child benifits UK girls....not good news

[Hayley90]

yeh i dont live off benefits! my husband works full time and he actually walks 5 miles to work in the rain because he cant drive....Hayley90 im sorry but u have no idea how expensive cornwall is to live in and how hard it is t find a job that pays for that £8000 a yr!! i am not willing to go work all hrs never see my kids to b in the same financial situation....its a very low paid area and the cost of living is extortionate and very temp due to it being a holiday resort.

Come live in kent where i pay almost a thousand a month for a 2 bed flat. I can assure you cornwall isnt the only pricey place to live in the UK! Where did i say anything bad about your post? I just pointed out that you would in fact earn more money by working, which is a fact.

My salary is less than £15k a year, BEFORE TAX so i can assure you i know the feeling of "working for very little" incredibly well. Doesn't change my situation though... so i dont really see what you're getting at by singling me out there?

 

[country_girl8]

yeh i dont live off benefits! my husband works full time and he actually walks 5 miles to work in the rain because he cant drive....Hayley90 im sorry but u have no idea how expensive cornwall is to live in and how hard it is t find a job that pays for that £8000 a yr!! i am not willing to go work all hrs never see my kids to b in the same financial situation....its a very low paid area and the cost of living is extortionate and very temp due to it being a holiday resort.

Come live in kent where i pay almost a thousand a month for a 2 bed flat. I can assure you cornwall isnt the only pricey place to live in the UK! Where did i say anything bad about your post? I just pointed out that you would in fact earn more money by working, which is a fact.

My salary is less than £15k a year, BEFORE TAX so i can assure you i know the feeling of "working for very little" incredibly well. Doesn't change my situation though... so i dont really see what you're getting at by singling me out there?

Well thats up to you if you feel u need to work i personally dont. My husband most probably earns nothing like yours does either try not even 15k!! and hes also studying a history degree to become a teacher. I have 3 children under school age who would all ahve to go into childcare that would b a fortune....and i think u shouldn't be judging everyone as you dont know their circumstances at all maybe u should look at the familys where non of them work before criticizing mine

 

[Hayley90]

yeh i dont live off benefits! my husband works full time and he actually walks 5 miles to work in the rain because he cant drive....Hayley90 im sorry but u have no idea how expensive cornwall is to live in and how hard it is t find a job that pays for that £8000 a yr!! i am not willing to go work all hrs never see my kids to b in the same financial situation....its a very low paid area and the cost of living is extortionate and very temp due to it being a holiday resort.

Come live in kent where i pay almost a thousand a month for a 2 bed flat. I can assure you cornwall isnt the only pricey place to live in the UK! Where did i say anything bad about your post? I just pointed out that you would in fact earn more money by working, which is a fact.

My salary is less than £15k a year, BEFORE TAX so i can assure you i know the feeling of "working for very little" incredibly well. Doesn't change my situation though... so i dont really see what you're getting at by singling me out there?

Well thats up to you if you feel u need to work i personally dont. My husband most probably earns nothing like yours does either try not even 15k!! and hes also studying a history degree to become a teacher. I have 3 children under school age who would all ahve to go into childcare that would b a fortune....and i think u shouldn't be judging everyone as you dont know their circumstances at all maybe u should look at the familys where non of them work before criticizing mine

I think you should do the same - my OH earns less than i do and has just lost his job. He is a fire alarm engineer's apprentice, and a TA soldier for this country.

Your harsh attitude is a little surprising to me, especially as ive said nothing bad to you whatsoever?? You're getting defensive for no reason!

Where have i judged you? Where have I judged anyone in particular? All i've done is state fact, and if the truth hurts then i apologise.

Dont criticise me when your entire post is highly hypocritical.

 

[Jem_x3]

Hmm.. alot of different opinions here..

I believe that at least one person in your household should be working. If you have a husband or OH that can support you financially then fair enough, it's not like you're claiming loads of benefits and living off them. But if you're a single mum, or a teen mum, it isn't so easy to go to work and I wouldn't begrudge them the money they receieve.. Especially if you're in education, have no friends or family to help out or can't afford child care. I feel as though some comments are tarnishing everyone with the same brush. It's probably not supposed to look that way but it does..

I do get alot of the points though. If both (hypothetical, not aimed at anyone) you and OH are claiming benefits then it's not okay and extra effort should be made to find work. Different story if neither can work but that's not the case in many circumstances. That being said I think some people are being made out to be less of a Mother because they claim benefits, which isn't the case at all. There are alot of people out there who will abuse the system and it's always been that way. There are alot of selfish people in the world but that's neither here nor there.. It's like any subject, there will always be a massive difference of opinion and that's human nature I guess. I'm not going to rip at anyone for their opinion, I personally claim benefits at the moment but I'm also applying for work, does that make me a bad person? In some people's eyes maybe But I don't think, whoever it was that said it, was wrong in saying there aren't alot of jobs. There's been plenty of times, especially before I was pregnant and just left school, that I applied for LOADS of jobs, and never heard anything back. It isn't so easy to say just go in there and flash a smile and a nice personality when there could be hundreds of others doing the same. That being said at least an effort is being made

This post is all over the place and I apologise, I just see it from both sides I guess. Haha maybe I should just keep my opinions to myself!

Oh and before anyone jumps down my throat I totally respect those mummies who are out working full time, it's extremely hard and alot of jobs in this country pay pittance. I'm not defending sitting around living off benefits, but the system is there to help people who are in need and I don't think it's ok to knock the system or anyone who really does need it

 

[country_girl8]

well i felt like u were attacking me and u always have targeted miss danielle from previos posts ive seen and they were very harsh

 

[Hayley90]

well i felt like u were attacking me and u always have targeted miss danielle from previos posts ive seen and they were very harsh

Where have i attacked you? Please tell me, because i think all ive done is state fact.

Danielles posts were highly hypocritical and contradictory, and she has said HERSELF she didnt feel targeted or attacked by anyone in particular. We simply questioned her reasoning, and challenged her viewpoint. Mods have been on here, and if anyone was attacking i think there would be infractions issued. There havent, so i dont think its as bad as you're making out.

Why just single me out? Whats your issue with me?

Adjust your attitude.

 

[country_girl8]

i dont even know u but it seems you feel both parents should work and put their children into nursery when that isnt always as easy or worthwhile for some familys. Back in the 50's 60's etc the mother stayed at home thats how ive been brought up and i want the same for my children until they start school

 

[Hayley90]

I feel if one parents salary isnt enough to pay for everyones needs, then both should work. rather than 1 work/1 claim, or neither work etc.

As already stated it is now always better off to work than it is to claim, this is the reason the benefits system is being overhauled.

Stay at home all you like, its when people claim benefits for the priviledge that gets me. We dont all have that luxury. i dont see why i should leave my baby at home, while others choose to stay behind and claim a chunk of my taxes to do so.


Anyone else want to have a go at hayley today?

 

[My_First]

i dont even know u but it seems you feel both parents should work and put their children into nursery when that isnt always as easy or worthwhile for some familys. Back in the 50's 60's etc the mother stayed at home thats how ive been brought up and i want the same for my children until they start school

To be fair, in the 50s and 60s people were not claiming benefits to do so.

 

[Hayley90]

i dont even know u but it seems you feel both parents should work and put their children into nursery when that isnt always as easy or worthwhile for some familys. Back in the 50's 60's etc the mother stayed at home thats how ive been brought up and i want the same for my children until they start school

To be fair, in the 50s and 60s people were not claiming benefits to do so.

thankyou x

 

[xerinx]

i dont even know u but it seems you feel both parents should work and put their children into nursery when that isnt always as easy or worthwhile for some familys. Back in the 50's 60's etc the mother stayed at home thats how ive been brought up and i want the same for my children until they start school

To be fair, in the 50s and 60s people were not claiming benefits to do so.

thankyou x

Totally agree!

 

[country_girl8]

I feel if one parents salary isnt enough to pay for everyones needs, then both should work. rather than 1 work/1 claim, or neither work etc.

As already stated it is now always better off to work than it is to claim, this is the reason the benefits system is being overhauled.

Stay at home all you like, its when people claim benefits for the priviledge that gets me. We dont all have that luxury. i dont see why i should leave my baby at home, while others choose to stay behind and claim a chunk of my taxes to do so.


Anyone else want to have a go at hayley today?

im not getting into an argument with u...you clearly think im scum but one day u may fall off ur high horse good bye

 

[Jem_x3]

Oh no I definitely agree, if one person's salary isn't enough then both parents should work. I'd love for OH's salary to be able to cover everything but it just doesn't and we're struggling every month. I'm hoping to get back into full time work, OH doesn't get the privilege to see Isabella 24/7 like I do and it isn't fair on him to take the burden of our finances on himself. Plus I hate sitting at home all day, I need to see some human faces instead of sitting and posting on BnB

 

[Yazz_n_bump]

Lol is this STILL going on?

Think we're well away from the original post now!

 

[v2007]

i dont even know u but it seems you feel both parents should work and put their children into nursery when that isnt always as easy or worthwhile for some familys. Back in the 50's 60's etc the mother stayed at home thats how ive been brought up and i want the same for my children until they start school

To be fair, in the 50s and 60s people were not claiming benefits to do so.

thankyou x

Totally agree!

Fabulous point

V xxx

 

[Hayley90]

I feel if one parents salary isnt enough to pay for everyones needs, then both should work. rather than 1 work/1 claim, or neither work etc.

As already stated it is now always better off to work than it is to claim, this is the reason the benefits system is being overhauled.

Stay at home all you like, its when people claim benefits for the priviledge that gets me. We dont all have that luxury. i dont see why i should leave my baby at home, while others choose to stay behind and claim a chunk of my taxes to do so.


Anyone else want to have a go at hayley today?

im not getting into an argument with u...you clearly think im scum but one day u may fall off ur high horse good bye

excuse me?????
I dont think anyone is "scum" and im not on any high horse.

 

[KaceysMummy]

i dont even know u but it seems you feel both parents should work and put their children into nursery when that isnt always as easy or worthwhile for some familys. Back in the 50's 60's etc the mother stayed at home thats how ive been brought up and i want the same for my children until they start school

To be fair, in the 50s and 60s people were not claiming benefits to do so.

thankyou x

Totally agree!

Totally agree too!

Although its not her fault the benefit systems there...if its there people will use it.

My husband works, I stay at home with the LO, I will go back to work, I've worked all my life. We don't get any benefits though even though I don't work as we are married, we don't want any either cause we don't need them.

xx

 

[My_First]

Oh and no one called you scum, really. This seems to be the stock response from people on this thread when others disagree. 'You think we are scum,' 'you should thinking about the lower classes other than yourselves'. Its not about class or scum, its about living, working or and claiming. Just because people disagree with you does not mean anyone thinks any less of you...its called differing opinons.

 

[helen1234]

i've got no arguement with a sahm who's oh works for a living, i'm a sahm and i always intended that when me and oh had children i would stay home till they started school, i have a good career to go back to, i was a working full time single parent with a disabled child in tow. i did miss out and before me and oh decided to have children ourselves we took a small mortgage and did a house up and made sure we could manage on his wage. if he was to come out of work tomorrow i'm pregnant but if i wasnt i'd get a job in my career tomorrow.

what bugs me is two parents sat at home on there backside and still producing children and going out seeking what ever handout they can without paying a penny back into the system and have no intention of either of them getting a job.

i got the hip grant by 2days, and i get the sure start grant as well, i dont rely on it, but they'll both go to the baby and wont be spent on anything else but the baby

 

[Hayley90]

i dont believe in a class system, or in calling people degrading names. You dont know me, youve said that yourself. if you took the time, youd understand that i am the least insulting cruel person... perhaps you should look in the mirror and ask yourself the same question, i would never DREAM of saying that to someone i dont know.