anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[crystal443]

Hi.

Quick question. Is anyone on Estradiol (Estrace I think) during your TWW?

Sarah, it's awesome that you've found the money for November!

no but the nurse mentioned that for an ivf cycle....are you on it then?

I think Ive found the money, but Im self employed and we own a business that sometimes needs our money to cover payroll so its not definite. but I can hope!!

Sarah, that's fantastic news!!! I'm self employed as well which is how we're funding our cycle

 

[readyformore]

Hi.

Quick question. Is anyone on Estradiol (Estrace I think) during your TWW?

Sarah, it's awesome that you've found the money for November!

I took it for IUI, but it was prior to ov.

 

[JanetPlanet]

I took one dose and then I found this on the label:

"Estradiol has been assigned to pregnancy category X by the FDA. There are no controlled data in human pregnancy. Estradiol is contraindicated during pregnancy."

and

"This medicine is not effective in preventing or treating a tendency toward miscarriage nor the threat of miscarriage. This medicine must not be used during pregnancy because its use may result in birth defects or cancer later in the child's life (see CAUTIONS section). "

YIKES.

After I emailed my dr this info, he just said, "It's okay to take." But I'm not taking it anymore. I would rather not get pregnant, than make my child suffer with cancer. Yes, I am paranoid. But that's my job as a mom.

 

[readyformore]

I took one dose and then I found this on the label:

"Estradiol has been assigned to pregnancy category X by the FDA. There are no controlled data in human pregnancy. Estradiol is contraindicated during pregnancy."

and

"This medicine is not effective in preventing or treating a tendency toward miscarriage nor the threat of miscarriage. This medicine must not be used during pregnancy because its use may result in birth defects or cancer later in the child's life (see CAUTIONS section). "

YIKES.

After I emailed my dr this info, he just said, "It's okay to take." But I'm not taking it anymore. I would rather not get pregnant, than make my child suffer with cancer. Yes, I am paranoid. But that's my job as a mom.

Clomid thinned my lining, so basically, I had to take estrace, or I never would have had any implantation.

Why would you take it after ov?

 

[JanetPlanet]

From the little I've read, it's not uncommon to be prescribed Estradiol after ovulation. And is used often for IVF cycles. It's good for your lining apparently.

It's weird because my lining was great the day before my IUI at 10mm.

Am I being unreasonable not taking this? Crap, the uncertainty is very stressful.

 

[readyformore]

From the little I've read, it's not uncommon to be prescribed Estradiol after ovulation. And is used often for IVF cycles. It's good for your lining apparently.

It's weird because my lining was great the day before my IUI at 10mm.

Am I being unreasonable not taking this? Crap, the uncertainty is very stressful.

With a 10mm lining, no I don't think you're being unreasonable to skip it.

Remind me, are you doing IUI of IVF? If it's IUI, I wouldn't hesitate to skip it, but I know very little about IVF and I would really get a second opinion from a doc prior to skipping an IVF med. Maybe they are using the med for another purpose?

 

[sarahincanada]

I took one dose and then I found this on the label:

"Estradiol has been assigned to pregnancy category X by the FDA. There are no controlled data in human pregnancy. Estradiol is contraindicated during pregnancy."

and

"This medicine is not effective in preventing or treating a tendency toward miscarriage nor the threat of miscarriage. This medicine must not be used during pregnancy because its use may result in birth defects or cancer later in the child's life (see CAUTIONS section). "

YIKES.

After I emailed my dr this info, he just said, "It's okay to take." But I'm not taking it anymore. I would rather not get pregnant, than make my child suffer with cancer. Yes, I am paranoid. But that's my job as a mom.

Clomid thinned my lining, so basically, I had to take estrace, or I never would have had any implantation.

Why would you take it after ov?

yes I seem to think they mentioned it for before ovulation, I think it was in the conversation about using it as a down reg medicine, nothing about after ovulation. with those side effects you wouldnt think it would be recommended after ov. urgghh this is so stressful JP!

 

[JanetPlanet]

Ready, I did an IUI on Monday.

the 15mm is now 16mm and the 12mm still the same

Sarah, don't give up yet! Last week I had the 13mm with another 7 smaller ones on the right side. And then 2-3 smaller ones on the left.

Then when I went in on Sunday, the 2-3 smaller ones were both 18mm and the 13mm on the right side was still only 13mm. The dr said he's sees that all the time and there's no telling which follicles will do what.

It really does only take one. And I so hope this is the one for you!

This is post is in danger of being really long, but I wanted to tell y'all about my husband's sperm. LMAO. That sounds ridiculous.

My hubs has been having SA's for the past two years. I think he's had 4-5 of them. I wanted to see if his sperm was compromised by too much BDing so we had an SA done after abstaining for 3 days, and then another one BDing the night before. Turns out that the more BDing we have, the better his sperm is. It's always been good, but it's even better after BDing.

We BD'd on Saturday night, Sunday afternoon, then he "performed" into a cup at the lab. (Which he said was the most unsexy thing he's ever done.) And his prewash number was 106 million. That was after BDing like 16 hours earlier. His postwash number was like 35 million with 85% motility.

So, my point to all this is...if you have access to inexpensive - or better yet, insurance-covered SA's. Have a few done to see what BDing actually does to the numbers.

 

[sarahincanada]

Ready, I did an IUI on Monday.

the 15mm is now 16mm and the 12mm still the same

Sarah, don't give up yet! Last week I had the 13mm with another 7 smaller ones on the right side. And then 2-3 smaller ones on the left.

Then when I went in on Sunday, the 2-3 smaller ones were both 18mm and the 13mm on the right side was still only 13mm. The dr said he's sees that all the time and there's no telling which follicles will do what.

It really does only take one. And I so hope this is the one for you!

This is post is in danger of being really long, but I wanted to tell y'all about my husband's sperm. LMAO. That sounds ridiculous.

My hubs has been having SA's for the past two years. I think he's had 4-5 of them. I wanted to see if his sperm was compromised by too much BDing so we had an SA done after abstaining for 3 days, and then another one BDing the night before. Turns out that the more BDing we have, the better his sperm is. It's always been good, but it's even better after BDing.

We BD'd on Saturday night, Sunday afternoon, then he "performed" into a cup at the lab. (Which he said was the most unsexy thing he's ever done.) And his prewash number was 106 million. That was after BDing like 16 hours earlier. His postwash number was like 35 million with 85% motility.

So, my point to all this is...if you have access to inexpensive - or better yet, insurance-covered SA's. Have a few done to see what BDing actually does to the numbers.

that very interesting, how much was the count when he abstained for 3 days?
mine went down.....4 days abstaining = 29 million, 85% motility, 1 day = 5 million, 55% motility (was frozen and thawed too so that would have lost some, but still the count was way down)

 

[JanetPlanet]

124.4 million after having sex about 10 hours earlier.

51.8 abstaining 3 days.

59.8 abstaining 2 days.

Weird right? Of course, this puts even more pressure on me to get my stuff together.

Luckily he's very accomodating. I think we've had sex 6-7 times in the past 3 days, poor guy. I just told him we're doing it again tonight, and he's like, "I'll try." lol I find it hilarious.

 

[readyformore]

My husband found some article stating that daily frequent ejaculations actually lead to healthier/better sperm.

It doesn't work this way for my husband though. We did an SA once after 7 straight days of sex. . . . .it was 2 million!!!! The doc was shocked and I was quite embarrassed to explain it to her, lol.

 

[JanetPlanet]

Awww, I'm sorry Ready. Happy late anniversary though!

 

[readyformore]

Awww, I'm sorry Ready. Happy late anniversary though!

Oh thanks.

No 'sorry' needed, it's fine really. His count is good, as long as we don't go at it like bunnies (which is what I want to do at ov time, lol).

His count after 3 days of no sex is 30 million-ish, so no worries. And I have a dd that was conceived from every other day, so I know that's not too much for him. I just try to keep it to that pattern.

 

[crystal443]

Beautiful dog ready so if your DH has a number of 30 millionish how many are needed to actually survive the IUI? I know IUI ups your chances because they go straight into the uterus, but what is the difference in the number of live sperm between a natural cycle and an IUI cycle ?

 

[readyformore]

but what is the difference in the number of live sperm between a natural cycle and an IUI cycle ?

I know that this cycle, his numbers were basically the same pre and post wash (pre would be like a natural bd cycle). Pre wash was 33 and post wash was 32.
So, if it was a natural cycle, we'd have the same amount of sperm, but at least these guys aren't going to get lost in the vagina. That's the only difference for me this cycle with IUI (I think, lol).

 

[crystal443]

I do wonder sometimes if we should have went against the RE and tried IUI while we were deciding on IVF, being unexplained I just wonder sometimes

 

[readyformore]

I do wonder sometimes if we should have went against the RE and tried IUI while we were deciding on IVF, being unexplained I just wonder sometimes

My doc suggested IUI straight out of the bat, both times. With my first and now.
We'll see. I plan on only doing 4 cycles of IUI, then I am D. O. N. E. with ttc crap. I plan on torching my thermometer. I should plan a virtual party for that, lol!!

Not sure about IVF. After 4 IUIs, I won't have the coverage for IVF, so I'm pretty sure that's not an option at this point. But, if I have 4 failed IUIs, I could very well change my mind, lol.

It doesn't have a very good success rate though. She told me only 15-20% success. I was actually thrilled with those #. It's the same percentage she gave me 10 years ago, lol. I went into the consultation expecting her to tell me single digits, so I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[sadie]

Hi Ready. I am due for IUI next week...hsg tmrw, then sonogram or ultrasound (dont recall)on monday. My insurance pays for IVF but not until after 6 IUI. Some sort of new law, I was told. But I guess it depends on the insurance??

Good luck! I am cheering us both on!

 

[sarahincanada]

Beautiful dog ready so if your DH has a number of 30 millionish how many are needed to actually survive the IUI? I know IUI ups your chances because they go straight into the uterus, but what is the difference in the number of live sperm between a natural cycle and an IUI cycle ?

Ive read that of all the millions of sperm ejaculated from natural intercourse only about 500,000 reach the uterus/tubes.....not sure how true that is, but it was in one of my baby books. So IUI puts millions up there! I do think it works for a lot of people and worth trying a couple before IVF (unless theres reasons why not to)

however I had 4 follicles and 29 million washed sperm in my uterus and still didnt get pregnant

I just got back from my ultrasound, so just 1 follicle, trigger tonight, IUI on Saturday my blood test is in 2 weeks....on my birthday. I dont think Im lucky enough to get a bfp on my birthday and not too enthused about having 1 follicle so Im going to forget about this cycle as much as possible so I dont ruin my bday.

 

[LLbean]

Beautiful dog ready so if your DH has a number of 30 millionish how many are needed to actually survive the IUI? I know IUI ups your chances because they go straight into the uterus, but what is the difference in the number of live sperm between a natural cycle and an IUI cycle ?

Ive read that of all the millions of sperm ejaculated from natural intercourse only about 500,000 reach the uterus/tubes.....not sure how true that is, but it was in one of my baby books. So IUI puts millions up there! I do think it works for a lot of people and worth trying a couple before IVF (unless theres reasons why not to)

however I had 4 follicles and 29 million washed sperm in my uterus and still didnt get pregnant

I just got back from my ultrasound, so just 1 follicle, trigger tonight, IUI on Saturday my blood test is in 2 weeks....on my birthday. I dont think Im lucky enough to get a bfp on my birthday and not too enthused about having 1 follicle so Im going to forget about this cycle as much as possible so I dont ruin my bday.

Sarah, take it from me....one is all it takes