{CLOSED GROUP} Journey to BFP and Beyond!

[jlw617]

I'm wondering when to start testing...my opks have been weird since the mc, I feel like I may have ovulated but i honestly don't know-I can tell you that based on my normal cycles which are 26-28 days long, AF should have either already showed or be here any day...with that being said, I realize that things can definitely be out of whack as far as that's concerned, but I'm just wondering what you ladies would do...I was thinking about testing on Christmas because that would be an awesome Christmas present! I originally was going to start testing on the 21st but decided it would be best to hold out for a few more days, what do you think?

 

[zaycain]

Whew!

I have been sleeping very little and working so much. I pop on and read a little and get back to work. A lot has happened! I'm sure I've missed a ton, but I'm trying to get fall too far off the bandwagon.

T- You and your hubs are adorable! Good luck on your appointment

Natalie - So sorry about your chemical! What a way to get your hopes up huh?

KTJ - I own a branding/marketing firm for small businesses. We lost a lot of clients last year cause I just floated on by. Trying to make up for all of it now. I think the mmc was the lowest of the low.. after I felt better I wanted to just make a change.

KD - Eek! I would chalk it all up to the body being out of wack. I'm hoping that you didn't miss it!

Hubs is much better after a lot of medication. I am still fighting it, but I think I'm winning. What's good about being busy is that you completely forget that you want to ttc. I am pretty sure I am ovulating right now. I felt my left ovary twinge and my opk was slightly darker than it was the day before.

Gonna have some fun this weekend! It's our 7 year anniversary of being together so we are going to have a lovely day.


Have a great weekend ladies!

 

[coucou11]

Hi all! Great to hear from everyone. Where is Hannah? I want to hear if her test has been confirmed... let us know lady!

Natalie I am so so sorry about the fight with your husband, and the chemical. What a double whammy. Fighting with my husband is the worst, it always makes me feel sick to my stomach. I'm not a good fighter and I usually just end up getting super upset and crying. I definitely think it would be good to have along conversation about how hurt you are about what he did to all that stuff in Canada - losing some of your childhood memories is really terrible!! I hope that if you can talk through it, you can feel a little better about it, and he can know how important that kind of thing is to you. I bet it will bring you closer in the end. Whatever you decide, good luck, and I hope you guys feel better soon.

Kylee- I totally sympathize with you. When we are trying to conceive I have to hound DH to get to it - he would much rather just laze about in front of the TV. I don't know what that says about me haha! But I really hope you didn't miss O - I definitely think your cold could be causing the higher temps. FF is always saying almost anything can throw it off, from mouth breathing to too many covers. So you cold still be in the game!

Zay good to hear from you! I'm sorry work has been so busy - is this normal for this time of year? Glad you and DH are feeling better though!

Jamie - I have no idea what I am going to do with testing once we are back TTC, honestly. One day I will be like, I'm not gonna test at all until like weeks after my missed period, just because I want to wait as long as possible to go to the doc, so that if there is another missed MC I will find out early. Then I go back to thinking, no, I would be testing right away. Ugh! I would probably wait until you definitely think AF is late, that way you can be sure. Maybe do the 23rd - split the difference

Fleur has your next AF arrived yet? Hopefully this will just be a random off cycle and things will get back on course.

Terrissa I am really hoping you get some good information at your appt!! Gosh that would be such a relief. Glad you finished the antibiotics too.

AFM, nothing new - 9 DPO, temps are still high, no real signs of AF except some breaking out. I am determined to dtd tonight. Seriously it has been way too long, we just have to motivate and do it. I feel like the longer I wait the bigger a deal it becomes... ugh. I just want to get back on the TTC train! I feel like I am surrounded by pregnant people these days, I just found out my friend from college who has a son just younger than my daughter is pregnant. Sigh.

I think I will look into SMEP for this next cycle too. We did something like it when we conceived my daughter. It's basically dtd every other day from like a few days after your period through ovulation, right? And maybe every day around ovulation if possible? That seems tiring but doable, hahaha.

Hope you all have a great weekend! I will check in again tomorrow and then we leave on Sunday. But let's be honest I will totally be popping in here while in Mexico because I will miss you all!

 

[Fleur828815]

Kylee, you may find that your cycles aren't exactly the same as before the miscarriage, but I really hope you're one of those who go back to normal straight away and that the raised temp was just a glitch due to the fever.

Jamie, I would wait till the 25th to test, only if you're sure that a BFN won't spoil Christmas though.

Happy anniversary zaycain, have a wonderful weekend !

Leigh, CD 28 here and no sign of AF yet but my cycles used to be up to 32 days long so I'll give it a few more days before starting to panic! I also want to try SMEP, I think it's every other day till you get a positive OPK, 3 days straight, skip 1 day and then 1 last BD.
Hope you both manage to get into DTD mood! Enjoy your holiday

 

[kdmalk]

Fleur- I am also hoping I am one of those people that gets a normal cycle back quickly! Counting d&c as cd1, my first "cycle" was 36 days, but once I Oed, it was the same LP length as normal and then AF arrived. Hoping for a regular cycle length this time! I told FF to disregard the low temp on cd8, hoping that maybe I fell back asleep while taking my temp and my mouth popped open or something? That being said, it says I have not ovulated yet. I guess we will see what the next week holds and then determine whether or not FF was right. I should get a positive opk on Thursdayish if things are back to normal. Crossing my fingers for that.

Jamie- I say test on christmas! That would be fun!

Zay- enjoy your anniversary!

Leigh- have a wonderful trip to Mexico! I'll be here... enjoying the cold weather and rain. Ugh.

 

[Fleur828815]

Fleur- I am also hoping I am one of those people that gets a normal cycle back quickly! Counting d&c as cd1, my first "cycle" was 36 days, but once I Oed, it was the same LP length as normal and then AF arrived. Hoping for a regular cycle length this time! I told FF to disregard the low temp on cd8, hoping that maybe I fell back asleep while taking my temp and my mouth popped open or something? That being said, it says I have not ovulated yet. I guess we will see what the next week holds and then determine whether or not FF was right. I should get a positive opk on Thursdayish if things are back to normal. Crossing my fingers for that.

I got AF 34 days after the D&C but I don't know if I ovulated that cycle since I wasn't tracking. My doctor said many women don't ovulate before that first AF but didn't say anything about the next cycles.

Hope you'll get your positive OPK next week!

 

[coucou11]

Well, it looks like I'm spotting. Sigh. I was really hoping that the one positive of the miscarriage would be that my LP would be longer afterwards, but this is 10DPO (CD30 after the D&C). So that means an LP of 9 days, per usual. UGH. I'm really frustrated. We managed to get pregnant twice with this kind of LP but it still really makes me nervous about my progesterone levels. I also agree that this AF may be kind of rough - my head is killing me today, my back hurts and I'm cramping, and I'm super emotional (there were like 5 pregnant women at the park where we took my daughter this morning and I about cried).

Although, now I am wondering, doesn't low progesterone cause early miscarriages, rather than something like a missed miscarriage? Because progesterone is needed to sustain the pregnancy (which I guess my body didn't have problem with, it's just that the baby didn't make it). This is all so confusing.

Anyway, I guess this means I get to start trying sooner, anyway!

Fleur - fingers crossed for AF in the next few days for you too!

Kylee - I think it was right to disregard that temp, and now you can keep the lookout for O I also only use OPKs once per day usually, although if I think I am getting close to O then I might try twice a day (particularly if it happens to be a weekend).

 

[jlw617]

Fleur-wow that's a long cycle! I hate my cycles because of how short they are! I feel like when I start AF I just got done! Oh well, the only time I suppose it's kind of nice is while ttc but if I had the choice i don't think I'd trade 30 years of short cycles for nicety of it being short while ttc Kwim? Lol so when will you start testing?

Kylee-I think I decided I'm definitely going to test on Christmas! I know it won't ruin my day because I'm totally expecting AF to show though no real sign of her, yesterday I was getting some crazy sharp pains in my right ovary, and about a week ago I was getting some twinges and pulling in that area as well but with my body so out of wack, who knows what it could be! I hope you get your positive OPK soon!

Coucou-Im sorry about AF showing up. I hope you're still able to have some fun and definitely keep in touch, we'd miss you too if you didn't pop in atleast once!

 

[NDH]

I'll be quite for a few days as were going camping until the 23rd. It will be good for me to get away from everything for a few days. So many pregnancy announcements everywhere and I had a very bad day cause of it yesterday. Feeling more rational today at least. Though I went shopping with my girls and saw so many bellies I caught myself saying "its not fair" over and over when my 3 year old asked me "what's not fair?" Oops.

 

[kdmalk]

Natalie- have a good time getting away! Hope it will help you take your mind off things! I am feeling the same way when I see all the pregnant people around. And tonight at dinner there was a mom sitting right across from us with this 2-3 month old and I just kept STARING! I hope she didn't notice! lol

Leigh- yay for AF! And I think you are right about the progesterone and mmc. It is more of an issue with sustaining, so not so much with mmc. ALTHOUGH! My doctor did say that I am to call as soon as I am pregnant again because she is going to have me do progesterone with the next pregnancy, just because I had a loss. It doesn't really make sense to me, because I am thinking along the same line as you are and I didn't bleed or spot once.. my body was holding on to that baby. Seems like a different issue to me. But I suppose it can't hurt just in case, so I am going to do it.

In other news, I decided to pull out my old viola this evening. That has been a fun distraction, although it is a bit too small now. I think I am going to buy a bigger one now. That will be a fun christmas present for me.... I would love to get back to my previous level and join a local symphony for fun in the next few years. We will see. Have a good night everyone!

 

[Fleur828815]

Sorry about the spotting Leigh. Hope the holiday will allow you to take your mind off all this a bit. How do you work out your LP length, by temping? I was worried because just before starting to TTC, I started having brownish discharge for 2-4 days before AF, and I thought it might be a progesterone issue. I “forced” my doctor to give me supplements, which he did – for one month, but I still had that discharge for 2 days before AF. According to him it’s nothing to worry about. I’ve read/heard conflicting advice about low progesterone and miscarriage. I believe it’s mostly linked to early miscarriages indeed and not to missed miscarriages, which would be a chromosomal problem usually.

When the baby was measuring behind, my friend (a pharmacist) told me to take progesterone, and that even if it didn’t help, it wouldn’t hurt (she had a late loss at 19 weeks and for every pregnancy after that she’s had to take progesterone supplements at least throughout the first trimester). I asked my doctor and he said it wouldn’t help. Apparently, low progesterone is a symptom of a problem with the pregnancy, and not the cause of the miscarriage. As I’ve said though, there is lots of conflicting info. I know my doctor won’t prescribe it to me, or even get my levels tested next time, but other doctors like Kylee's and my friend’s will prescribe it.

Jamie, yes I would hate having short cycles except when TTC! My cycles used to be 27-32 days so if AF comes after 34 days it’s not that much longer than usual, but over a few months it makes me miss almost a month of TTC. I got negative OPKs till CD22 and haven’t DTD since then (CD29 today) so I’m not planning to test.

Hugs to you Natalie, enjoy your camping trip.

Kylee, good idea to get back into playing the viola and maybe join a symphony! I would love to be able to play an instrument. We’re going to a Christmas carols concert today, they’ve got a full orchestra and I really enjoyed it last year.

I was making my calculations last night when I couldn’t sleep and it just made me even more irritated that my body isn’t behaving. I’m not 33 yet (will be in 2 months), and 2016 seems a long way off; but between not ovulating and longer cycles, I only have 3 cycles left to try for a 2015 baby, and 4/5 cycles for a baby before I’m 34.

 

[jlw617]

Fleur-I understand the age thing, I'm also 32 and my goal is to try to have 2 more children before I'm 36 and then be done but even if we are only blessed with one more, I will be content in that. I know you know this but try not to look at it in that perspective, it will only get you down. Plus I'm sure we can all relate that age is relative to our own age, remember when you were much younger and 30 seemed old?! I've known many beautiful and wonderful mothers who have had children up until 37/38, I know I have goals age wise but don't let the idea of time get you down! On the progesterone thing, I agree that the progesterone doesn't help the baby directly but I do believe indirectly as it helps to create a "more healthy environment that is able to better sustain a baby" I also believe that doctors are people that have different opinions on different subjects just like we do, some are pro vaccination, some (though not many) are not so I feel good when I do my own research and/or know people personally that have tried it.

 

[jlw617]

Well AF decided to show up today-it was weird because I had hardly symptoms that she was coming but one of the biggest giveaways that always happens before AF for me is I FREEZE! In the back of my mind I wondered if she was coming because the last couple days I just could not get warm no matter what I did and that always happens right before AF for me but it was just odd because that was pretty much the only symptom I had I'm a little bummedI guess, but at the same time I am trying to be positive and one good thing that has come from this is that AF only took about three weeks to show after my first real day of bleeding from the MC and now even though I don't know whether I ovulated in between MC and AF I have a good feeling that my body is back on track especially since this is almost the exact day I would be on af, had it not been for the miscarriage so hopefully I will ovulate in about 14 days

 

[tcinks]

Hi ladies! I've been keeping up with all your posts but just have not had time to reply! I'll try to get on that later this week. I hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas!

 

[Fleur828815]

Thank you Jamie, you're totally right, there's no point setting deadlines. I know I'm ready to push them back anyway because I want a baby SO much.
Bummer about AF but it's good that your body might be getting back on track so quickly. You'll be able to start TTC again in just a few days!
P.S :That must be the weirdest pre-menstrual symptom I've ever heard of! I think I feel slightly warmer before AF comes.

Hi Terrissa, hope you're enjoying the holiday season.

 

[jlw617]

Fleur, Thats what I was thinking, I feel like my body has gotten back on track fairly quickly! I have anemia and other nutrient absorbency issues which is why I think I get the weird "freezing" symptom but its seriously one of my most noticeable symptoms, so though Im cold most of the time anyways lol, I kind of had a feeling it was coming soon when I couldnt get warm even with my heating blanket on! I hope you have a wonderful Christmas!

What traditions do you ladies have or plan on starting for Christmas, this go's for those without little ones as well!

We pile in the car with cocoa and Christmas music playing and look at christmas lights, I make christmas cookies with my girls every year, we do a jesse tree and an advent calendar throughout the month of december, my girls each get to pick out an ornament each year that they will get to take with them when they move out and we also do a dec 23rd box for the girls that includes new jammies, snacks and a movie to watch that night(since we open presents on christmas eve) . This year we are going to read the Christmas story in the Bible by candlelight which we have done before just not by candlelight and my girls will get electric candles and on christmas eve, everyone will write down a "gift for Jesus" which will be something we can do in our personal lives to be a better Christian and put them in a jar so we can read them on christmas day. Merry Christmas Ladies, Tell me what your traditions are or you will be starting!

 

[kdmalk]

Jamie- I love all of your traditions! So sweet! Your family is precious.

DH and I have decided to stay home this year. I love my family and we are all close and talk/text very regularly, but I am about "family"...ed out this year. That wasn't a sentence, but you know what I mean. With the miscarriage and me ovulating over Christmas, we just prefer to keep to ourselves this year. Not to mention that we are broke as soon as we start paying my student loans in January. Staying home saves money on gifts and gas! We are horrible people. Lol.

We did, however, buy sugar cookie mix and icing to make cookies together on Christmas eve. And we planned out some very low-key meals to have around Christmas when we will both be home for a few days. It will be so great to have that time together because dh works an ungodly number of hours each week (50-60).

Gripe moment: I must have looked at the wrong paycheck or hr messed something up because I thought I had enough vacation to take off Thursday and Friday and then on New Years day as well (I don't automatically get holidays off and paid. I have to take vacation for holidays, but because of that I earn more PTO per paycheck than most companies). Anyway... I used all the vacation and then some with the mmc, so I barely had enough to take the day off for thanksgiving. Well I obviously didn't have as much as I thought because I looked at my most recent paycheck and I only have 13.5 hours. I needed 24. Ugh. The point of this epic paragraph is that I am currently typing this from my desk, where I will be working late for an hour or two every single working night until New Years day in order to have the extra hours that equal time off for all three days. Ugh. Next year I will be hoarding vacation days like someone is trying to steal them from me. Lol. I do not want to be in this situation again.

Hope everyone else is having a better week leading up to Christmas.

 

[kdmalk]

Famous side note: I stopped off at the natural food store by my house on the way home from work tonight... And found some raspberry leaf tea! Loose! Like legit tea! Drinking it (in with some of my other good tea, a blueberry mango my brother brought me from Seattle) right now!

AND! I cooked a super healthy dinner for the first time in months. Fresh carrot salad (found the recipe online when studying french school food, which, by the way, is a SUPER interesting subject. I can't believe the crap we Americans feed our kids. It will be fantastic when they are all obese and have diabetes and can't work by the time they are 30... But that is a conversation for another day) anyway... Carrot salad (and grating carrots is a mess, for future reference), and wild salmon on a bed of bulgur for the main course. I am drinking the tea in an effort to convince myself I don't need dessert, with a bit of honey. Planning to have a smoothie for breakfast! Mmmmm!

At least my evening ended well. It has been so quiet with everyone gone. Hope the rest of you are doing well! I'll just keep talking to myself until someone else has something to say. Lol.

 

[KTJ006]

Hi ladies!!! Missed you guys! Took an unintentional break - things just got too crazy here and I was too tired at night to pop on plus I just needed to stop thinking about TTC for a bit. I hope everyone is doing well!

Jamie, sorry AF came but glad your cycle is back on track! Makes things easier to predict!

Kaylee - how awesome that you play the viola! I did piano and clarinet for several years. And I'm soooooo with you on how we (Americans) eat. It's disgusting. I've learned so much once I had kids because I started to care a lot more about what we eat and keep in the house.

Fleur - hope you're feeling better. Try not to stress about the timing. It's hard. I've been trying to focus on other things so I'm not obsessing about TTC. Toning and working out has been my focus lately. Keeps me sane and is a good outlet for me. Hugs to you.

We have some busy days ahead - Xmas play practice, Xmas play, parties and Xmas! Love this time of year!

 

[NDH]

We're home. Had a nice time in the end even though camping with kids is stressful and not relaxing at all lol. Plus their were at least three pregnant bellies camping near by and while sitting in the beach it suddenly dawned on me I was nearly 10 weeks pregnant last time I sat in that very spot *sigh* however AF has aready gone - only three days of bleeding which was usual for me before kids but not since (though in the last 3 years and 9 months that was only my 9th period, not counting lochia and the miscarriage do I don't have much to go on) so my mood has stabilized more with the hormone shift.

So much laundry to catch up on now, plus I still have to finish sewing Sara's Christmas dress and fixing Chloes Christmas shoes and a few more presents to wrap.

Jamie so sorry to hear AF got you too.

Kylee playing in a symphony would be awesome. Keep sharing your healthy meals - my healthy meal repertoire is slim and I'm too lazy to look for new ones often. Our diet the past few days has been shocking. We go camping with my parents and my mom plans the menu and its always pretty crap. She has so many allergies but instead of eating good food to compensate she pretty much eats a Standard American Diet without the common allergens. Though actually aside from flute and wheat and soy her main allergens are salicylates and amines so there is just a handful of fruits and vegetables she can actually eat... anyway I'm feeling so gross from all the bad food. We had planned on grilled chicken avocado salad for dinner but ended up rating nachos with my parents when we picked the kids up (we got home about midday and they watched the kids while we went to see a late afternoon movie. Possibly the second movie ive seen in theatre in three years lol.