Bumpkins & Babies Chat Thread

Hello again girls - you can guess that Monty is napping as I have this spare time to write some posts on here! I sometimes wonder whether I expect far too much of my LO and that's why I get a bit upset sometimes. Maybe if I had lower expectations of him, I wouldn't end up being frustrated and upset. So I was just wondering - if say you put your LO in their bouncy chair in the kitchen as you cook or wash up or do the laundry, how long will your LO happily sit there playing with his toys and watching you? Would you expect it to be one minute or ten minutes? And after that time, will he whine or yell or what?

Same question for any other situation. If you are getting dressed for instance, how long would you expect LO to lie on the bed watching you?

And after LO has stopped being interested in toys, watching you, etc., what do you do next? Do you simply move him to a different environment, say from the bedroom floor to the kitchen bouncy chair? Or do you carry him in your arms for an hour? I just don't know whether all this carrying that I seem to do is good for him. Well, it IS good for him in that he likes it, but what about long term I wonder? I am just surprised that our LO seems so uninterested in his chair, mobile, nest, etc. He just really wants to be carried all the time, and generally if he ain't being carried he isn't too happy. But like I say, does this generally apply to ALL babies, or is mine different, or what? Gosh, this is when a bottle of wine would be soooo appreciated (well, not at midday! but you know what I mean). But BF means no to wine, apart from the odd small glass after his bedtime feed.
 
Colsy~ I'm sure you will be fine looking after Monty on your own. Just enjoy a few relaxing days in?! :flower:

LOL, if we have any more days in, I think we'll die of tedium. Seriously, Monty and I have not left the village since New Year's Eve, and even that was only to go to the deli two villages away. Maffie, who's moved to a town not that far from me, will know what I mean about being snowed in and unable to get up or down the hills!

I can imagine your getting serious cabin feaver! OH knows how bad Derbyshire is as he delivers all around there everyday, well there and Nottinghamshire. Wish I could suggest some fun things for you to do! Hope you can get out soon, its horrible and icy at the mo so I hope it melts away quickly and you and Monty can get out and about again :flower:

We've been struggling with all kinds of things for the past week or so. Maybe my cabin fever is rubbing off on Monty, and making him grumpier than he should be. But I was just wondering how much sleep a baby of this age (12 and a half weeks) should be getting in 24 hours. He seems to need more sleep than he's getting but he just won't acknowledge that fact and he would rather be awake and miserable than sleeping in order to get back his cheeriness. He's sleeping about 11 hours at night (with a break in those 11 hours for milk and nappy), but during the day we're lucky if we get a total of two hours naps out of him, which means he often sleeps just 13 hours in one day. Surely for a baby of this age, this is too little? It would definitely explain why he's being so grumpy all the time wouldn't it. I'm trying a new technique today of every time he wakes from his nap going back in and singing quietly to him but refusing to take him out or get him up. So far this has made him go back to sleep two or three times, so he's now been in bed for an hour and three-quarters, with some of that time crying but a lot of it asleep. This is an improvement. Has anybody else tried this and eventually found that it make baby realise that sleep is good during the day?

Chloe is sat fighting sleep as we speak! I am lucky as the swing chair usually entertains her until she drops asleep. If I try she fusses for longer but eventually a dummy helps after a few refusals. I usually end up propping her on a blanket on top of some strategically placed cusions on the couch too because she wakes right up if I pop her in her downstairs moses basket, she only really likes that nearer bed time.

Kte, so glad that Chloe is home safe and sound. It must have been so scary for you. Can they "fix" the fissure, or is it just something Chloe has to live with or will it get better on its own? Whatever, I hope that everything works out fine.

The hopsital doctor said it's something that should just clear up on its own. I'm just making sure she is nice and clean and then dry down there so it doesn't get aggrivated and heals quicker. She doen't seem bothered by it at all, no crying when she goes or anything so hopefully it will heal up soon! I'm not sure if it will come back, my own GP said with mine it sometimes will but I'm not exactly sure if Chloe's will or not, I hope not, it's not pleasent and I don't want her suffering with it when she gets a bit older!

Kte, I keep meaning to ask, is that a special tummy time cushion that Chloe is lying on in your photo? It looks useful. Could you tell me what it is and where you got it? Monty really isn't keen on being on his front so anything to encourage him would be good. LOL, he isn't really keen on anything full stop at the moment! Sleep? Nah. Toys? Only for about one minute. Food? Only if he can fall asleep after five minutes. Nappy change? Only if you can do it in three minutes. Bath - ah, now that's one thing that he seems OK with, but I can't keep him in the bath 24 hours a day!

Yeah, he would look a like little prune if he was in the bath all the time! It took her a while to come around to tummy time, just keep at it with Monty :D She doesn't last too long still but at first she would get grumpy really quickly whereas now she can last much longer and there aren't any tears, she just likes to look as high up as she can now too. The cusion is a Mamas and Papas play mat thing, we were lucky as it was given to us before she was born. I also use a inflatable ring that she loves, that was a gift too but I think it was from ELC as there are some animals that are velcroed (sp) to it with ELC tags on. I'll pop some pictures on so you can get a better look :thumbup: My Mum says Chloe has her own fairground with the amount of toys she has already!

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Hello again girls - you can guess that Monty is napping as I have this spare time to write some posts on here! I sometimes wonder whether I expect far too much of my LO and that's why I get a bit upset sometimes. Maybe if I had lower expectations of him, I wouldn't end up being frustrated and upset. So I was just wondering - if say you put your LO in their bouncy chair in the kitchen as you cook or wash up or do the laundry, how long will your LO happily sit there playing with his toys and watching you? Would you expect it to be one minute or ten minutes? And after that time, will he whine or yell or what?

Same question for any other situation. If you are getting dressed for instance, how long would you expect LO to lie on the bed watching you?

And after LO has stopped being interested in toys, watching you, etc., what do you do next? Do you simply move him to a different environment, say from the bedroom floor to the kitchen bouncy chair? Or do you carry him in your arms for an hour? I just don't know whether all this carrying that I seem to do is good for him. Well, it IS good for him in that he likes it, but what about long term I wonder? I am just surprised that our LO seems so uninterested in his chair, mobile, nest, etc. He just really wants to be carried all the time, and generally if he ain't being carried he isn't too happy. But like I say, does this generally apply to ALL babies, or is mine different, or what? Gosh, this is when a bottle of wine would be soooo appreciated (well, not at midday! but you know what I mean). But BF means no to wine, apart from the odd small glass after his bedtime feed.

I carry Chloe in her bouncer chair, take her to a different room, or even just move the chair at a different angle. I pretend its a car or something! She doesn't really entertain it much in the daytime, like if we try and eat tea and bounce it with a foot she doesn't last long at all. In the morning I can get an hour max out of her but that is chatting, singing and dancing at her. She loves to copy dancing, her little arms and legs go all over. Toy wise she still isn't interested in toys, she is more interested in things in the room and what people are doing.
 
James had a pretty good night last night. He was a bit unsettled when I put him to bed but I think that was more the atmosphere in the house. He settled at 10pm and slept through til 6.40am. I have made thedecision to leave OH so I'm in the process of finding somewhere to go and sorting out money etc.
 
James had a pretty good night last night. He was a bit unsettled when I put him to bed but I think that was more the atmosphere in the house. He settled at 10pm and slept through til 6.40am. I have made thedecision to leave OH so I'm in the process of finding somewhere to go and sorting out money etc.

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James had a pretty good night last night. He was a bit unsettled when I put him to bed but I think that was more the atmosphere in the house. He settled at 10pm and slept through til 6.40am. I have made the decision to leave OH so I'm in the process of finding somewhere to go and sorting out money etc.

:hugs::hugs:I'm glad you chose this. So many girls forgive and forget. I'm sorry you have to go through the hassle of finding somewhere to live tho. If he had any decency in his body, he'd move out and let you and James have the current place.
 
I'm laughing about this now, cos otherwise I'd be bawling my eyes out. That bloody Baby Whisperer book talks complete bollox - lucky you, I say, to everyone who manages to get baby to eat, play, then sleep. You know what? We get Monty to eat, then if we're lucky he'll play with us a little. Then sleep? Oh no, what he wants again then is more eating. So basically I think I know why he's so grumpy ... he never gets time to sleep, because once he's eaten, been changed and had a few minutes of playing, it's time for him to eat again. And so the cycle begins again. I have had some serious thoughts about changing to formula (those who know me will appreciate that this will be organic of course :) ) in an attempt to fill him up. I really don't want to go down this route, as I had - still have? - beautiful notions of BF my baby until he is a year. But if BF is in a way stopping him from sleeping, then maybe it's not for the best. The stupid thing is how come he can go 8 to 12 hours at night without needing a feed sometimes?
 
Colsy ~ :hugs: Is it the EASY method you mean? Does Monty attempt to fall asleep once you have fed him? Maybe just try to let him sleep after a feed, then wake up and play before switching to FF? Only since your keen on BF him. Or do you think he is not being satisfied food wise? Surely he must be if he sleeps so long during the night? I leave Chloe to sleep after a feed, even if she has a dirty nappy, not at night mind you, but napping during the day, if she has just dropped off and gone at the same time I leave it as her naps don't last that long. Unless its a leaking nappy of course! As sometimes I have gone to change it and it's just been a fart! If you ever do decide on FF Hipp Organics is good FF food. I had to switch as they don't do a hungry baby version as of yet but used to use it for Chloe.

LK ~ I agree with Chaos, could your OH move out instead? Sorry to hear that things have turned out like that for you but you and James deserve better than to be in that kind of situation / atmousphere :flower:
 
Problem is even if he did move out it would be too easy for him to keep coming over and bugging us. At least if I move back to Bristol things will be on my terms and its that much easier to protect James.
 
James had a pretty good night last night. He was a bit unsettled when I put him to bed but I think that was more the atmosphere in the house. He settled at 10pm and slept through til 6.40am. I have made the decision to leave OH so I'm in the process of finding somewhere to go and sorting out money etc.

:hugs::hugs:I'm glad you chose this. So many girls forgive and forget. I'm sorry you have to go through the hassle of finding somewhere to live tho. If he had any decency in his body, he'd move out and let you and James have the current place.

Im glad you made this choice too, and im sure it wasnt easy to come to it. As chaos says many girls do forgive and forget too easily and i have done it so many times (with the same person) till one day enough was enough. Ihope you find somewhere soon or get to stay where you are :hugs:
 
Colsy :hugs: sam wont sit quietly in his chair if he can see me - if i need to go do stuff i leave him in his chair with his toy bar on it or leave him in his play nest (a big rubber ring thing with toys all hanging off it) or if i need more than 10-15 minutes then naughty mummy that i am i put cbeebies on the tv for him, yes sometimes he whines for a while but i have to ignore it if i want to get stuff done; if he had his way he'd sit, sleep, play and eat sat on my lap all day but that cant be done.
If sam falls asleep after a few oz i let him sleep and generally he then wakes up very happy and giggly. Like kte does with chloe if sam falls asleep during the day after feeding i dont change him as it completely wakes him up and he's then a grumpy little sod, he does like his sleep like his mummy!

If you feel he's not being satisfied with food maybe try a bottle midday he may have a good nap in the afternoon then? Only organic formula ive also seen is Hipp. I know from reading your posts that it would be a big decision for you to swap to FF so if you did try 1 bottle you could mainly BF.

I havent read any baby books and i generally just follow sam's lead when he wants feeding; im probably in for hard times when i go back to work!!!!

Sams in sleeping mode today i think, he slept from 9.30 - 8.30 then fell asleep after 5oz, then slept till 11! And he's had 2 naps today, i did see someone comment the other day on here that the more baby sleeps the more baby sleeps which i thought was well strange but im wondering if its true!
 
Hi all,

The sales weren't great but we got a few things. Pyjama's mainly and they're huuuuge! lol I also got him a foam support for the bath and a new changing mat as he'd very much outgrown his baby bath and changing mat :wacko: I also noticed that his 3-6 month clothes say 'Up to 17lb' - he's got to be near 16lb!! We didn't manage to get to baby clinic...I'm going to be in trouble when I finally get there!! :blush:..... but I'll weigh him tomorrow on the fishing scales and see what we get! We got some 6-9 baby grows too and they don't look a million miles off! Next time I'm ordering a smaller model! :dohh:

Colsy - I have bought Earl a 'Prop and Play' mat in an attempt to get him to be a bit more enthusiastic about tummy time. They're on ASDA direct at the moment at £12 with £5 delivery but they do REALLY cheap baby clothes so I just heaped a few vests and things on to make it more worthwhile. I got 6 vests for £3!! I don't know how it will work but I'm willing to try anything at the moment lol - and for £12, the toys that come with it (a gel teether and a rattle) are probably worth that alone. It will also work as an 'assist' when they are sitting up on their own too. (This will come in handy as Earl is only about 8 weeks off outgrowing his chair so I need him to learn this skill ASAP lol! :dohh:)

Kte - I'm glad to hear that Chloe is ok. I hope you don't mind me letting everyone know but I know all the girls on here would be concerned not to hear from you. :hugs: to all 3 of you. I know how heartbreaking it is to have to go through a load of tests with your LO....at least in both our cases it was something relatively benign. Fish and chips!! Yummers! xx

Chaos -I have found the same thing with Earl both on the lack of smiles (why is it that if your hair is a mess they will laugh and smile all day, but if you have a camera in front of them....nada! :dohh:) and also on the whole swaddling thing. I tend to use it more as a calming method now. If he's still particularly awake after his bath and bottle then I will swaddle, if not then I don't. He fell asleep tonight with little or no help so he's just wrapped really loosely.

LK - Well done hun! Sounds like you've made your decision! :thumbup: I hope the move goes smoothly.

Right....I'm off for my tea seeing as Earl is asleep (took about 3 seconds and we haven't re-woken(is that a word?). Hopefully I'll get past 8pm tonight! lol :dohh: Have a nice everning girls xx
 
Hi all, hope were all well, well today me and George went to our first baby class, bumps to babes, and it was fab, lots of babies and other mums to talk too, also i got a indian head massage, it was great, we really enjoyed it, and on friday were going to swimming in a warm pool, cant wait!!!! hope everyone is well
PS is anyone thinking of using baby rice soon??
 
I don't / didn't mind at all Aimee :hugs:
 
Sam - we are probably going to introduce some baby rice in a few weeks. There is no such thing as Lactose Free hungry baby milk and James already glares at me whenever I am eating lol.
 
Sam - Earl is VERY interested in our food and I will consider giving him some baby rice once he reaches 20 weeks (he's 12 weeks on Monday - where has the time gone? :wacko:) but we're hoping to do BLW so I will need to hold out until he can definitely sit unaided.
 
Sam we're gonna try giving sam baby rice from 16/17 weeks (he's 15 on sunday), he was glaring at me eating my toast yesterday and dribbling everywhere lol i know thats not cos i was eating but it did remind me of the dog when he's scabbing food lol I gave chloe baby rice from 4 months and she took to it well; might stock up on some (depending on the sell by dates) from sainsburys seeing as they have 1/3 off baby stuff till 20th jan.
 
Sam ~ I haven't thought about baby rice, I was thinking when Chloe is about 6 months but it depends how hungry she is before then. She glimps at my food too! I think she is just facinated in what I am doing more than what I am eating! She has only just gone 10 weeks tho so is always a tad behind most bumpkins. Like I say, I'll wait and see in a few more weeks time at how she is getting on :D
 
Sam ~ I haven't thought about baby rice, I was thinking when Chloe is about 6 months but it depends how hungry she is before then. She glimps at my food too! I think she is just facinated in what I am doing more than what I am eating! She has only just gone 10 weeks tho so is always a tad behind most bumpkins. Like I say, I'll wait and see in a few more weeks time at how she is getting on :D

I've started adding 2 teaspoons to Autumns bottles to thicken it up some as shes on 4, 8oz bottles a day and shes still hungry!! (7am, 11am, 3pm & 7pm) When she first started on 8oz, she was on 3 a day and would go 6 hours between, then she dropped to 4 or 5 hrs between, so I added another bottle a day .. now shes starting to get hungry in between these ones!

I'm trying to hold off on puréed food as I want to try BLW at 6 months. Well see if this rice in her bottles helps a bit.
 
Morning girls. Well we are safely at my parents house. OH was on the phone about a million times last night crying saying he was going to kill himself cos he hated himself for what he had done and couldn't live without me. Got him to phone his mum and went to bed. Then he woke me, my mum and James up at 12.45 calling cos he had just realised I had taken all of the clothes and that I wasn't ever planning on coming back. Duh I thought I had made that pretty clear. Managed to get back to sleep then and he has finally listened to me and not phoned again. He is going to phone this afternoon aparantly.

Luckily James is none the worse for the late night moving. We got back here at around 11.20pm and I put him into the moses basket and he just went straight back to sleep. Had to get up at 2.30am and 4am to put back his dummy and he woke properly for a feed at 6.20am. Then slept til 9.15am. Hes laying on the floor now having a play before his breakfast lol. Oh and more good news on the milk front....we have normal colour poo! No more dark green nasty stuff, just yellowy green normal looking baby poo. Who thought I would be so happy about poo lol.
 

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