Clomid club- any ladies on clomid please join x

[Fern81]

I'm crying as I'm typing this.

I saw the reproductive specialist again today for more ultrasounds etc. The verdict is:
* My previous totally crap idiot doctor's procedure to remove my stage 3 endometriosis was ineffective. I have to go back on the Pill immediately to stop endo from causing more harm.
* All diagnostic signs point to me having damaged egg cells (everything is OK except for the fact that I have stage 3 endo & previous chocolate cysts; meaning that the endo probably damaged my ovaries, follicles & egg cell reserves)
* I have to start using a specific bcp to suppress the endometriosis from proliferating if I want any chance of success with IVF
* Clomid is totally useless for me and dr advised me not to take it atm. I actually DO ovulate on my own and have a huge follie growing as we speak (again, my previous F*ING dr's diagnosis of anovulation was incorrect)... however there is no guarantee that the awesome follie actually contains an egg cell/what the quality of the egg cell is.
* I need ANOTHER laparoscopy to remove all endo before IVF can be considered to have a chance of success..... my medical insurance will not pay for it so I have to make a plan to change insurance or save up.

This is all so overwhelming.

If we do manage to save up for IVF we will only be doing it once.

For this cycle: Dr prescibed a pregnyl injection to be done on Sunday just to make 100% sure I ovulate since this will be our last cycle trying semi-naturally.

In other words I have 1 cycle with a trigger, then 1 IVF cycle ahead (IF we manage to obtain the funds!) ... so just more 2 tries to get pregnant, ever.

So much to take in.

 

[Arohanui]

Oh Fern, I am so sorry to read this.

All that wasted time and money with your useless doctor - is there any chance of taking legal action to recoup any of the money you've spent on treatment that was unnecessary and/or badly done to help you fund IVF? I don't know if you have a regulator, but I would consider reporting him, if nothing else, to help others he may be 'treating' not have to go through what you have. This really feels like the ultimate betrayal - to mess with someone's chances of becoming a parent just to make money...it makes me sick.

If your trigger shot works and you do ovulate, will they be able to check the quality of the egg? Is there any option to try IUI? (I know in the UK it is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than IVF and if you ovulate and have good egg quality...)

I'm sending you such a big hug It is so much to take in, and you must be very angry and upset, but please don't think of it as just two more chances to get pregnant ever, but as two much better chances to get pregnant now that you have a doctor that knows what they're doing and is giving you the treatment and the respect that you deserve.

Sending you positive thoughts and lots of hugs

 

[k4th]

Oh fern

I'm so so sorry to read this update. I can't believe how sh*tty your other dr was! I second aronhanoui's suggestion of legal action. People should not be allowed to meddle in things they don't fully understand - whether they are a dr or not!

I'm glad you finally have a dr who is better at their job - but still, they haven't actually tested your egg quality so it is speculation at this point. I am hoping that the trigger works some magic.

When are they thinking of treating your endo?

Oh this just sucks so much fern - is your hubby being supportive in whatever way you need right now? I really hope you have someone with you right now who can just give you a big hug and listen to you while you rant it all out.

I hope that all of this adds up to one perfect & successful shot at ivf

 

[mommasboys2]

Fern I am so sad to hear this update. I can't even imagine how you must be feeling. I do not understand how your previous doctor didn't know any of this. I'm praying that you guys figure everything out and hopefully you will be able to have the funds to try IVF if this cycle doesn't work. Please keep us updated! Sending Hugs and prayers your way.

 

[MrsMcCurdy]

That is so frustrating Fern, and maddening! I would definitely pursue legal action! That's just sh*tty of anyone to take advantage of you and you're the one that has to spend the money!!
I'm so sorry you're going through this... Please keep us updated on what you decide and I'm still praying for you. *hugs*

 

[jules87]

Fern I'm so sorry to hear this. My heart is hurting for you. I can't even imagine having stage 3 endo and not having it taken care of with the first surgery. What a nightmare. Only having 2 chances to ttc is tough, but dealing with endo makes it that much worse. I wish their was a way I could make it better for you. Lots and lots of hugs your way!

 

[Fern81]

Thanks so much ladies for all the kind words and for caring so much. You all mean the world to me.

I will find out regarding legal action. In South Africa it's not very easy to sue someone; well I suppose it's easy to lodge a claim but it's very expensive and often unsuccessful due to bad service providing etc. But at least I'll find out.... maybe I can get some money back/ we can get the dr to get scrapped from the medical role/maybe just stop treating patients for infertility. Aro your suggestion to report the dr to the regulator is a good one. Will find out re the ombudsman.

Oh well DH and I can only move forward and not keep looking back. We are both so angry and upset but it just taught us to self-educate and not just always trust any professionals; we are all human and can make mistakes... so I think in future if we feel uncomfortable with ANY service provider we will move on swiftly!!!

I had the trigger shot this afternoon... not too bad. DH was a bit more stressed than me but he injected me beautifully. I guess we have to get used to injections if we want to do IVF some day. I'm not putting any hopes on this cycle though. It's weird that I've wished I could go back on BCP so many times and now I'm forced to. (Be careful what you wish for right).

Dr can not test my egg cell quality without going through the whole oocyte respiration procedure that they use for IVF in any case. That is one of the reasons he suggested we try IVF as it will serve as a diagnostic tool too. He did suggest IUI as well but DID mention that it will not boost our chances very much if I do have crap egg cells. So we decided to do IVF (actually ICSI) first and then if my egg cells are not too bad we might do IUI after.

My endo will be treated next year probably, we first have to sort out finances & get a better medical insurance. (This will be my second lap for endo; I've also had a huge abdominal surgery with 20 cm incision when I was younger to remove really large chocolate cysts and other endo growths). The nasty thing about endo is it always comes back... but if it's treated properly it takes years to grow back and that growth can be suppressed to a degree.

I think I've answered all the questions... am so humbled that you ladies are so supportive even though you all have your own struggles.

Sending you all many hugs and lots of love. xxxxx

 

[MommyTTC2]

Swimmy yes i havent started taking it yet... dont really understand what its for lol

 

[lace&pearls]

Fern, big hugs xxx This is so shit I am so angry for you. But I admire your strength, I really really really hope the lap is successful and helps you out in the long run. xxxx it sounds like you and your OH have been thinking and planning, I hope that brings you some comfort to have some steps to plan towards xxx I'll be thinking of you x

Swimmy I hope you're doing OK too, I thought I wrote a post to you but I can't seem to find it so I'm not sure if it sent have been thinking of you xxx

 

[swimmyj1]

Mommy - metformin can help regulate your hormones. it has some yucky side effects but for some women it works really well with clomid. but it takes about 1-2 months to start regulating. I just stopped taking mine this month sense i'm not ttc this cycle and want to wait and see what the FS says.

lace&pearls - thanks for thinking of me. Doing a lot better actually just taking it day by day. Next time i get a bfp I'm not telling my mother she has just been so negative about this MC that no way can i take it from her again ugh.

AFM - really nervous about seeing the FS tomorrow. Not sure why sense it's not even for testing or anything just an initial 1st visit but we will see. I really hope they can help us out.

 

[LouOscar01]

Hello, I've just suffered a miscarriage of my tiny clomid baby so I'll be back in the Clomid club again soon. Obviously I'm still grieving but trying to be positive and look ahead. xx

 

[jules87]

hi LouOscar. I'm sorry for your loss. Welcome to the club, hope to see you around!

Hey everyone! Just thought I'd check in. I haven't been on much since DH and I aren't actively ttc and I'm obviously not on Clomid. So, the only update I have is on the fire situation... We were able to get everything cleaned up thankfully. We are still waiting on insurance to give the go ahead for construction though. Good news, we are looking for a car this weekend!

I hope everyone is doing well. Happy Friday! Have a wonderful weekend.

 

[swimmyj1]

LouOscar01 - I am so sorry. I also had a loss this month, its not easy. Sending you lots of hugs.

Meeting with the FS was helpful. Next visit is the 22nd, I think the plan is to do a repeat SA, do clomid again with shot progesterone??? If no healthy pregnancy in 3 cycles moving on to IUI with sperm wash. Fingers crossed. It feels really nice to have a plan. On a bad note my DH is out of town for the week hunting and no Bedding for me during this possible fertile window lol.

jules87 - sense you won't be on much i would love to stay in touch. Email me or something

 

[sunflower82]

Hi ladies I would like to join you I will be taking
Clomid for the first time on cd 5 here is more info on my ttc journey
I have a five year old daughter I had a mc at 18 weeks two years ago

can ttc get any harder I'm so fed up every month af comes a few days early or late I had a pelvic ultrasound done and everything is good so why is this happening to me we are on too month 21 now of trying I will be taking Clomid as my doctor said if no this month ! So how does Clomid work I'm a bit nervous about taking it what are the side effects and does it contain hcg in it I will will call my doctor and ask him tomorrow as I forgot what he said last month when he gave me the prescription for Clomid I'm so upset I been crying on and off today af showed up early this month !

 

[Fern81]

Hi ladies

Just popping in to say hi... went to buy my pack of Qlaira to start next Tuesday (when AF arrives)... it will be weird to be back on the pill after so long. And to have nothing to say ttc wise anymore. For now; not feeling the trigger side effects too much anymore. I can't imagine that it will make any kind of difference; not symptom spotting this month, nada. It's like even my subconscious has given up.

Raising the rescue babes from the cat shelter is taking up a lot of time lol I have babies crying in the house which I love . It's really awesome to have a little warm body in the house even though it's not human. And unlike human babies, these lil ones can be locked up and left on their own safely with food & beds when I have to go to my classroom etc. They are a Godsend and helping me heal!

Good luck to everyone pregnant with a clomid baby, starting clomid, carrying on with the clomid journey or taking a break. I will be stopping in from time to time but obviously I won't have much to post until we do ICSI... and then only IF we ever manage to do it!

xx

 

[Arohanui]

Hi ladies,

Just popping in with a quick update. I was totally symptom spotting this month with my first try on Letrozole. I had O confirmed with bloods on CD28 and knew we'd BD'd at the right time. With tiredness, nausia and really sore boobs, I went against my own better judgement on Thursday (day 35) and took a test. I thought I could see a very faint BFP line and DH agreed.

We came away on holiday on Saturday with DH's family and packed another test to take a few days later to see if we could get a better line, but the AF from hell arrived on Sunday. This is the worst AF pain I've felt since I was 15 - several times I thought I was going to faint from the pain - but annoyingly, not a lot of blood so I'm assuming my lining hasn't recovered from the clomid yet and is still very thin? I had to take a lot of pain relief, which is something I normally wouldn't do, but the pain was so bad.

But the worst bit is I forgot to pack the letrozole so I couldn't start it on Monday (CD2) like I'm supposed to. I'm so annoyed with myself. I'm annoyed I let myself think that I may be pregnant, and annoyed that I'm not, I'm annoyed that I have to take fertility drugs, I'm annoyed that they don't work, I'm annoyed that I forgot to pack them, I'm annoyed that I'm on holiday so I can't take them, I'm annoyed another month is wasted. I'm just really fed up!

 

[jules87]

Arohanui That is very frustrating! I'm sorry everything went wrong all at once, it seems like if one thing goes wrong then it all goes wrong.

 

[jules87]

Fern- it's a little depressing not seeing you around.. you were the most active member when I started posting here. I completely understand though. I hope all is well with you!

AFM- I'm just pissed at the world. I have been *bleeding* for the past 6 days. This dark brown discharge crap. (sorry, gross I know) I should have seen AF yesterday or today, still nothing. I tested this morning just to make sure, and it was negative. So I called the doctor, and they can't see me until Monday.

I hope everyone else is doing well!

 

[MissCassie]

I've been having that too! I have pcos and I had a chemical pregnancy in September... and well since my bleed from that I've had brown blood... and nothing else I tested too and negative and im oj cd38 Sorry I know it's not clomid related

 

[swimmyj1]

Why is AF such a pain in the butt!!! AF should have shown up last week after my MC but so far nothing, doesn't feel like the witch is close at all.... and we can't start any of the fertility stuff until she does and we are suppose to meet with them on Thursday.

Do you guys know how long it takes for AF to show up after a MC? my 1st one AF showed up after 2 weeks.