blood on hpt = positive? Hmmm

[diane0508]

"for use with urine and serum" is a combo test, and it did mention the test was for use with urine and serum. I can't break it down any further, what are you not grasping here? Its great that you want to quote the nih, fantastic, but you aren't testing with the same tests as they are so you can't use their study to back up what you are doing.

Geezus, I didnt say it didn't work, I said it isn't accurate. As did others, in which you snapped back at them. You need to learn how to read and comprehend...just sayin'!!

You don't have to be insulting....

They said commercially available tests are validated for both serum and urine but not whole blood..commercially available means to the public...meaning hpt's....so the point of the test I believe was to test the validity of that..adding whole blood to the mix to see if it worked...which it did.

"Point-of-care testing for rapid detection of pregnancy in women of reproductive age is common practice in the emergency department. Commercially available rapid human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) immunoassays are validated for use with urine and serum, but not whole blood.
STUDY OBJECTIVES:
We assessed the validity of using whole blood to detect pregnancy using a point-of-care hCG assay by comparing it to a laboratory quantitative serum hCG assay as the criterion standard."

 

[MoBaby]

cora I originally read the article as saying use for serum and urine.. However, the purpose of the STUDY was to compare whole blood vs serum... The study was trying to find out IF whole blood could be used which is why they said commercially available tests are approved for urine and serum. The researchers already knew that but they wanted to see in cases where rapid detection was needed (because serum takes some time to process) if whole blood (finger stick, blood draw) could be used for the HPT. The found that whole blood was equal as urine or serum.

I personally do not feel results with whole blood are valid and I wouldnt do it myself you cant argue with the results of the study

 

[diane0508]

cora I originally read the article as saying use for serum and urine.. However, the purpose of the STUDY was to compare whole blood vs serum... The study was trying to find out IF whole blood could be used which is why they said commercially available tests are approved for urine and serum. The researchers already knew that but they wanted to see in cases where rapid detection was needed (because serum takes some time to process) if whole blood (finger stick, blood draw) could be used for the HPT. The found that whole blood was equal as urine or serum.

I personally do not feel results with whole blood are valid and I wouldnt do it myself you cant argue with the results of the study

Thank you!! I felt like I was going crazy...but you understand what I'm saying...lol

That's what the study said and that's all...it is possible.

And I totally understand you wouldn't try it, I'm still skeptical but they say it works so only time will tell...but thanks for posting I was kinda feeling attacked here.

 

[_Cora_]

Im not arguing with the study, Im stating that the study used a test thats validated for urine and serum and she is using a urine only test and trying to use the study to back up her results. The results from her test are not comparable to the study because she is not using a urine and serum approved test. I believe if you read back in my comments you will see I said that a couple times. If she were to use a combo test, which is urine and serum, OSOM makes them, then she could compare her results to the study's findings because it would be whole blood on a urine/serum test, just like the study she's posting as her backup resource.

 

[wannanewbaby]

If she wants to use the study to back up her results what does it matter to you if you dont agree thats fine but no need to argue with her this site is for support either she will get her bfp with urime eventually or it might have been a false bfp this thread was started as a fun experiment not a scientific battlefield

 

[justhoping]

i honestly just see cora letting people know it may not work...as I had stated as well. But this thread is just for fun as well...

so...lets go back to fun?

 

[wannanewbaby]

I think it should to i umderstand where both were coming from but it has been clearly stated if you read through the thread that it can be inaccurate gl girls hope all get bfp soon

 

[diane0508]

I'm ready to get back to fun also...I didn't start the argument

 

[justhoping]

I think it should to i umderstand where both were coming from but it has been clearly stated if you read through the thread that it can be inaccurate gl girls hope all get bfp soon

^^ agree

I dont think it work but when I do get a positive would love to try it out

 

[diane0508]

Got my wife to try it and hers is negative as it should be.....yay!!

https://i43.tinypic.com/2w7k9rp.jpg

 

[justhoping]

your not supposed to double post like this its in the rules...

what i like to do in that kind of situation is just link back to the orginal post i want them to see...

its ok, im still learning the rules here

mod can delete this if they wish i know i should have just pmmed her...sorry

 

[_Cora_]

If she wants to use the study to back up her results what does it matter to you if you dont agree thats fine but no need to argue with her this site is for support either she will get her bfp with urime eventually or it might have been a false bfp this thread was started as a fun experiment not a scientific battlefield

You do realize the exact same thing can be said to you, right? If I want to post my opinion on what she is saying, what does it matter to you? If you don't agree, that's fine, but I can post my opinion...just like both of you have done. So there's no need to argue with me!

 

[diane0508]

your not supposed to double post like this its in the rules...

what i like to do in that kind of situation is just link back to the orginal post i want them to see...

its ok, im still learning the rules here

mod can delete this if they wish i know i should have just pmmed her...sorry

Sorry about that I didn't know...but now I do, thanks

 

[diane0508]

Line still showing today

https://i44.tinypic.com/9uszrp.jpg

 

[HannahTTC]

Here is the videos:

Part 1 the mixing process
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kMUG_8P2h3c

Part 2, her mixture was a little messed up in part 1. So tjis is a little better.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-eddv9tREA

part 3 loads of tests. She also shows what happens if you put too much blood on test can cause false negitive results.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jTujv9xE2Y4

 

[HannahTTC]

Line still showing today

https://i44.tinypic.com/9uszrp.jpg

Is that today's? Didn't see much on the other test but today I do!

 

[diane0508]

Line still showing today

https://i44.tinypic.com/9uszrp.jpg

Is that today's? Didn't see much on the other test but today I do!

Yes this is today's the one right before this was my wifes and it was negative like you should've been

 

[Jaycrew]

Well look- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! I think supprt is very well needed- I have read the articles etc, and I think we ALL can agree that it is not definitive - its just a study which means with ANYTHING including urine tests they are not 100% accurate- why the back and forth?? no reason for it- Clearly in this case she is not using it as the mecca of all answers and the Holy Grail - it's for fun and she DID back it up with a FRER soooooooo with that being said -ENJOY YOUR PREGNANCY DOLL!!!!!!!! HAPPY AND HEALTHY 40 wks to you!!! And please dont stress with the non sense- you have to look out for baby YEAAAAAHHHH!!!!!! AND GOOD LUCK to those who are TTC xxx!!!!!

 

[diane0508]

Well look- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! I think supprt is very well needed- I have read the articles etc, and I think we ALL can agree that it is not definitive - its just a study which means with ANYTHING including urine tests they are not 100% accurate- why the back and forth?? no reason for it- Clearly in this case she is not using it as the mecca of all answers and the Holy Grail - it's for fun and she DID back it up with a FRER soooooooo with that being said -ENJOY YOUR PREGNANCY DOLL!!!!!!!! HAPPY AND HEALTHY 40 wks to you!!! And please dont stress with the non sense- you have to look out for baby YEAAAAAHHHH!!!!!! AND GOOD LUCK to those who are TTC xxx!!!!!

OMG...Thank you!! This made me laugh sooooo much!! Your awesome!!
Thank you!!!!!!!

 

[Jaycrew]

your not supposed to double post like this its in the rules...

what i like to do in that kind of situation is just link back to the orginal post i want them to see...

its ok, im still learning the rules here

mod can delete this if they wish i know i should have just pmmed her...sorry

And who really cares who's right or wrong Geez - stop being such a freagin kill Joy- Everyone on this forum knows to back it up with a urine or a Blood test administered by a physician - its common sense. In this case its just for fun.. and curiosity. Who cares about anything else... everyone who wants to be right isn't always right. JUST STOP!!! What difference does it freagin make????? You always say in your posts "im a nurse, im a nurse"- big whoppty freagin doo -but you are so negative and such a kill joy I would never want you as my OB nurse or ER nurse! Let these women just have their peace stop always being the person that raises there hand and kills the moment with "well actually.." .. this whole website was designed to be SUPPORTIVE, she said she knows its not definitive, let it be- Comments like yours need to be on Yahoo answers. Geez --- OVER IT!!!! I'm SURE I'm not the only person that feels this way. God forgive me - but I hate negative crap!