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Dealing with azoospermia?

Hopeful :hugs: goodness what a roller coaster ride for you two! No advice to share but that is troubling the fact he had some at a previous sample and then none this time!! That is hard to process!
 
Hopeful 1, how devastating for you guys! And yes, a rollercoaster...I have no specific advice for you guys, except to not give up hope...since there were sperm there before, I hope you could find a male infertility specialist who can get to the root of your problem, and see if there is a chance to get some sperm from your DH at somepoint, and hopefully freeze them at that point! Maybe some of the UK ladies here know where to point you...big hugs!
 
One thought. Has anything changed between that sa and this one? Like vitamins or meds he was taking or maybe lifestyle change like he started working out/exercising more when he did not before?
 
Hi deafgal01 and rdleela, thank you for your reply. DH has been going to the gym more thinking that this would be beneficial so he has lost some weight and generally started to be a bit more aware of healthy eating cutting down on drinking etc. He is taking zita west vitamins but they haven't changed between the samples. In general just a lot more healthy than he used to be thinking it would help make a difference. As I said earlier we have a follow up appointment on Friday but might have to look at seeing a specialist in this field I have heard lots of good stories about Johnathan Ramsey in London. Can anyone comment on this?

I have seen some people have been prescribed tamoxifen or clomid can anyone tell me what this is and if anyone has seen any changes to the sperm since their partners have been on it?

Thanks ladies your support is much appreciated. :hug:
 
Hi Hopeful
Sorry to read your story - totally devastating for you. I take it you are nhs?
When the nhs found 3 sperm in my dhs ssr they got rid of them as they say their criteria to freeze is 100 minimum. You can imagine how devastated we were to be told " we've got 3 ... and binned them!!"

It was at that point we decided to go down the private route and found jonathan ramsay. He put dh on tamoxifen then changed it to anastrazole. To cut a long story short - jonathan ramsay is the reason we have our little girl. We obviously cant praise him highly enough!

Pm me if you want to ask anything hun x x
 
Hi Deb, that's amazing you have a little girl congratulations to you and your husband. I can understand your frustration that they just discarded the sperm they found, we are very frustrated that they didn't freeze the sperm that they found earlier this year. Tonight's job is to do more research on these drugs thanks very much for your advice. Will definitely be asking at our app on Friday and maybe have to look at getting an appointment with Jonathan.
Thanks
 
Hi Deb, that's amazing you have a little girl congratulations to you and your husband. I can understand your frustration that they just discarded the sperm they found, we are very frustrated that they didn't freeze the sperm that they found earlier this year. Tonight's job is to do more research on these drugs thanks very much for your advice. Will definitely be asking at our app on Friday and maybe have to look at getting an appointment with Jonathan.
Thanks

Really sorry to here your story. Wish you luck with your new plan :hugs: NHS are not very helpful or personalized with the treatment. They used the criteria one size fits all. X
 
Hi Hopeful. Sorry to hear about your rollercoaoster ride. Hope everything works out well for you. My DH was diagnised in May and since then we have gone for multiple test and currently seeing Dr Ramsay. DH is taking tamoxifen the follow up blood tests show his hormone levels have improved but still no sperms. We have another follow up appointment in October. Let me know if you want more details about contacting Dr Ramsay or any other info. Good luck.
 
Hi All, I just thought I will post about my HSG today. I am very nervous when it comes to hospital visits so was releaved when Dh came along for support. The Dr who was doing the x-ray seemed friendly at first but not sure what caused her to change her mood, she was really rude and rough with me. I went to Hammersmith for my test this morning and serously thinking of writing a written complaint. A little upset so just thought of sharing it
 
I had hsg done back in June, the procedure was fairly easy I thought but I did not have anyone rude like you did so maybe worth writing a complaint?
 
hi
Can someone explain lil bit about genetic or chromosomal deletion test ? whats the method and how much is it important ?
 
Hi Tulip, this link should explain it well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome_microdeletion

Basically what they do is , check to see if some known chromosome issues exist in your DH. we did that test for my husband and they did not give us any conclusive reason for his Azoo as in , in his case the reason for azoo is still unexplained. Hope this helps.
 
Hi rdleela! Sorry for SUCH a late reply! Not been on for a little while. The doctor said he has no idea what the cause of DH's azoo is. He's not had operations, but round about the time we started TTC he had VERY sore testicles and was told he had an infection. After multiple rounds of antibiotics, scans, anti-inflammatories, everything else under the sun, they'd given up on helping him and now he's just on pain relief - RUBBISH!
Until.. we went to see the urologist in Leeds about DH's azoo and he said after the mTESE he will refer him to a doctor who does 'Nerve stripping'. Apparently it is a newish and very effective way to relieve long term testicle pain, so maybe your DH could investigate? Really excited to hear how you're progressing btw :-)
XXX
 
Hello lovely ladies!
It's been quite a while since I've updated on here, finally have something to update you with (bloody waiting between appointments lol!).
Really great to hear so many people are progressing so well :-) Best of luck to you all!
So we went to Leeds on Monday to see the urologist. 9 weeks ago when we first saw us he sent DH for a FSH retest and the Y-chromosone test. They came back pretty much the same for FSH, 15.2 I think, and the Y-Chomosone one came back showing no genetic problem. He said that he would advise us to go for the mTESE, and that with DH's results the surgeon would give us a 50% chance of finding sperm which I was VERY surprised about! Obviously you don't know until you go in, but that was quite nice to hear. We will have to get DS backup as we've asked to go for a synchronised cycle, which was pretty obvious choice for us anyway!
SO! When we asked how long the waiting list was, he said he would expect the op to be by the end of the year. I said "Do you mean we'll have the operation by in a year's time?" and he said "No, hopefully by the end of 2013" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apparently, this is because the surgeon has only just come up to Leeds, and is the first person they've had to do mTESEs at the hospital (before they used to send people down to London), and as he's new there's next to no waiting list! I couldn't believe our luck! Apparently he's just getting his equipment checked over and then he'll be ready to start, so now we're waiting for a letter with his input. SO EXCITED! :happydance:
So that's the update from me! :-)

Hopeful - SSR isn't the same as an mTESE is it? The mTESEs are really thorough, so maybe this would be the next step? Fingers crossed for you lovely. XXXXX

My thoughts and prayers remain with you all :hugs:

XXXXXXXXXXXX
 
Hi rdleela! Sorry for SUCH a late reply! Not been on for a little while. The doctor said he has no idea what the cause of DH's azoo is. He's not had operations, but round about the time we started TTC he had VERY sore testicles and was told he had an infection. After multiple rounds of antibiotics, scans, anti-inflammatories, everything else under the sun, they'd given up on helping him and now he's just on pain relief - RUBBISH!
Until.. we went to see the urologist in Leeds about DH's azoo and he said after the mTESE he will refer him to a doctor who does 'Nerve stripping'. Apparently it is a newish and very effective way to relieve long term testicle pain, so maybe your DH could investigate? Really excited to hear how you're progressing btw :-)
XXX

Hey, Rainbow! Congrats on getting on the TESE wait list, and woo hoo for getting it done before the end of the year! We had the same luck with getting my hubby's VE surgery done, it was a newer surgeon in the northern part of province with a nice, short wait list! Thanks for the info on the nerve stripping! We will def look into that! And feel free to come over to my journal and stalk me! So far I'm growing 10 follies, going for my 2nd scan tmrw!

btw, here is some info on nerve stripping I just found: https://malereproduction.com/education-2/chronic-testicular-pain/ - we would totally go back to my hubby's VE surgeon to get this done, I'll be asking him about it - AFTER we get pregnant! lol
 
Thank you for the info rdleela :-) It would be the icing on the cake if DH can get rid of his stinky pains once we're pregnant! Will pop over to your journal now!
XXX
 
So I haven't been on here in what feels like forever. It makes me so happy to see all of the smiley faces as people move forward in the right direction on their journey. I pray that one day we will all be posting that we are pregnant with either our hubby's baby, or a DS that we are happy and at peace with.

As for me, I am 9 days past my 5 day transfer. As we began the process all 5 of our frozen embryos thawed. Then over the next 5 days only one embryo made it, it was a grade1, a perfect embryo, but we had nothing to refreeze. No embryos, no leftover sperm.

So here I am in the 2 week wait wondering if this actually worked. I took a test yesterday (wishing I never did) and it was negative. I know it was way too early, but I have been searching online and many women had a positive at this point. I'm going to try to keep myself from testing until Wednesday. My beta test is on Thursday. I have been doing the craziest things to make this little thing stick, and I am trying to stay hopeful. Eating pineapple core, wheat germ, no caffeine, no chocolate, no junk food, vitamins, etc.

The icing on the cake is one of my very close friends gave birth two days ago and we went to see the baby yesterday. I left there in tears wondering if I would EVER get to that point.

I thought I would get on and share with some woman who have an actual idea of how I feel, because no one else does. Everyone else seems to be pregnant or done having kids. Its SOOO frustrating. Anyway, I will keep you all posted. I will keep you all in my prayers. Been praying extra hard lately.

Wishing you all the best on you journey.
 
:hugs: oh gem! Reality is always a hard pill to swallow but try to hang in there as it could be late implantion causing the test to not show bfp yet!
 
Keeping everything crossed for you gem. I didnt get my bfp until otd - despite testing early x x
 
Thank you deafgal01 and Deb111. I really appreciate your kind words. I'm trying to stay positive. I keep getting cramps and I cant help but think its AF trying to make her way into town. But then I have also read that its a good sign.

Deb, do you remember having any symptoms during your 2ww? You made me feel so hopeful about my test on Thursday!!!
 

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