Calling all RMA Ladies (1st page updates)

[jerseygirl412]

Aren't insurances so confusing?!?! I'm happy that RE's office does take care of the bulk of it...could you imagine if we had to do it all with all the stress of the cycles?

How are you feeling Daisy? Said a few prayers for you!!

 

[DaisyQ]

I am hanging in there Jersey - and I appreciate the prayers. I talked to my doctor and my nurse and the plan is for me to go in tomorrow so my doctor can scan me herself. My labs came back OK - my estrogen is 499 (which might be low, but at least it is going up), and my progesterone is low, which is good. 0.4. So I guess I'll be playing it by ear, taking it day by day. I just need my small follicles to GROW.

 

[DaisyQ]

Update - I just got home from another scan and more blood work. My doctor is on the fence about what to do with me - cancel or push forward. I have two big ones - 17mm, I think one at 14, a few at 12, maybe one or two at 11, and 4 or more are under ten. I don't know the total count. Overall she is just not happy at the way they are scattered all over the place in terms of growth.

She said that if I was 40, she'd conclude this is the best we can hope for and move forward. But since I'm 34, and this is our first try, she said she think we can do better. She said that if this happens AGAIN next time, that we will just assume this is how my body reacts, and will push forward anyway. She also said she's not expecting to get 15 eggs out of me - (this is disappointing) - based on my AMH and AFC, but that she's hoping we can do better than this. She is also aware that we have a limited fertility benefit which will only (partially) cover one try, and then we are 100% out of pocket - so she doesn't want to possibly waste our fertility benefit on this cycle which is looking suboptimal.

We discussed converting to IUI, and also starting me on Estrace during my luteal phase so that if it is a BFN, we can move right into a new stim cycle. I am hoping the dates work out with the cruise we are supposed to take the week of July first. My husband also has some business travel planned in mid-late June that he says he cannot move (we'll see about that). I know we could always have his sperm frozen, but this is suboptimal, no? Fresh is better? So it's all up in the air. I will know more after talking to my nurse later today.

Nervous about canceling, and having the same (or worse) response next time... And worried the timing won't work out.

My doctor is also not thrilled about me traveling so soon after possible ET. Ugh.

 

[ashknowsbest]

Daisy - sorry you don't have any solid answers right now. It seems that you have a very good doctor though and she's looking out for you! I'm sure everything will work out just keep the faith and FX'd!

AFM - I tested with a FRER this morning just in case and it was negative so I'm hoping AF will show tomorrow so that I can get this injectables IUI cycle going. We can't do IVF this cycle because we're not going to be able to get the insurance to approve it in time and do all of the preliminary bw, etc. So, I'm a little bummed out but we've got everything else moving along with the IUI injectables so I'm happy we're at least doing something and not just sitting around. We're going to be doing all of the testing that's needed before IVF this month so that if it's a fail with the injectables we can move onto IVF and not waste any time.

 

[Helena_]

sorry you're having such a hard time As far as frozen sperm goes, everything I've read says that frozen is just fine. I'm inclined to believe that fresh would be better, but probably not by much. I would talk to your doctor about it, but I would imagine it would be fine.

 

[jchic]

Hi ladies! TGIF

Ugh Daisy - in the grand scheme of things, I think if you can get a better outing with more eggs, its worth it to wait and see if you have a better response next time. IF you dont (which I doubt!) then use what you can for an ER. I know the waiting sucks, but she knows what she is doing and I am confident that Morris wouldnt steer you in the wrong direction. Keep me posted. xx
AFM - Went to see Dr. Boher for my surgery pre op. he was amazingly thorough and made me feel confident. Based on my u/s he definitely thinks I have stage 3 or 4 endo and that he will scrape and remove everything he can to ensure that I am as close to brand new as possible. He did mention that if he needs to remove any of the tubes, pending the level of endo, he will IF there is damage that he cannot repair. He isnt sure what he will find in there, but wanted to prepare me just in case. He did say that the tubes are pointless for IVF anyway, so thats good news, LOL.
Surgery is scheduled for Monday, I am nervous but excited to get the show on the road. Then in luteal phase of July I start estrogen and the party gets started in August! WOOP!

 

[jerseygirl412]

Daisy...keep praying!! I hope that these eggs grow and grow for you. I will keep praying for you girl!!
Ash, maybe the round of injectibles will be all you need!!
Jchic...good luck Monday!! Just think after the surgery you are on your way to start the process!!
AFM....nothing but bcp now...have to go for my saline sonogram Thursday!!

 

[jchic]

Thanks Jersey! Not too long now for you

So, when I was at RMA yesterday this woman came in holding a newborn and one of the doctors came out and she said to her - "this is her. This is my absolute miracle thanks to you. She is a beautiful miracle". I started to hysterical cry! Things like that gives me HOPE.

 

[jerseygirl412]

It's so nice to have hope like that....I know one day we are all going to be holding our little miracles

 

[DaisyQ]

Ugh - Jchic - you are making me cry (again!).

It will happen for us - it has to.

Glad you liked Dr. Bohrer - I had him for monitoring last weekend and he was so nice and gentle.

Soon the lap will be behind you and you will be looking forward to your IVF cycle.

 

[Hopeful523]

DaisyQ- Im sorry about the added stress that this brings you. But just know that your doctor does know best. These things are better if not rushed, eventhough its hard to have to keep waiting. stay positve and keep the faith. I will keep you in my prayers.
Ashknowsbest- Good luck
Jchic- Good luck on Monday!! Ill keep you in my prayerS
jersey_ Stay Positive
AFM- I had a phone call from my nurse today checking in on me and how we are after my husbands surgery last week. It kind of rehashes those sad felings of the negative outcome. So now she wants to know what our plan is since treatment has changed now. So now I have to schedule my consult to discuss IUI with DS. I am very nervous but it must be done. Can Anyone offer some advice and tell me what kind of goes on the very first time you do IUI? I appreciate it
I hope you ladies dont mind me commenting on your statuses, I know I am new, but I feel greatful to have found this thread. We all want that miracle and eventhough we have different disgnosis, we all want that baby. Its great to know how supportive you all are of eachother

 

[Kins]

DaisyQ- Im sorry about the added stress that this brings you. But just know that your doctor does know best. These things are better if not rushed, eventhough its hard to have to keep waiting. stay positve and keep the faith. I will keep you in my prayers.
Ashknowsbest- Good luck
Jchic- Good luck on Monday!! Ill keep you in my prayerS
jersey_ Stay Positive
AFM- I had a phone call from my nurse today checking in on me and how we are after my husbands surgery last week. It kind of rehashes those sad felings of the negative outcome. So now she wants to know what our plan is since treatment has changed now. So now I have to schedule my consult to discuss IUI with DS. I am very nervous but it must be done. Can Anyone offer some advice and tell me what kind of goes on the very first time you do IUI? I appreciate it
I hope you ladies dont mind me commenting on your statuses, I know I am new, but I feel greatful to have found this thread. We all want that miracle and eventhough we have different disgnosis, we all want that baby. Its great to know how supportive you all are of eachother

Hopeful- On here you can respond to ANYONE'S thread we are all in this to support one another. For me I often read posts but dont respond as often. These ladies on here have supported me through my freq doctors visit because it helps me know Im not alone

I dont know about IUI though so I cant help you there.

Me and DH are going to try it the baby dance way first if my follicles ever participate it that fails I may try the IUI. I am currently on my 2nd cycle of injections with Gonal-F my first produced too many of uneven sizes go fwd

So now we are starting extra slow hoping only one or two grow faster than the others so then we can do the ovidrel shot and baby dancing.....


I definitely am a little sadder since the first cycle of injections and all cycles of pills have not been good ugh. But hey at least I am responding to the injections right... just gotta get the right dose down.

 

[DaisyQ]

Kins I am having the same issues with my eggs being all over the place in terms of growth - but in my case, I need LOTS of eggs all at the same size.

hopeful, you are welcome to chime in as you please!
Iui is no biggie. You will go in on the third day of your cycle for bloodwork, then take meds (Clomid or injectables usually), then go in for more blood work and an ultrasound around cycle day 12 (with Clomid anyway). You may have to go in additional times until they think you are ready to trigger. Then you take an injection of ovidrel, and then you go in for the iui the next day, and the day after if you are doing back to back. They insert a speculum, and insert the sperm into your uterus with a catheter. It's not painful.

Afm, It's official. My cycle is canceled. We are converting to iui, and starting estrace during my LP to prepare for next cycle.

I asked about letting the lead ones go, in order to let the little ones catch up, but she feels this isn't going to work well, since the follicles are all over the place in size. she said if I had one big one, and all the others were growing together but just small, we could let the big one go, and let the other ones grow together to maturity. But that's not exactly what's happening here.

She said there's no way to guarantee this won't happen again. She said there are three ways to quiet the ovaries before stims - Lupron (which she doesn't recommend for me), bcp which we tried, and estrace.

She said if it does happen again, she would go ahead with ER, because apparently this is how I respond to stims. But she thinks there is a good chance for better success next cycle with the different protocol.

She said if we went through with ER, I could expect 3-4 mature eggs. Which is definitely suboptimal.

So I'm waiting for my nurse to call, but I think I am triggering tonight with iui tomorrow and saturday. So much for sleeping in!

 

[BlueStorm]

Daisy - I am so sorry to hear your news. At least your re truly cares and is making the right decision for you and your bank account. I know how disappointing this must be. Hang in there

Ash - Sorry you can't do IVF this go around but good luck with your IUI and like you said at least you aren't sitting this one out totally.

Jchic - I'm so glad you liked Dr. Bohrer. I love him! OK I am totally crying now too over that story with the baby. Not hard these days with this darn lupron.

Hopeful - Thank you for doing personals. It is always welcomed here!

Jersey - good luck with your saline, it's easy peasy

AFM - picked up all the rest of my meds yesterday. Holy cow, it is a huge shopping back full of goodies. It made me kind of nervous actually.

Monday is day one of u\s and b\w and then hopefully stims!

 

[jchic]

Dukes, glad this is working out and at least you are moving with an IUI so its not a complete bust.
When will you be starting your cycle?

 

[jchic]

YAY BLUE! You are almost there!

 

[jerseygirl412]

Aww Jchic...sorry to hear about this cycle but it's not a complete bust though right? IUI may work!!
Blue How exciting!! It's almost start time...and hoping to be in and out for the saline she said about 15 mins

Hopeful I love comments...I like to hear everyones experiences!!

 

[jerseygirl412]

Aww Jchic...sorry to hear about this cycle but it's not a complete bust though right? IUI may work!!
Blue How exciting!! It's almost start time...and hoping to be in and out for the saline she said about 15 mins

Hopeful I love comments...I like to hear everyones experiences!!

Sorry Jchic I meant Daisy...on the phone with the boss got me a little distracted!!

 

[DaisyQ]

Jchic, with triggering tonight, my next cycle should start on June 1st or 2nd - if AF shows up 13 days later like she normally does. Not sure how all the hormones of this cycle might affect my LP, but it used to be 12 days long before I started with all this IUI and endometrin and what not. I'm not going to take endometrin this time. I'm going to go in for a progesteron check on Wednesday, and if it's low, then I'll take it. I don't want to take it unless they really think I NEED to take it - you know? It's messy, and I don't want my LP to go 16 days if it's a bust.

 

[Hopeful523]

Thanks Kin Good luck!