anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[Cypress]

readyformore - Arghh - why didn't my clinic give me estrace? I've never heard of it before, thanks for mentioning it. At my scan on CD9 when they found the lining to be thin I asked them if there was anything they could give me to help the lining, and I asked again today CD14, and they always said no. I'm going to ring them tomorrow to ask about this.

Hockey24 - that's a good point, I would think that a too-thin lining would not be great for IVFing. Will need to ask about that.

Sarahincanada - it could well be that my lining is normally thin, I have wondered about that in the past as my periods are light and short. But the doctor seemed to think it has to do with the clomid, maybe that's must making it worse. I did fall pregnant earlier this year, but unfortunately miscarried, so I hope that means that implantation is possible for me. Good luck on Monday when yours is checked again.

 

[sarahincanada]

readyformore - Arghh - why didn't my clinic give me estrace? I've never heard of it before, thanks for mentioning it. At my scan on CD9 when they found the lining to be thin I asked them if there was anything they could give me to help the lining, and I asked again today CD14, and they always said no. I'm going to ring them tomorrow to ask about this.

Hockey24 - that's a good point, I would think that a too-thin lining would not be great for IVFing. Will need to ask about that.

Sarahincanada - it could well be that my lining is normally thin, I have wondered about that in the past as my periods are light and short. But the doctor seemed to think it has to do with the clomid, maybe that's must making it worse. I did fall pregnant earlier this year, but unfortunately miscarried, so I hope that means that implantation is possible for me. Good luck on Monday when yours is checked again.

hmmmm why would they say theres nothing for a thin lining when theres quite a few things available? also to immediately assume the clomid has thinned your lining...your MC could have been from the thin lining, too bad it wasnt checked before going on clomid. I hope you can talk to them about the medication ready mentioned

 

[Cypress]

hmmmm why would they say theres nothing for a thin lining when theres quite a few things available? also to immediately assume the clomid has thinned your lining...your MC could have been from the thin lining, too bad it wasnt checked before going on clomid. I hope you can talk to them about the medication ready mentioned

Thanks I remember that they said they couldn't give anything to assist the lining because it would counteract the effects of the clomid (on increased follicle development). I think I see their point, as clomid works by suppressing the body's recognition of estrogen in order to make it produce more FSH which grows more follicles, so if I took extra estrogen (such as Estrace), it might reduce FSH and therefore wouldn't grow more follicles. I don't know if there are non-estrogen solutions to the thin lining.

I have no reason to think the mc was caused by the lining, it was quite a few weeks along so well implanted in the lining by then. I'm pretty sure it was a chromosomal issue.

Edit the next morning (Weds): Just heard back from the clinic - my blood test showed v high estrogen: 4000; they said there's normally 1000 per egg, so this may indicate the presence of 4 eggs. So they said that giving me more estrogen would be unlikely to help the lining, as it's so high already - but it is a mystery to them why the lining is so thin with so much estrogen present; they're going to discuss my case at a team meeting later today. Upshot is that they've told me that with potentially 4 eggs and hence the risk of multiples, they must abandon the IUI, and have advised us not to try naturally, ie use condoms. How bizarre.

 

[LLbean]

Well it went well...according to my doctor my egg reserves are that of a 38 year old (so that is at least 3 years less LOL) and Hubby is finding out how to pay for it...there is a "plan" where you pay a bit more than the usual price and it covers you for 2 full cycles so we are thinking that is the best bet since no one can predict how many eggs we get. She said with me she would use one good egg or two tops...I'm voting for the 2 embryos just to be safe.

They will do the genetic testing on the embryos too to be safe...yes you may still develop something later on but it is highly unlikely she said, and that an NT scan should determine that.

Hubby had some blood drawn today too (lucky *******...only 3 vials for him...against my 17 total!) but that is all he needs other than the collection on the day of egg retrieval.

She told me I do have borderline something or another that causes potential clots whcih can get in the way of the embryo attaching to the wall SO she is giving me something for that (don't recall the name)...I told her about my dreadful experience with the baby aspirin so she is aware of it...she says that was because I did it at the end of my cycle ...or something like that. So she will be keeping an eye on me for sure.

The only med I remember her saying for me was Lupron to suppress ovulation, then I get the HCG trigger shot before retrieval...Progesterone will be injected daily after retrieval as well...so oil? Wish it was not injected but apparently that is the best way...so gotta do it.

Next week ...depending on fabulous Jury Duty again (I had to go March 14th and got called AGAIN!...ugh...) I shall go to do the Sounding (trial Embryo Transfer...just to see where they will put them) and to be taught on the way of the shots and what not. If my AF is on time then August 20th I should start the round of stuff...only 10 days away!

OH, once they put the embryos in in 10 days they can tell if I am pregnant or not...pretty neat right? They will monitor me as my OB/Gyn for the first 8 to 10 weeks, after that I get to go to the regular ob/gym.

 

[sarahincanada]

very exciting LL! and thats good that your eggs are 3 years younger Im sure the injections will be fine, I was nervous giving myself the ovidrel but you honestly dont even feel the needle....Im sure the medications will be similar ...extremely thin needles. I havent heard anyone in the assisted conception folder talk about how awful the injections are.

I think I have read about a plan where you pay more and get covered for more than 1 cycle, I cant remember if I read it at my clinic or somewhere else. I would also do that, if you get lucky first time then great you will be happy and who cares about the extra, and if not you are not paying for another cycle in full.

how did they test for the clot thing? see thats what I like about going for treatments, you get tests that show things you might not know you have. the clot thing could have been the problem for you all along.

interesting about the genetic testing too....I will have to remember all this for when I see my FS in october.

As for me, Im just waiting for mondays ultrasound

 

[sarahincanada]

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Edit the next morning (Weds): Just heard back from the clinic - my blood test showed v high estrogen: 4000; they said there's normally 1000 per egg, so this may indicate the presence of 4 eggs. So they said that giving me more estrogen would be unlikely to help the lining, as it's so high already - but it is a mystery to them why the lining is so thin with so much estrogen present; they're going to discuss my case at a team meeting later today. Upshot is that they've told me that with potentially 4 eggs and hence the risk of multiples, they must abandon the IUI, and have advised us not to try naturally, ie use condoms. How bizarre.

I just noticed this edit....are you serious they would abandon IUI with 4 eggs? that is so surprising, they must be a conservative clinic as when you are over 35 the chance of all eggs being good, getting fertilized and implanting is so low. And to also say not to do intercourse? wow thats very conservative.

Also the 1000 per egg....I read its nearer 500 per egg, thats why my 2000 was good for 4 follicles! going by their reading my 2000 would support only 2 follicles. Its so confusing!

let us know what ends up happening....could they not convert this cycle to IVF as I think you were going for IVF in the future right?

 

[LLbean]

All my tests were blood work, I will get you the name of the clot one in the morning. There are some injections hubby will have to give me cause it is intra muscular in the hip? May be the progesterone ones...

 

[LLbean]

Ok the blood work was called Thrombophelia workup

I will be on Follistim or Gonal F (depending on what my insurance covers) Prenisone, Folguard and heparin

Other than that Progesterone and the HCG trigger shot

 

[crystal443]

Ok the blood work was called Thrombophelia workup

I will be on Follistim or Gonal F (depending on what my insurance covers) Prenisone, Folguard and heparin

Other than that Progesterone and the HCG trigger shot

That's great..so you'll be on a Flare cycle quick and easy..I am set to start around the 25th of August as long as B12 and blood comes back fine if not it'll be September long enough to increase my B12. I'm taking Synarel nasal spray to supress ovulation, Puregon to stim..can't remember what the trigger is Ovidrel maybe??? and Crinone I think for progesterone. It's very exciting though

 

[hockey24]

So getting prepped for my 1st IUI that is now scheduled for Monday morning. I'm so excited!!

Went this morning and my lining measured 8.3 - which I'm told is normal and I had 2 follies that both measured 14mm. So I'm going back on Sunday to re-measure and get the HCG shot and then Monday its a free limo ride for my husbands sperm!

 

[sarahincanada]

So getting prepped for my 1st IUI that is now scheduled for Monday morning. I'm so excited!!

Went this morning and my lining measured 8.3 - which I'm told is normal and I had 2 follies that both measured 14mm. So I'm going back on Sunday to re-measure and get the HCG shot and then Monday its a free limo ride for my husbands sperm!

how exciting!
my clinic wants follices to be 17mm or over, Im assuming your will grow larger by monday so will be interesting to see the size. Lining is great! woo-hoo cant wait to hear how it goes, Im hoping to have mine on Wednesday

 

[hockey24]

Thanks Sarah! The nurse said they at least need 16mm and they should grow approximately 2mm per day - so by Monday, I should be good to go. Would have like to seen more follies but hey 2 is nothing to complain about!

Good luck to you to!!

 

[Isabel209]

hello ladies i really need to speak to someone this morning. my af is due in 2 days and i have just did a clearblue pregnancy test and it says that i am 1-2 weeks PREGNANT!!!!!!! could this be real? or could it be faulty? i still have period symptoms like sore boobs, low abdominal pain and a bit of back pain... what advice do you give me ? should i rely on the test?

 

[bbyno1]

Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck ladies!

 

[babyforus]

hello ladies i really need to speak to someone this morning. my af is due in 2 days and i have just did a clearblue pregnancy test and it says that i am 1-2 weeks PREGNANT!!!!!!! could this be real? or could it be faulty? i still have period symptoms like sore boobs, low abdominal pain and a bit of back pain... what advice do you give me ? should i rely on the test?

Hi Isabel,

Congratulations!!! A line is a line so to speak. Unless you took hcg shots or something to interfere with the test I'd say your expecting!!! You must have a high concentration of hcg to get the clearblue to give you a positive pregnancy 1-2 week wording. Those usually take more than the others. Congratulations.

 

[LLbean]

hello ladies i really need to speak to someone this morning. my af is due in 2 days and i have just did a clearblue pregnancy test and it says that i am 1-2 weeks PREGNANT!!!!!!! could this be real? or could it be faulty? i still have period symptoms like sore boobs, low abdominal pain and a bit of back pain... what advice do you give me ? should i rely on the test?

Sounds like you are pregnant indeed!

I would go see your doctor for confirmation...CONGRATS!!!

FYI, AF symptoms are quite similar to early pregnancy symptoms so don't let that fool you

 

[Isabel209]

thanks a lot ladies....i went to my doctor and took a blood test but results will be out next week. i will keep you guys posted xxx

 

[hockey24]

Congrats Isabel!! Sounds like good news to me!!

 

[crystal443]

Well I'm excited..my bloodwork all came back fine so we've made our first payment for IVF on Fri!!!! We could have started this cycle coming up wich would have been Aug 23-25..but because DH works in education its hard for him to take time off for all the appointments in the first few weeks so my Sept. cycle runs into Term break which is 2 weeks off and it will hit at the perfect time for us so we'll wait until then We planned on September initially anyway so I'm good with that!!

 

[Indigo77]

Good luck ladies.....