Calling all RMA Ladies (1st page updates)

[Kins]

Yes I always do, except for when I took the Endometrin. I took them with my first two IUI cycles because I was convinced the pre AF spotting was bad news and might be preventing an embryo from sticking. Now I'm not as convinced, and I thought I'd give a natural luteal phase a try, especially since my progesterone levels seem normal. Honestly, I don't really care, and I'm not surprised. I wasn't holding out much hope. I usually spot for 1-2 days before she shows, but I'm feeling a bit crampy, so my guess is she will be here pretty soon.

Blue- thats what I was thinking too. I really need to think about things...

Ash- yup. sounds like my doctor would have been willing at 4 follicles too but she would want me to reduce. Would your doc let you try and carry four babies?

Daisy-sorry about af ;-( I am 29yo so I think I will have time to keep trying. Unfortunately this cycle I had 4-5follicles she said popped up over night. I guess thats a good thing for me if I do choose IVF in the future

Helena-by reduce I mean if I were to do IUI and all 4 eggs fertilize my doctor would not allow that because it is risky for me and the babies she would want me to reduce/terminate 2 of those pregnancies that were fertilized. I told her I could not do that therefore she had said we should not go forward. That was last cycle.

Afm-this cycle we took it slower with lower doses so I wouldn't get crazy # of follicles because I wanted to try timed/IuI with out having to "reduce". It was going well I had two follicles close to ready yesterday but this morning I had too many. Crazy how quick these things can pop up

Doctor called me about 45mins ago. Looks like 4-5 ripe ones. Again since I don't want to reduce we have to stop the cycle and go on bc for 10days. She said my next options are tying this again which is tedious but she is willing to do it slow and low as long as I am. OR we go in w/heavy doses and do IVF.

Gotta talk to the Dh when I get home.

 

[Kins]

BTW blue I love this RMA thread. haha

 

[ashknowsbest]

Well I think my doctor would probably let me try however OH and I have discussed this being an issue and I would be willing to reduce ... I don't mean to sound horrible but it would be better for the babies and for my own health to reduce if that were to happen. Who knows when I actually am in that situation .. if I ever am, what I would honestly do but at this point OH and I are willing to deal with 3, welcome 2 and of course welcome one ... four is another situation at this point but we'll see what happens. I don't think it's that likely that all 4 fertilize and implant with IUI anyways. And I've only ever had 3 follicles but I would still proceed even if there were 4.

Are all 4-5 of your follicles mature? Do you know the sizes?

 

[Kins]

Don't really remember I think 20/22/17 not sure though

 

[ashknowsbest]

Oh okay well the 17 ones are on the verge of mature but not completely mature ... well I mean they might be but I know that my doctor likes to see them at 22mm.

 

[Kins]

Ok new day new beginnings. Have a good Thursday ladies. It I Thursday right? Haha

 

[jchic]

Hi ladies!

Dukes - so sorry to hear about AF....absolute worst. Your new cycle will be here asap.
Blue - Good Luck today! Cannot wait to hear!
Ash - when do you think you will be triggering?
Kins - are you coverting this cycle to IVF?

AFM - went to the doc for my post op and ANOTHER FUCKING ENDOMETRIOMA IS THERE ON MY OVARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHATTTTT THEEEE FUCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its small, and she said that sometimes when they remove the cyst that some strands are still left over, they collpase on themselves and create a new cyst. OF COURSE this would happen to me! I mean, why wouldnt it! Ugh. I totally lost it to say the least. She wasnt concerned and basically told me that she isnt going to operate again and that its small and that its not going to affect IVF, so lets focus on me getting pregnant. Which is fine, but I seriously just had surgery a week ago. 1 WEEK! and a cyst is now there? I am really starting to think that this isnt my plan, because everywhere I go there is a roadblock

 

[ashknowsbest]

jchic - sorry you have another cyst right after surgery. Life does suck at times, it throws all of these crazy things at you but I think you will have success you just have to push through and it will all be worth it in the end!

I'm really not sure at this point when I'll be triggering. My doctor wants to go really slow with the injectables because right now I have about 10 follicles on each ovary and he said that if he increases my dose too much, it will pretty much make all of them grow quicker, making me have too many mature follicles and he won't do the IUI if I have more than 4 mature so he's really just taking it slow and steady at this point. I've been in every other day since I started the meds and the first couple of times there really wasn't much progress with the follicles .. the main 2 stayed at 10 for about 3 days but today they're at 11 and 12, so they are making progress I just have to stay patient and wait it out. I would rather not get OHSS or cysts or anything so I'm just happy he's being careful.

Looking on the bright side, he said I'm responding beautifully to the injectables and should we have to move onto IVF he said he thinks I'll get some great and a lot of eggs so that's the good news!

I hope everyone is doing good.

Daisy - best of luck when you test! I have my FX'd for you even though you said you were spotting.

 

[BlueStorm]

Sorry I am so late with my update. I was not feeling great and slept most of the day!

Feeling much better now. So we got 17 eggies. No clue how many where mature, ect. We wil get a call tomorrow morning as to how many fertilized. I pray we get a good number. They don't give us another update until the day before transfer which would be tuesday. That is a long wait.

So all in all it went well. I was nervous and my heart rate was sky high when they hooked me up but I got over it and did ok.

Thanks all for thinking of me today!

 

[BlueStorm]

Jchic - So sorry to hear you have a new cyst. WTF? Don't worry it will not affect anything for IVF. I know it feels like everything keeps going wrong, this is the game of inferility and it sucks. You WILL get there and you will be pregnant soon

 

[BlueStorm]

I got the anxiously awaited call about an hour ago. Out of the 17 eggs, 15 were mature and 10 fertilized. I am very happy with that number. Now we just have to pray that they keep growing

Has anyone heard any info on the study RMA is doing where they inject hcg into the uterus before transferring the embryo's back in? They asked me if I wanted to do this. I have to let them know the day before ET. It is supposed to help with implantation or at least that is what they are trying to prove. I guess it couldn't hurt, right? It's a 50\50 chance that you will get the hcg. One group will and one group will not so they can compare.

 

[jchic]

Blue, great numbers doll! Havent heard of that study, but it seriously cant hurt....DO IT!

 

[DaisyQ]

Blue, I know about that study. I'm enrolled in a different one, so I can't do both, but if it's looking like I can't proceed with the current study, which requires that at least 8 mature eggs are retrieved, then I will try to do that study.

I don't think it can hurt, only help.

As I mentioned elsewhere, IUI was a bust. AF arrived. I just got back from day 3 monitoring. Two cysts. 26mm and 17mm. I can't catch a break. Won't be surprised if my cycle gets canceled again. Only 10 antral follicles because of those two cysts.

 

[ashknowsbest]

Blue - I vote do the study It can't hurt!

Daisy - so sorry about the cysts. It does seem like there's always something but you will get through it!

AFM - I had my CD 15 scan this morning and I have two follicles that are near mature, they're 14mm and 16mm so he said they might have me go in tomorrow morning again and get scanned and then maybe IUI Monday morning ... ? I'm a little stressed to be honest because we still haven't gotten OH's genetic results back. So, we talked about it this morning and we think that even if the results aren't back we're going to go through with the IUI and this is why:

1. If I don't go through with the IUI when we apply for IVF if this cycle is a bust we're probably not going to be able to get the approval because they're going to want to see that we actually tried and didn't just take the meds and cancel the cycle.

2. The odds that OH is a carrier are about 4%, I believe it's like a 1 in 25 chance that he has it so they're not that high.

3. The odds that the IUI is going to work it about 25% so ....

4. Some of you might be annoyed at this but we've thought about this a lot and we decided that, if we go through with the IUI and he comes back a carrier then we can always stop the pregnancy ... ? It sounds really awful but we feel like the odds aren't really that great to get pregnant anyways and we haven't had success with IUI before so we really don't want to waste the cycle.

Any advice or thoughts on any of this would be appreciated!

 

[DaisyQ]

I would probably go for it too, since the odds are low that he is also a carrier. If it works, and he is a carrier, you could find out via amnio I think. I support you no matter what. Your body, your decision.

Got the call. E2 level is good. Moving forward, cysts and all.

 

[ashknowsbest]

thanks daisy! I appreciate that! Sometimes people are really judgmental and I'm really happy you understand

 

[marie44]

Ash - i would go forward with the iui. I don't know a lot about being a CF carrier, but even if dh is, that doesn't mean it will definitely pass to the baby, right? Regardless, i would go forward. The whole process is so stressful.

Daisy - i know women who are pg with cysts a lot larger than that & they just keep an eye on them every u/s. they say it isn't a risk to the baby, but it they get too big, they can be painful at times. I'm not an expert though but i would move forward too. They are really small and hopefully won't get too much bigger.

Bluestorm- i would do the study. RMA is pretty cutting edge & i would trust it would only help your chances.

 

[ashknowsbest]

marie - yes you're right it doesn't necessarily pass to the baby everytime however there is a 1 in 4 chance the baby will get it but that is if he even comes back positive. I found another study on CF carriers and caucasian couples have a 1 in about 814 chance of both being carriers so that just makes me think we're making the right decision because that's not very likely. If he does come back positive though there are things we can do to find out if the baby has it before it's born like CVS ... I don't know if anyone has heard of it but I read up on it and it can be done at 11 weeks and it's where they take a piece of the placenta and test that so ... I think we need to not stress about it soo much until we actually have success anyways.

I mean we're definitely taking it seriously but until we're pregnant it's not something I should obsess over because it's just going to stress me out!

 

[DaisyQ]

marie - yes you're right it doesn't necessarily pass to the baby everytime however there is a 1 in 4 chance the baby will get it but that is if he even comes back positive. I found another study on CF carriers and caucasian couples have a 1 in about 814 chance of both being carriers so that just makes me think we're making the right decision because that's not very likely. If he does come back positive though there are things we can do to find out if the baby has it before it's born like CVS ... I don't know if anyone has heard of it but I read up on it and it can be done at 11 weeks and it's where they take a piece of the placenta and test that so ... I think we need to not stress about it soo much until we actually have success anyways.

I mean we're definitely taking it seriously but until we're pregnant it's not something I should obsess over because it's just going to stress me out!

Ash, I couldn't agree more with your reasoning. The chance that BOTH of you are carriers is small, and the cumulative likelihood of you both being carries, AND getting pregnant through this IUI, AND the baby having it, is just so small. And like you said, you can find out at 11 weeks and make a decision then. I wouldn't stress over it.

 

[BlueStorm]

Blue - I vote do the study It can't hurt!

Daisy - so sorry about the cysts. It does seem like there's always something but you will get through it!

AFM - I had my CD 15 scan this morning and I have two follicles that are near mature, they're 14mm and 16mm so he said they might have me go in tomorrow morning again and get scanned and then maybe IUI Monday morning ... ? I'm a little stressed to be honest because we still haven't gotten OH's genetic results back. So, we talked about it this morning and we think that even if the results aren't back we're going to go through with the IUI and this is why:

1. If I don't go through with the IUI when we apply for IVF if this cycle is a bust we're probably not going to be able to get the approval because they're going to want to see that we actually tried and didn't just take the meds and cancel the cycle.

2. The odds that OH is a carrier are about 4%, I believe it's like a 1 in 25 chance that he has it so they're not that high.

3. The odds that the IUI is going to work it about 25% so ....

4. Some of you might be annoyed at this but we've thought about this a lot and we decided that, if we go through with the IUI and he comes back a carrier then we can always stop the pregnancy ... ? It sounds really awful but we feel like the odds aren't really that great to get pregnant anyways and we haven't had success with IUI before so we really don't want to waste the cycle.

Any advice or thoughts on any of this would be appreciated!

Ash - First off don't worry nobody is here to judge you. Like Daisy said it's your body and your decision.

I would probably go for it as well. Odds are so low for this to happen.

Good luck with whatever you decide but don't forget we are all here for you no matter what.

I would probably go for it too, since the odds are low that he is also a carrier. If it works, and he is a carrier, you could find out via amnio I think. I support you no matter what. Your body, your decision.

Got the call. E2 level is good. Moving forward, cysts and all.

Yay! So happy you are able to move forward.

Ash - i would go forward with the iui. I don't know a lot about being a CF carrier, but even if dh is, that doesn't mean it will definitely pass to the baby, right? Regardless, i would go forward. The whole process is so stressful.

Daisy - i know women who are pg with cysts a lot larger than that & they just keep an eye on them every u/s. they say it isn't a risk to the baby, but it they get too big, they can be painful at times. I'm not an expert though but i would move forward too. They are really small and hopefully won't get too much bigger.

Bluestorm- i would do the study. RMA is pretty cutting edge & i would trust it would only help your chances.

Thanks Maire, I decided I am going to do it. There is a 50% chance I will not get the hcg but hopefully I will and it will help!