Bellys to Bumps

[Tarkwa]

No i'm not on clomid. I'm just doing my first fertility tests with the doctor before my referral to the FS. x

Fingers crossed you get some clomid, that might have been what helped me get a high level. I see your ticker says your BMI is 36, now I might be wrong about this (I hope I am), but I think your BMI needs to be 35 or under to be prescribed clomid. I've got everything X'd for you sweetie.
xxx

 

[ebony2010]

Hi, wondered if I could join you ladies. Im 32 and ttc for 14 months now and have PCOS. Im on my first cycle of 100mg clomid this month, not holding out much hope for it tbh, but ofc I shall be devistated when AF comes, expecting to be preg.

I have lost 40lbs or so last year, and would like to lose a bit more for myself, but i still have a BMI of around 35 atm. I rly do need to do it with my husbands help tho, and he just says that Im moody enough on the Clomid, I would be psychotic dieting on Clomid. So Im just trying to make good choices and go to the gym regularly.

I fully plan on eating crazy healthy when I am preg and Im sure I will lose a bit doing that, so maybe giving birth weight wont be an issue (if I ever get bloody pregnant, aargh). I would love to have a water birth too, and I think they would want me to lose a bit first.

I love SW btw, thats how I lost my weight last year, I also lost loads rly fast on it a few years ago, then I got gallstones because of the weightloss and put it all back on, seeming to be keeping it off this time tho.

Hi :wave:

Welcome to thread. I'm 32 too. I got gallstones when I lost 60lbs at ww. Ouch! lol x

 

[ebony2010]

As for me I'm having yet another bad food day, we didn't have any lemons in this morning and I was so naughty this morning and had a mcmuffin and the bad choices just seem to have carried on

So what I've done is buy myself a notebook and I'm going to keep a food diary. I can't promise that I'm going to remember to write in it everyday, but I'm going to try my very best to keep it up to date.

The rest of this week and next week is manic for Mum so I can't get to the gym to join up, so I'm going to go the following week and get started so I can go swimming a few times a week too. I know it probably seems like I might be pushing myself too hard, but I'm going to be no good on the machines in the gym for a while so am only going to be able to take it really slow

A food diary is a great idea. I like having everything written down so that I don't forget anything I've eaten then wonder why I havn't lost weight. Good luck with it.

 

[ebony2010]

No i'm not on clomid. I'm just doing my first fertility tests with the doctor before my referral to the FS. x

Fingers crossed you get some clomid, that might have been what helped me get a high level. I see your ticker says your BMI is 36, now I might be wrong about this (I hope I am), but I think your BMI needs to be 35 or under to be prescribed clomid. I've got everything X'd for you sweetie.
xxx

Thanks. Thats one of the reasons i'm trying to lose weight because I'd heard people say about being under 30 BMI for certain treatments and I want to be ready so that when I get to my FS appointment they can't send me away and say come back when you've lost weight. I think it will be a couple of months before my first fs appointment so I'm going to try as hard as I can to get nearer 30. x

 

[EmmyReece]

for everyone who's at gyms, I was wondering how much you pay per month?

The uni gym works out as £37.55 a month, which is pretty much what I paid at LA Fitness when I was a member ... because I'm a non university member I have to pay an extra £10 membership, which is what's taken it up to £37.55. And it still works out cheaper than a membership at the leisure centre.

What does everyone think, will it be worth it?

 

[Tarkwa]

Thanks. I ov'd CD18 but 7dpo was yesterday and the got me today. I'll have to talk it through with my FS when we get referred.

I read something about the lining breaking down too soon. Oh its all so confusing! lol

I'm going to try vitamn b complex for a month and see what that does while I was for my FS appointment. x

I'm sorry the got you - booooo witch! Have you tried just taking multi-vits with folic acid? That should cover everything (looking at my vits - from Tesco, the ones for pregnancy they have B6 and B12 at 500% and 600% of RDA respectively.

Emmy, defo sign up for the gym, but you must go at least every other day. DH and I pay £45/month for the gym at our local hotel (within walking distance) - DH battled hard to get it down that much last summer. It's very small, but has what we want (machines, pool, weights and a spa/treatment area. No jacuzzi though ).
xxx

 

[ebony2010]

Thanks. I ov'd CD18 but 7dpo was yesterday and the got me today. I'll have to talk it through with my FS when we get referred.

I read something about the lining breaking down too soon. Oh its all so confusing! lol

I'm going to try vitamn b complex for a month and see what that does while I was for my FS appointment. x

I'm sorry the got you - booooo witch! Have you tried just taking multi-vits with folic acid? That should cover everything (looking at my vits - from Tesco, the ones for pregnancy they have B6 and B12 at 500% and 600% of RDA respectively.

Emmy, defo sign up for the gym, but you must go at least every other day. DH and I pay £45/month for the gym at our local hotel (within walking distance) - DH battled hard to get it down that much last summer. It's very small, but has what we want (machines, pool, weights and a spa/treatment area. No jacuzzi though ).
xxx

Yeah... I'm on pregnacare conception.

 

[4magpies]

How can weight loss cause gall stones?

x

 

[EmmyReece]

Emmy, defo sign up for the gym, but you must go at least every other day. DH and I pay £45/month for the gym at our local hotel (within walking distance) - DH battled hard to get it down that much last summer. It's very small, but has what we want (machines, pool, weights and a spa/treatment area. No jacuzzi though ).
xxx

thanks hun, once I've got next week over and done with I'll sign up with them

 

[cranberry987]

Im 36 BMI and my NHS clinic wouldnt see me until I was under 35 BMI, I got under 35, ruined my Xmas by not eating or drinking, GP calls clinic, then they say I would have to be under 30 BMI to take Clomid, blood pressure blah blah etc, was heartbroken.

Saw the exact same Dr at private clinic 'Oh your weight is fine, heres some clomid', I then chilled out and went back to eating normally, put on a few but you always do when you first come off, water retention etc.

It did cost me £300 for the appt + ultrasound, but worth it tbh, couldnt face the idea of waiting any longer, any bit of food I ate would have been delaying having kids for me, not a healthy headspace to be in.

 

[cranberry987]

How can weight loss cause gall stones?

x

Not sure exactly, but its something to do with the fat you release from your cells from losing weight calcifies in your gall bladder because if you lose it too fast theres too much to process and go through your system normally.

 

[ebony2010]

How can weight loss cause gall stones?

x

No idea but its probably to do with fat maybe? I just remember when I googled gallstones one of the reasons it can happen was rapid weight loss. x

 

[ebony2010]

Im 36 BMI and my NHS clinic wouldnt see me until I was under 35 BMI, I got under 35, ruined my Xmas by not eating or drinking, GP calls clinic, then they say I would have to be under 30 BMI to take Clomid, blood pressure blah blah etc, was heartbroken.

Saw the exact same Dr at private clinic 'Oh your weight is fine, heres some clomid', I then chilled out and went back to eating normally, put on a few but you always do when you first come off, water retention etc.

It did cost me £300 for the appt + ultrasound, but worth it tbh, couldnt face the idea of waiting any longer, any bit of food I ate would have been delaying having kids for me, not a healthy headspace to be in.

Thats terrible. I'm definately going to try and get my weight down before I go to my first appointment. x

 

[Traskey]

Im 36 BMI and my NHS clinic wouldnt see me until I was under 35 BMI, I got under 35, ruined my Xmas by not eating or drinking, GP calls clinic, then they say I would have to be under 30 BMI to take Clomid, blood pressure blah blah etc, was heartbroken.

Saw the exact same Dr at private clinic 'Oh your weight is fine, heres some clomid', I then chilled out and went back to eating normally, put on a few but you always do when you first come off, water retention etc.

It did cost me £300 for the appt + ultrasound, but worth it tbh, couldnt face the idea of waiting any longer, any bit of food I ate would have been delaying having kids for me, not a healthy headspace to be in.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, the NHS makes me SO mad *bangs head* Does appear that there is one rule for the nhs and one for private, but we knew that already

I need to win the lottery in a hurry. I need this ivf, well actually ICSI which is even more expensive

I have to say though that mine will at least do all the tests for me with a BMI of 37. That's more than some will do. Just not the treatments. Nothing else in this house or car is allowed to break! We've had to get a new washing machine and dishwasher in the last 6 months.

 

[Traskey]

Emmy, we are with Esporta and it's £49, so your price sounds very good to me. We thought long and hard before signing up, as we could have put the money towards the ICSI but tbh if I don't lose the weight I won't get any treatment, private or nhs, so we decided to go for it!

 

[Tarkwa]

I guess it all depends which area you live in and which doctor you see - it's so random sometimes. My BMI is over 30 and they are happy to prescribe clomid. If we went private our local clinic is run by the same guy (the mean FS) - not sure if he will be as mean if we are paying him buckets of money!!! It is heartbreaking, isn't it (so much so that I've slobbed out all afternoon and had a sleep to try and get rid of headache caused by crying so much whe I should have been working from home!) - I completely understand. Sorry your xmas was ruined - it is hard around that time of year (and valentine's and birthdays...) but I managed to do ok (ate the same things, just slightly less than normal, and I don't drink very much so no problem there!). Sending you lots of cranberry!
xxx

 

[Lisa84]

When i was first reffered my BMI was over 35 and was told i couldnt have Clomid until it was under 35. Luckily it was just over 35 so didnt take too long.

I have heard that in some areas they require it to be under 30 and its all down to the PCT. It annoys me soo much that its such a postcode lottery its not fair. Like the IVF debate. In England we get one go on the NHS but in Scotland they get 3!! How the hell does that work?!!

Im hoping to get my BMI below 30 incase this doesnt work and we need IVF. I have 8lbs to go My overall goal is to get it to 25 so my weight actually be considered 'healthy'. Thats about 3 stone away tho

Emmy I pay 30 per month and its for the local leisure centres. U have the choice of 5 centres and use all the facilities there like the pool, gym, exercise classes and the sauna/steam room bits. It is a real bargain really! xxx

 

[StrawberryTTC]

cranberry welcome! Sorry you've had such an awful time with the weight and clomid and all. That really sucks. I can understand the hospitals having BMI limits for stuff like IVF, since the statistics say that if your bmi is too high, the success rates are significantly lower. And as IVF is a very expensive and physically demanding process, you'd want the best chance possible. But that doesn't go for Clomid!

ebony sorry af got you.

Lisa 8 lbs is nothing! You've done an amazing job, congrats.

I just got my new exercise dvds and did Davina McCall's 'Body buff' and it wasn't as hard as I was expecting. Interesting to see how I do on the others. More on that in my journal, won't bore you all here!

Cd 10 here so starting to feel like I should be peeing on opks! Not doing that yet, as I don't have ewcm yet - well tiny tiny amounts of it mixed in with creamy, but I should get proper ewcm for a few days before ovulation at least.

I think we might go the private route if we needed IVF or something, but we don't have a private clinic where we live! Closest one is 2.5 hours away so that's just not doable unless absolutely necessary at some point. I could get time off work, but DH would have a hard time doing that.

Here even when you get IVF with the public health care system, you still have to pay for the meds yourself, and small amounts per each appointment/ultrasound so the total per IVF would still cost several hundres of euros, about 1000 for the first one I think. We'll have to see how we manage it if it comes to that. I know my parents would be happy to help financially, but I haven't told them we're ttc, and I'm not sure we'd want to tell them even then. Will have to see how this all goes, I guess. =) I'm just such a worrywart that I like to think about it all beforehand, so I don't get unpleasant surprises!

 

[EmmyReece]

that means you're getting fitter then Strawberry

it's better to prepare for unpleasant surprises because then anything good would be amazing (don't know if that makes sense or not lol)

I'm feeling sorry for myself tonight, when I was doing food I managed to slice my fingers open just underneath my fingernail ouchies And I was getting changed into pjs and I've discovered a lovely bruise on my right boob, and I have no idea how it happened

 

[Tarkwa]

Well, I've been to the gym with DH. Only managed 30 mins on the machines as I feel so drained today. I had New Covent Garden chicken soup for dinner. A bit boring & bland so I jazzed it up with pepper and about 7 meditarranean croutons (they are fairly big croutons). Had a couple of slices of fresh bread with it too to actually fill me up. Leftovers for lunch tomorrow - perfect! Having strawberries for pudding. Going back for a swim tomorrow and feeling quite positive about it all right now (but this rollercoaster of emotions is gonna have a dip ).
Lisa, 8lbs is soooooo do'able! Keep up the good work. I can't even begin to imagine what I would look like with a BMI of 25 - a skinny minnie me thinks! I tell myself I'm too tall (5'7 and 3/4" or 172cm) to have a BMI like that . Somehow I think the medical professionals would disagree !
Am at work all day tomorrow which will take my mind off things - yippee!
xxx