anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[Indigo77]

LL...Did they tell you what the chromosomal abnormalities were?

 

[sarahincanada]

Yeah sarah true enough I'll be relieved if any fertilize though!! Not sure what the stats are on blasts LL might know, her little bean was a 5 day transfer

13 fertilized, 8 were dividing correctly and made it to Blastos but only 1 of those passed the PGD

hey LL, does that mean the 7 would have died off eventually? or is the PGD testing quite invasive and damages the blastos? just something I was wondering.

also anyone know what happens if none make it....you've already used all those drugs and done the ER, so does that mean you still have to pay most of the cost? Im sure each clinic is different I just wondered if anyone knew. sorry if that seems depressing, I just want to be prepared. Im going on my IVF info night on thursday

your payment does not guarantee results. I doubt any one does. If you find a place that guarantees a baby or your money back let me know LOL

the seven all tested with some chromosomal issue or another...it happens. There are certain chromosomal abnormalities that do lead to MC eventually...or you also run the risk of having a child with issues. Honestly I personally did not want to risk that.

yes I know nowhere guarantees results I just wondered if you are out the whole cost or do the clinics give a bit of a break. Ive not heard many people on here crying they spent $12,000 and none fertilized, thats why I asked!

 

[hockey24]

Sarah, I think every clinic is different but my clinic will credit you back a piece if you do not do the transfer due to non-fertilization. Might be a small piece but its something.

I went in for a Day 8 scan after being on Follistim for 5 days. We were worried I would not respond well due to high FSH but the nurse was very please with the early results and I have a good number of follicles growing. I think I had 4 nice sized follies on one side and 1 on the other. Its still too early to tell how many will mature but it was so nice to have some positive news this morning!!

She said that she was very encourage that I would be a great IVF candidate, if needed as the meds would be at an even higher dosage and should produce even more. Now if I could just get the insurance company to agree!!

 

[sarahincanada]

Sarah, I think every clinic is different but my clinic will credit you back a piece if you do not do the transfer due to non-fertilization. Might be a small piece but its something.

I went in for a Day 8 scan after being on Follistim for 5 days. We were worried I would not respond well due to high FSH but the nurse was very please with the early results and I have a good number of follicles growing. I think I had 4 nice sized follies on one side and 1 on the other. Its still too early to tell how many will mature but it was so nice to have some positive news this morning!!

She said that she was very encourage that I would be a great IVF candidate, if needed as the meds would be at an even higher dosage and should produce even more. Now if I could just get the insurance company to agree!!

yay hockey thats great news! so you are on 300 follistim for IUI....Im going to be on that dosage for IVF! how come so high for IUI, are they not worried about multiples? my first IUI with injectables I was only on 75 and they were going to up it to 150 this month but I skipped the month. thats great she is positive about IVF....but hopefully you wont need that, come on bfp!

 

[LLbean]

with us the $13K was like a deposit...as we did things they took it from that credit...if that makes sense.

About the embryos...each one was different...some had Trisomy13, some trisomy18, I think one was possibly DS etc... We don't have that in our families but it is normal with age that they get a bit loopy if you catch my drift. Hence why the chance of MC increase with age as well...plus I am sure rushing them all to produce at the same time is not ideal either LOL

 

[hockey24]

Sarah, I think every clinic is different but my clinic will credit you back a piece if you do not do the transfer due to non-fertilization. Might be a small piece but its something.

I went in for a Day 8 scan after being on Follistim for 5 days. We were worried I would not respond well due to high FSH but the nurse was very please with the early results and I have a good number of follicles growing. I think I had 4 nice sized follies on one side and 1 on the other. Its still too early to tell how many will mature but it was so nice to have some positive news this morning!!

She said that she was very encourage that I would be a great IVF candidate, if needed as the meds would be at an even higher dosage and should produce even more. Now if I could just get the insurance company to agree!!

yay hockey thats great news! so you are on 300 follistim for IUI....Im going to be on that dosage for IVF! how come so high for IUI, are they not worried about multiples? my first IUI with injectables I was only on 75 and they were going to up it to 150 this month but I skipped the month. thats great she is positive about IVF....but hopefully you wont need that, come on bfp!

I asked my nurse about that and she said the doctor likes to be more aggressive if he feels its necessary rather than gradually easing up the dosage. Given my high FSH, they figured I would need a higher dosage to get things rolling. She told me IVF would require like 450 of follistim! Yikes!! Obviously with IVF you have control of fertilization but we'll see on Friday how many look like they will actually reach maturity as I don't want to be starring in my own multiplicity reality show!

 

[readyformore]

About the embryos...each one was different...some had Trisomy13, some trisomy18, I think one was possibly DS etc... We don't have that in our families but it is normal with age that they get a bit loopy if you catch my drift. Hence why the chance of MC increase with age as well...plus I am sure rushing them all to produce at the same time is not ideal either LOL

Wow!

That really puts it into perspective doesn't it.

We all hear about chromosomal issues, but it was right there in your face. Were you surprised? At the very least, I would be thanking my lucky stars about doing PGD. Good call on your part.

 

[GreenFingers]

Hockey - great news about the follicles...let's hope IUI is the way forward for you and you never need to get to IVF!!

So...just had the call from my embryologist. Out of the 6 that fertilised 1 did not start to divide. All the others are dividing nicely and I have a couple at the 2 cell stage, a couple at the 4 cell stage and 1 at the 6 cell stage.

Then she went into the grades, the 6 cell is the worst grade at Grade 4 and the other are grade 3. Grade 1 is the best at this clinic. She said ther is a big difference between 3 and 4 so that one is of a much poorer quality. She also said there is a much higher chance of success for Grade 1 to 3 than Grade 4 to 6 and they hardly ever give an embryo a Grade 1.

This really really has not helped my nerves, grade 3 does not feel that great to me and I am getting really anxious for Saturday to get here. I can not find anything to help on line as everyone seems to grade them differently, very annoying!! I want some indication os success rates with grade 3...

They will not look at them again until 4pm Friday when they will call with another update and book me in.

Oh god....this is the longest week of my life!!!

 

[readyformore]

Greenfingers, how many are they going to transfer?

 

[hockey24]

Wow Greenfingers! I can understand why you are anxious! And having to wait until Friday afternoon for the next update would drive me crazy!! I think you need to plan some fun activities for the next couple days to help pass the time faster and occupy your thoughts to keep from over obsessing (I know - not possible)!

But so excited for you!! I'd be very curious what other IVF'ers grades were and their results.

 

[sarahincanada]

Hockey - great news about the follicles...let's hope IUI is the way forward for you and you never need to get to IVF!!

So...just had the call from my embryologist. Out of the 6 that fertilised 1 did not start to divide. All the others are dividing nicely and I have a couple at the 2 cell stage, a couple at the 4 cell stage and 1 at the 6 cell stage.

Then she went into the grades, the 6 cell is the worst grade at Grade 4 and the other are grade 3. Grade 1 is the best at this clinic. She said ther is a big difference between 3 and 4 so that one is of a much poorer quality. She also said there is a much higher chance of success for Grade 1 to 3 than Grade 4 to 6 and they hardly ever give an embryo a Grade 1.

This really really has not helped my nerves, grade 3 does not feel that great to me and I am getting really anxious for Saturday to get here. I can not find anything to help on line as everyone seems to grade them differently, very annoying!! I want some indication os success rates with grade 3...

They will not look at them again until 4pm Friday when they will call with another update and book me in.

Oh god....this is the longest week of my life!!!

thanks for all that info, and I agree theres so much online that contradicts itself I wouldnt rely on that...can your clinic tell you the success rates for grade 3? does the grade now stay the same or can they improve? perhaps do a post in the assisted folder asking for success with grade 3 and Im sure theres some people with that same grading. I would also find the wait hard, although once you have the ET at least the time to get a bfp is shorter for many women so I suppose this is like week 1 of the 2WW. Im keeping everything crossed for you

 

[LLbean]

Hockey - great news about the follicles...let's hope IUI is the way forward for you and you never need to get to IVF!!

So...just had the call from my embryologist. Out of the 6 that fertilised 1 did not start to divide. All the others are dividing nicely and I have a couple at the 2 cell stage, a couple at the 4 cell stage and 1 at the 6 cell stage.

Then she went into the grades, the 6 cell is the worst grade at Grade 4 and the other are grade 3. Grade 1 is the best at this clinic. She said ther is a big difference between 3 and 4 so that one is of a much poorer quality. She also said there is a much higher chance of success for Grade 1 to 3 than Grade 4 to 6 and they hardly ever give an embryo a Grade 1.

This really really has not helped my nerves, grade 3 does not feel that great to me and I am getting really anxious for Saturday to get here. I can not find anything to help on line as everyone seems to grade them differently, very annoying!! I want some indication os success rates with grade 3...

They will not look at them again until 4pm Friday when they will call with another update and book me in.

Oh god....this is the longest week of my life!!!

I've been there!!!

Hang tight...it will be Friday before you know it. We did not know how many good ones until we got there for the transfer...it was hard to hear that out of 8 only one passed the tests....but look now...7+ weeks ONE is all you need

 

[crystal443]

Greenfingers- I'm sure it'll all be fine as LL said and it really does only take one so I hope Friday comes quickly for you

Hockey- Good luck with your IUI cycle, I was one 450 Puregon (same as Gonal F) because I'm a poor responder and it wasn't too bad

Sarah- Hopefully your money will be ready to go soon, that's a big relief when you know the money's in your hand

 

[GreenFingers]

Thanks all for your support!! It means a lot, i will ask a lot more questions when they phone on Friday!!

ps we seem to have some cool mobile site which is much easier to use but there is no thanks button so again....THANKS

 

[crystal443]

I haven't seen the mobile site yet Will have to check it out!!

 

[crystal443]

Good luck Greenfingers....hope your embies are doing great!!

 

[GreenFingers]

Thanks Crystal, just one more day and we should get an update at around 4pm to see how they are today, sooooo nervous!

How are you feeling? Not long now!

 

[sarahincanada]

Thanks Crystal, just one more day and we should get an update at around 4pm to see how they are today, sooooo nervous!

How are you feeling? Not long now!

hoping for good news for you

 

[hockey24]

Greenfingers - I'm crossing my fingers for you today!! I think its just cruel to make you wait until 4pm but it will be worth the wait!!

 

[GreenFingers]

Hi all, I've had the call, all 5 are still going for it!!!
2 are showing compaction and 1 is in the early stages, this is the stage before blasto. They expect them to reach blasto tomorrow!

The other 2 are at the 7 cell stage, one of them is the lower grade one.

Another hurdle jumped, very excited now, going in for transfer at 8:30.

I've been having acupuncture so go before and after transfer tomorrow....woo hoo x