. I don't want to blame myself for the difficulty that ensues. If that makes sense.

 

[dachsundmom]

Today is my last day of Tamoxifen and I can honestly say, no SE at all and for the first time in my life I know what EWCM is, lol.

My Ovacue says I have hit my fertile period, so we'll see. According to it, my most fertile day should be Monday, so I am anxious to see if this holds true.

How is everyone else?

 

[sarahincanada]

hi everyone, just popping on dont have time to read the posts....AF came today, 1 day early! I had completely prepared myself for it with the terrible temps so Im ok, not need to reply with hugs just reply with PMA!! we can do this ladies, Im looking at the big picture not the month to month. I will go to the clinic on friday to start a new cycle, Im hoping they can tell me how many follicles ovulated...I think I read they can see that? have a great day everyone

 

[velo]

Best wishes for next cycle!

 

[GreenFingers]

Hi all, just go say I have enjoyed reading all about your individual journeys through fertility treatment. My follow up appointment is not until the end of August so I have decided to take the next 2 months off.
I need to stop thinking about ttc and enjoy the summer so won't be around for a while, good luck to you all and I'm sure there wil be loads of BFP by the time I return x

 

[dachsundmom]

to a new cycle Sarah!

 

[loli1111]

hi every body

 

[mrsdh]

Wishing you lots of luck for your next cycle Sarah xx

 

[Indigo77]

On to the next cycle........and too bad...I am going to sneak in a .....