child benifits UK girls....not good news

[v2007]

WOW at some of the comments on here, how people got from benefits cuts to deprived children is beyond me.

We have know about these cuts for a long time and as much as we bitch about them, they are coming.

We live in a society where the word 'entitled' is thrown around all the time.

They are there to help people who really are struggling, not people who choose to stay at home because the benefits they get are easier to recieve rather than doing a days honest graft.

V xxx

 

[My_First]

Mothers on the other hand, already have a full time job and deserve years with there children!

This I agree with, but I cannot spend 'years' with my children, I will have to go back to work, probably full time, if we are going to keep the mortgage and bills paid. Yet, if I was not working and claiming everthing under the sun, I could make it a lifestyle choice and stay with my child for years. Under the new Government shake up, its going to mean you will be better of working than not, and hopefully encourage peopel to work...

 

[AP]

I seriously think more of us should have voted the MILF party in......

 

[v2007]

I seriously think more of us should have voted the MILF party in......

Dont forget the Monster Raving Loony Party, they are well madder than YOU!!!! i think

V xxx

 

[Hayley90]

Sb22

My mum is going back to work soon, and the job centre took her through all the numbers, and in every circumstance she is better off working. And she has had a SHIT year in 2010.. she was at rock bottom in a womens refuge.

So anyone who says you'll miss out working... think again!

 

[Jemma_x]

Leni is certainly not a deprived child.

I am on benefits because im unable to work and my OH is my carer. I do agree 500 is alot with the 190 but it does come in handy and certainly did for us but for me more than anything id love to be able to go out there and work and be able to earn money because i lead such a lonely life because i cant go anywere on my own. Not thinking of pregant/ new mums now but for the people who are on benefits just because they cant be bothered to work i cant understand how they manage just sitting around all day doing nothing as i said above its a really lonely life to lead.

Please dont shout at me(runs to hide)

 

[sequeena]

Leni is certainly not a deprived child.

I am on benefits because im unable to work and my OH is my carer. I do agree 500 is alot with the 190 but it does come in handy and certainly did for us but for me more than anything id love to be able to go out there and work and be able to earn money because i lead such a lonely life because i cant go anywere on my own. Not thinking of pregant/ new mums now but for the people who are on benefits just because they cant be bothered to work i cant understand how they manage just sitting around all day doing nothing as i said above its a really lonely life to lead.

Please dont shout at me(runs to hide)

I am exactly the same as you Except OH has to work... it's so hard especially as he works nights so he has to ring me nearly every hour to make sure I'm ok.

I don't go anywhere by myself either... and I hate myself for losing that independance. It's got worse since my abuser was found not guilty and now I'm terrified I'll bump into him when out

 

[Samemka]

Totally agree with vinteenage.

I'm glad all these benefits are being cut.

well maby if you were in a situation where you had the smallest amount of money then you wouldnt have the same veiw.
From all your posts i read you seem to have a very snobish attitude. I will say right now that the £500 and the £190 or whetever it is really did help me, my family dont have much money and so it does help some familys that have no savings and little money coming in. Maby you could afford to buy everything but some people dont, i think you need to take that into consideration other peopes situations before posting.

I think they should have a cut off point for who should get it not completely take it away! Its totally unfair to people who genuinly wouldnt be able to afford to buy things without it.

And maybe before going in all guns blazing, maybe i have been in that situation before?

Before my fiance was lucky enough to become successful in his job, we relied TOTALLY on the benefit system. We were on jobseekers, housing benefits, every single benefit going, we had it. I know exactly what it's like to struggle, actually.

I'm sorry you find me 'snobbish' but i'm damn well proud of what we have worked for and if that makes me snobbish, i couldn't give a monkeys. I'm also damn well sick of all these benefits available. So yes, i am glad they have clamped down.

And for all these people saying 'we need the money' .. What do you think people did BEFORE benefits were around? They just had to get buy. There have been people living off hardly anything before benefits and they survived..

As i said before, we totally relied on the goverment before we found and worked hard at our jobs, so i know exactly where people are coming from. We had barely anything, we didn't eat for days, lived in the cold, it was awful. however, i do believe the government hand out money willy nilly, and too much of it. I did take the 190, but refused the 500. Babies are not expensive. They are only expensive if you make them so.

So, yes i do stand by my earlier post that i am glad the government is clamping down. We are in too much debt. It's up the parent to pay for their child as best they can, not the government. It's not snobbish, it's logical.

Your only glad that the benefits are cut now that YOU DON'T NEED THEM ! If you were still broke then I'm sure you'd be gutted ! Wow babies aren't expensive huh ? I'm the stingiest of them all but I know my self that the basics a child needs works out to be very expensive ! ...Wonder what you have deprived your kid ...

Wow....people that stupid really do exist don't they?!

You're in for a huge wake up call when your baby arrives!

 

[Katie Mc]

Everyones financial situation is different and we should remember that, talking about benefits just causes arguments.

me and OH both work and get tax credits as a top up of our wage, we are not rich or poor and some weeks we have nothing left. I think if benefits stopped we would be ok but would have to change our finances and not live beyond our means, and by living beyond are means i mean sorting our catalog, loans, overdrafts out, these we got when times were bad and a lot of people go through these bad times.

Lets not be so judgemental

 

[PleaseBaby]

Leni is certainly not a deprived child.

I am on benefits because im unable to work and my OH is my carer. I do agree 500 is alot with the 190 but it does come in handy and certainly did for us but for me more than anything id love to be able to go out there and work and be able to earn money because i lead such a lonely life because i cant go anywere on my own. Not thinking of pregant/ new mums now but for the people who are on benefits just because they cant be bothered to work i cant understand how they manage just sitting around all day doing nothing as i said above its a really lonely life to lead.

Please dont shout at me(runs to hide)

I agree completely! I'm bored stupid at the moment while on maternity leave

 

[xUniquex]

a lot of valid points here but haven't heard anyone mention the fact that there are hardley any jobs.. and the ones that are there get 100's of applicants..also a lot are minimum wage with temp contracts so businesses can make cutbacks if need be!

it's easy enough for people to say those on benefits need to go out to work,but we are forgetting that at the moment lots of jobs are being cut,and there are not many jobs to 'go out and get'!

it seems a lot of the replies are based on stereotypes and not the bigger picture.Benefits are a godsend for the poor families whose main earner has been made redundant and have lost their homes as a result.

As for the state of the country,it's due to a lot of things,benefits,bankers and their 6 figure bonuses,MP's expenses and immigration.

I understand some saying they think the system 'gives' too much and we shouldn't claim it unless we 'need' it,but i dont see the MP's having the same attitude when it comes to them!Earning 150k a year and claiming for lightbulbs,moats and toilet paper?!

Too much focus is placed on ripping the lower classes apart IMO

 

[AP]

I heard the best excuses last week on another baby forum. Because of the nursery workers who were jailed recently shown on the news, this was good enough excuse not to work and put baby in nursery.

Couldn't believe it

 

[aob1013]

That's vile Sandie!!

 

[polo_princess]

Actually, around here there are quite a lot of jobs, always 4/5 pages plus in the newspapers, but seems some people are fussy about what they do, too over qualifieid for shop work or manual labour.

I think its all depends on your area as to how much work is actually available , we've employed 3 people in the past few months at work who have just taken the piss and not turned up after accepting a job and just generally messing us around when we could have given it to someone who genuinley wanted it, not just to get the social off their backs so their jobseekers allowance wont get stopped.

 

[My_First]

@xUniqueX
Thats not strictly true. Lets just take Reading (where I live) as an example.

Job Centre - Over 100 JObs https://jobseekers.direct.gov.uk/li...c89-99a85d658083&pid=4&sid=266441096&p=1&so=1

JObsite - Reading 2785
https://www.jobsite.co.uk/cgi-bin/a...gency_id=&vr=&agency_group_id=&agency_id=&vr=

And there is Reed/Monster etc etc. If you look hard enough and want to work enough, I disagree, there is work.

Okay so a lot will not be suitable, but there are jobs out there. I get text alerts DAILY from Reed telling me about temp work. NOthing wrong with Temp work, I know quite a few 'professiona'l temps.

And you are right, MPs are not playing by the rules, thats why they are now going to Jail...

 

[Hayley90]

^^ I agree with PP.

I was on the public jobs website the other day, so employed by councils - cleaners were being paid more than me, working from 6am to 9am everyday... earning MORE THAN ME!!! I would have took that in a shot, talk about baby-friendly hours.

There were dinner ladies, cleaners, waitresses... LOADS. If you dont go out and ask around places, you'll never get a job.

People see headlines and other people saying "oh there's just nothing out there!" and take it as gospel, without actually looking for themselves... if they did that they would find something!

x

 

[AP]

That's vile Sandie!!

Tell me about it, I was stunned because it wasn't just one persons opinion, it was a huge lot of mums!

 

[Midnight_Fairy]

There was a job in my village the other day and 1500 applied for it...Theres not even that many people IN my village!

 

[KaceysMummy]

Mothers on the other hand, already have a full time job and deserve years with there children!

This I agree with, but I cannot spend 'years' with my children, I will have to go back to work, probably full time, if we are going to keep the mortgage and bills paid. Yet, if I was not working and claiming everthing under the sun, I could make it a lifestyle choice and stay with my child for years. Under the new Government shake up, its going to mean you will be better of working than not, and hopefully encourage peopel to work...

I agree with you there too, I meant until there at school or nursery, would hate if someone else had to tell me about a new word or something like that. I've worked since I was 14 so think I deserve sometime off watching my LO growing up I don't get benefits anyway - only child benefit which most people do - my hubby supports our family - for just now

But where my hubby works (which is quite well paid) some single mums have left as they get more money not working than in a full time job, which is ridiculous, but you can't really blame them, most people are money driven. Thank goodness its all changing soon though.

xx

 

[stephx]

It depends on your area really, my OH was unemployed for 10 months and we were both applying flat out for him... yes, there was a lot of jobs in the newspaper- but that doesnt really mean anything does it? You could have thousands of people applying for those 5 pages of jobs???