Anyone TTC #1 and 30 or older?

[MissDoc]

Angel, fingers crossed those numbers keep going up! Good luck!

 

[star_e]

Ettis it's intereting FF picked that date because usually there has to be three temps that are high. but I guess because many of your temps are higher after that point it picked that day. youre temping before getting out of bed, right? also note that alcohol makes the temps rise a lot. so if you drank some on those days that could explain the fluctuations . if FF is right it sounds like you did good with the BDing this cycle. good luck! keep us posted. fx for a surprise bfp for you!

 

[Etisgonnab]

Ettis it's intereting FF picked that date because usually there has to be three temps that are high. but I guess because many of your temps are higher after that point it picked that day. youre temping before getting out of bed, right? also note that alcohol makes the temps rise a lot. so if you drank some on those days that could explain the fluctuations . if FF is right it sounds like you did good with the BDing this cycle. good luck! keep us posted. fx for a surprise bfp for you!

Yeah I am temping before getting out of bed, except for this morning when I accidentally left the thermometer in the bathroom and had to get up to get it. So I discarded the reading. It's all nutty anyway. I'm surprised FF estimated for me as well given how all over the map my temps are, but I'm guessing it was more related to the peak opk reading and evidence of some fertile cm. Oh and yes a couple of the days with higher temps were after baseball games where I had a couple drinks (we have season tickets) so that could explain it or at least some of it.

I think next time I'm going to try to take temps vaginally to see if they're more stable. Do any of you do that? The question I have is how to deal with that while AF is around. Since there's a chance I ovulate really early (based on my opk, cm, and now the ff estimate) I want to temp straight through my cycle starting on cd1. Do any of you temp vaginally starting on CD1? Do you just wear pads at night or something? I'm not squeamish about the mess factor at this point. Just want to be able to see if I can get a more stable BBT chart that's actually useful

 

[Angel5000]

I just had my blood draw. The nurse says she'll have my HCG and my Progesterone results for me TODAY between 12-3pm. This will be the longest few hours wait of my life.


ETis - I've never temped vaginally so I can't be much help. I would imagine that you would have to just use a pad instead of a tampon, and i do know that some BBTs are not designed for vaginal while others are, so that would be something to double check.

 

[Etisgonnab]

angel: good luck!! Hopefully all the supplements you're taking help. maybe work your anxiety into a math lesson somehow. "Okay kids: If my progesterone rate began at this rate, and needs to be here, at what rate does the progesterone need to increase?"

Both of my thermometers are approved for vaginal use, so I'm fine there. I've been feeling kinda bloated today and have some very minor but consistent cramping happening pretty low in my pelvic area all day so far. Not sure what that's about but not going to read too much into it. AF is due next Monday so may just be some new PMS symptoms for all I know

 

[Angel5000]

My results are in ladies!

HCG: 167
Progesterone: 26.3

She said the HCG was really good and they wanted progesterone over 20, and it is, so this is good news!!!
they want me every 48 hours until it reaches 1600 and then they'll do an ultrasound.

I requested that I do my lab work at my local PCP only because they are open until 5pm and I can't keep missing work. She said they can but only if the lab will do it within 24 hours on site. I called the lab and finally got hold of someone and they said they will definitely do that if they have an order from my Dr. So, YAY!


Etis - That's great! I should totally do that.... if my hcg levels were 38 on Thursday, and they should increase at a rate of 50% every 48 hours on what day will I be able to get my ultrasound at 1600hcg?

 

[Etisgonnab]

My results are in ladies!

HCG: 167
Progesterone: 26.3

She said the HCG was really good and they wanted progesterone over 20, and it is, so this is good news!!!
they want me every 48 hours until it reaches 1600 and then they'll do an ultrasound.

I requested that I do my lab work at my local PCP only because they are open until 5pm and I can't keep missing work. She said they can but only if the lab will do it within 24 hours on site. I called the lab and finally got hold of someone and they said they will definitely do that if they have an order from my Dr. So, YAY!


Etis - That's great! I should totally do that.... if my hcg levels were 38 on Thursday, and they should increase at a rate of 50% every 48 hours on what day will I be able to get my ultrasound at 1600hcg?

Yay great news!!! So far so good! Fx crossed for continued good news and you totally should on the math questions. You could do a whole math/health class hybrid lesson this point lol

 

[star_e]

Ettis I've never temped vaginally. hope you can figure out a method that gets more stable results bc it is a useful tool.

Angel - so exciting! congrats!!! how are you feeling?

afm.... FF says that i have O. but i did not BD on any of the fertile days
i honestly did not think i would O b/c i usually don't. if AF does indeed start, does that mean i did for sure O? is there a chance that this O could be that one of the cysts broke? its just hard to believe i would O since i normally don't. unless the injections had some effect and my ovaries are confused into working properly. i don't know. DH wanted to BD on O day even though he was tired, but i foolishly said no b/c i felt so so tired. and i obviously had not idea that was O day. oh well, you live and learn i guess. i also couldnt control that I'd be sick w nausea on Saturday and so couldn't BD then either.

i also did not get the ewcm until the day of O! i thought it was supposed to come a few days after the ewcm. so when i got it on friday, i thought well it will happen in a few days so i can put off BDing. has this ever happened to any of you? how long do you get ewcm before O? the only thing i can think of doing for future cycles is to start BDing EOD starting around cd10. normally i would let the cm guide me, but this cycle it turned to ewcm on O day. and opks dont work for me b/c they read positive. unless i try another opk. the clear blues def don't work. do you all think a less sensitive one would work?

how soon after O does AF come? on my last cycle it took 16 days.

 

[mrs unicorn]

Angel - wonderful news!! Hope you are managing to relax and enjoy the fact you are pregnant!!!

Star - woop for the crosshairs! I normally get ewcm about 3-4 days before ov and the day of ov. Although sometimes it's hard to tell - lets just say I noticed a big change in cm around then. Definitely stretchy but sometimes it's cloudy at various points during the day. My lp is always 15 days, so after arrives on 16dpo. Since I've been charting it has never changed, even after the mc!

Etis - I don't agree with FF on your ov day - the dotted line means it's not sure. I think either cd14/15 was o day for you, that's when you started to have a proper increase. What do your opks look like for those days? Also, you can just not temp during af. I don't always. So long as you get enough temps before ov you should be fine. I sometimes start around cd7 ish.

AFM - epic temp drop today so af will arrive tomorrow bang on time. Never mind. I have struggled this cycle, but I feel better about the next. We've just adopted a kitten who is absolutely gorgeous, so I have a big distraction now!

 

[Etisgonnab]

Star: hmm that's interesting and potentially good news! I don't get a lot of ewcm at all so I'm probably not much help. Though if FF is correct about my OD then I got some right around the day of and not anytime else. If FF is wrong about my OD and Mrs. Unicorn is right (more on this in a sec) then all I got at my od that I noticed was some creamy cm albeit it slightly stretchy from what I recall. Fx that you did o and AF shows on her own!

Mrs. Unicorn: you may be right if we're looking at the cheapie opk chart I've been making. So for context the digis detected a peak surge on cd7, the same day I recorded some ewcm. I stopped using the digis after that but kept up with the cheapies. I always find them a bit more difficult to read but I did get some positive looking results cd13-15. The most positive looks like cd14 to me. I've tried to attach the photo but it won't let me. I'll email it to myself and try from my computer I didn't get any ewcm then though only the creamy stuff I alr day mentioned. Coincidentally I did also BD on cd14...

Also I'm sorry this wasn't your cycle but fx for next time!

 

[Etisgonnab]

It wouldn't let me edit my response to add a picture so trying here. What do you guys think?

 

[mrs unicorn]

Yep 13 14 and 15 look positive to me! Although I can't tell a difference between those 3 to narrow it down! I've never used the digis so can't help with that. Is it one that has to 'learn' your cycle/surges? Just think that your temps on cd11 and 14 look too low for post o temps. But if you bd on cd14 that's pretty good timing!!

 

[Etisgonnab]

Yep 13 14 and 15 look positive to me! Although I can't tell a difference between those 3 to narrow it down! I've never used the digis so can't help with that. Is it one that has to 'learn' your cycle/surges? Just think that your temps on cd11 and 14 look too low for post o temps. But if you bd on cd14 that's pretty good timing!!

Yeah I guess I did luck on on timing this cycle. Maybe taking the pressure off isn't the worst idea in the world since the three times we've BDed this cycle all fell around possible od. We'll have to see. For the hell of it, I took at hpt this morning and it was BFN. But if I did o on cd14 or cd15, then I'd only be on dpo4 or dop5, so it'd be too early to tell anyway. Looks like I'm going to have to ride this one out till AF is scheduled to arrive Monday or at least close to it. I'll get a FRER two pack and maybe try one tomorrow or day after, then if BFN test again over the weekend in case of the later od. We'll see. I'm having some symptoms that could go either way for PMS, slightly sore left breast, minor cramping. But that's it.

 

[star_e]

ettis - the lines def look darkest on 13-15. and you did BD on cd14, so that is good. i guess only time will tell. how are you feeling? when is af due?

mrs. unicorn, sorry this cycle was a bust. hopefully next cycle is your one. and congrats on getting a kitten! id say that is an excellent distraction.

afm, my temp really dropped today, its still above the coverline. i have no clue if i really did O. well one thing is that i still have creamy/stretchy cm. so dont know what that means. and i was sick friday and really really sick saturday, and am still even feeling bad today. so i think that could have screwed with my temps. i guess only time will tell. do any of you keep getting somewhat stretchy/creamy cm after you O? DH and I BDed last night. so maybe its b/c of that and its not really cm. i have no idea. its all a learning experience.

 

[Angel5000]

Today I met with my principal and vice principal to share with them that I am pregnant. I really feel like I'm jumping the gun telling them at 4w BUT HR strongly advised it because I have to miss so many days and am out of sick leave, and by telling them I'm basically securing my job. They were both incredibly supportive, reassured me that my job wasn't at risk, to do whatever I needed to do to make sure this baby sticks, and not to worry about it. I feel a lot more relieved now.

I also told them that the progesterone makes me feel woozy, and that the doctor described my symptoms as "feeling drunk" so they should be aware if I am acting odd, that's why. My principal laughed and was like "okay so if I get reports that you are stumbling and acting intoxicated I'll just know it's the meds".

blood wrok scheduled for tomorrow and Friday, and regular doctor appointment on Thursday to talk to my PCP about weaning off my zoloft and check homeocystene levels in relation to the MTHFR mutation.


Star - generally I'm feeling okay. Just starting to feel tired, and the progesterone still makes me fuzzy headed. Kind of cramping but nothing severe.

You chart certainly looks like you did O. If you did O then AF should start, depending on your LP. Since hte point of your injection was to create follicles, if you did O it means one of the follicles burst, and released an egg. AF comes at different times for different women, it depends on your LP. In my case my LP is 11 days, so AF is 11 days after O. If your last cycle was 16 days then expect approximately the same, give or take.

Some people don't get EWcm early. For me I usually get EWcm a few days bfore O but there have been 1-2 cycles where I Didn't get it at all or didn't get it until the day of. I've found that making sure you are well hydrated helps. And some women don't produce EWcm at all. In that case preseed is a great help!

Different OPKs may or may not help, because they all detect the LH surge and if you have PCOS you could have an increase in LH all the time. It really depends. If you want to try another brand I would try Wondfo only because they are cheap and you can get them on amazon without spending a lot of money so if they don't work it wasn't a waste. My sister has PCOS and her RE told her that OPKs may or may not be useful for her.

PS: even with that ttemp drop today, you are well above CL. I think you did Ov. This month my temp climbed until 4DPO and then big drops until 6DPO and then did small stair step up/down/up/down until 10DPO. I was sure I wasn't going to get a bfp because my temps were everywhere.


MrsUnicorn - I'm trying to relax but it's hard. I think once I get through my first early US I'll feel much better. We are probably going to get our first one sometime next week to locate the embryo sac (they want to do that once I get to 1600 hcg). I'm just so nervous. :/

Sorry that AF is on her way. Keeping FX that next cycle is the one for you! Do you have pics of the kitten?!?! I love little baby animals!


ETis - based on your OPKS I would say that 13, 14, and 15 look positive. The temps just don't seem to line up with what FF says. I wonder if your body tried to O early, and it didn't happen, so it tried again. the OPK cna only say that your body is trying to O so it's possible it just didn't happen at that first round.

 

[Gagrlinpitt]

So I caved and poas at 8dpo... I'm thinking it's negative, so am I still in this month?

 

[Angel5000]

It's still very early Gagrl! You are still in until AF shows.

 

[KatO79]

Wow congrats Angel, H&H 9 months

Sorry I haven't replied sooner. The move went great but due to a misunderstanding the previous owner's net was cancelled instead of us taking it over So will be using my mobile in the meantime which I hate

 

[mrs unicorn]

Angel - glad that your employer is supportive. It isn't something you want to be worrying about just now. I totally understand you worrying until the scan. I know I'll struggle for a good while. Fx you don't have to wait too long for it.

Etis - have you had a play with FF by putting in +opks cd13-15? It might give you a solid line? (You can always remove then afterwards)

Star - my cm changes each cycle post ov. Sometimes it's creamy, sometimes I'll get a day or 2 of stretchy, then sometimes it's sticky. I can't really get a pattern from it, it also didn't give me any clues when I was pregnant! For that reason I tend to not read too much into it. I did wonder this cycle when it went stretchy but it obviously didn't mean anything for me as af is here today. At least she was bang on time! Also try not to worry about individual temps. That dip is nothing to worry about at all. Temping is great for detecting ov but, in my opinion, not much good for anything else. My chart was looking amazing until yesterday, but I won't let my temps give or take hope.

 

[Angel5000]

Kat - Thanks. Glad the move went well for you but what a pain about not having internet! I really hate using my phone for stuff!