Dealing with azoospermia?

[tulip11]

hi
I heard that in women under 35 there is usually transfer of one embryo is it true ? and secondly at time of transfer do they know whether it turns out to be male or female ? plus if someone wants two embryos to be transferred so is it possible ? thirdly we will get out first ivf appointment letter in about 4 weeks almost one week is gone and according to gynecologist in first appointment they will discuss the things and you guys will get registered so roughly from the time of first appointment how much time approx it takes in uk as its our first free attempt giving by nhs till the end if its gonna to be successful and if we find some sperms ? I am sorry i asked too much but as i am getting closer to ivf process i am getting so excited somewhere feeling that may be we will be parents to beautiful child who knows and at same time getting nervous too plus tbh waiting for appointment letter is hard by its own way everytime i look at the way of postman when he will arrive i dont know whether this type of craziness is okay in our situation or not but nowadays i am going crazy ..

 

[gem10]

Well girls, I think I am out. I have cramps and pink spotting. Feeling devastated.

Mik, I hope you have a successful cycle, I will keep praying for you.

 

[tulip11]

Well girls, I think I am out. I have cramps and pink spotting. Feeling devastated.

Mik, I hope you have a successful cycle, I will keep praying for you.

I am so sorry hun who knows may be its IB ? dont get discourage just keep an eye on your spotting . xoxo

 

[deafgal01]

Gem- unless that spotting turns full flow, you're not out just yet! Keep your chin up.

 

[babadespls]

Hi Ladies,

I've been very quiet but following the board, nice to see so much happening

My husband and I went on a nice holiday, it was just what we needed, ate what we wanted, drank what we wanted and just had such a great time, never mentioned azoo once and just enjoyed every moment.

Now we are back to reality, back to eating well and living healthy, and have scheduled his SSR for the 19th of August, so I am very nervous and trying not to over think it or go google-mad on the statistics as that just make me so anxious. Just really really hoping for some positive results. This is my very last chance here of ever having a baby, as my hub is not for donor at all, so so much is riding on this.

Hey ladies. Hope you are doing well. May I ask what SSR is? I ve never geard of it.

S

Surgical sperm retrieval

 

[rdleela]

Awhhhhh Gem, I'm so sorry about the pink spotting; I've been there, it is totally devastating, and hard to remain hopeful. We'll stay hopeful for you! xoxo

 

[Rainbow123]

Oh Gem, I hope it's not AF. Sending you lots of love XXXXX

Babadespis - Since finding out about azoo, you guys have got moving pretty quickly, so maybe your DH just needs more time to come to terms with DS. We had to wait a year and a quarter to have our mTESE, so by that time DH had come round to DS, however when we were 8 months in, like you are now, he was still very against the idea. Hopefully you won't need to go down the DS route, but if the SSR isn't successful, he could still come round. Good luck for the 19th lovely! XXX

MBABY - The suspense is killing me! Hope your baby gender reveal goes well! X

 

[BumpHopes]

Hi everyone,

I havent posted or been on here for a while - needed a bit of a break- but I just wanted to wish everyone the best of luck i can see theres alot going on with everyone right now.

Quick question for you. Has anyone tried IUI with DS before IVF with DS? If so did it work? I have an option to try that first in December this year, just not sure cause there doesnt seem to be many succeses with IUI (or i might just be reading the wrong threads lol)

Thank you! x x

 

[deafgal01]

I've had 2 tries with IUI with DS and haven't had any luck so far. But that could be related to the count not being high enough or something, Idk. The first sample didn't have an ideal count that should be there when thawed, so we combined 2 for the 2nd IUI which was slightly better but still had no luck. I've been taking a break from the whole fertility trying since that time as it made me mentally insane and depressed. Might be different for you, it seems to vary from person to person.

 

[BumpHopes]

I've had 2 tries with IUI with DS and haven't had any luck so far. But that could be related to the count not being high enough or something, Idk. The first sample didn't have an ideal count that should be there when thawed, so we combined 2 for the 2nd IUI which was slightly better but still had no luck. I've been taking a break from the whole fertility trying since that time as it made me mentally insane and depressed. Might be different for you, it seems to vary from person to person.

Thank you for telling me your experience - i'm not sure what to do. sorry you've been having a difficult time. This is hell, i wouldn't wish it on anyone. I hope it gets easier x x

 

[MBABY2014]

Gem...nooooo...it seems very early to be getting your p? What day are you?

I def had some cramps and thought my p was coming..but just never did..
Is it increasing or was just a few spots?

Rainbow- reveal not till
Next Sunday..1 more week of suspense

 

[deafgal01]

Also, Gem keep in mind, as long that brown stuff stays brown or not a lot of it, i'd still stay you're in the game still.



Just venting- my last first day of af was 36 cycle days ago. I still have not started anything today yet. I've tried using sex and I've relaxed, and I've drank a little wine the past two days and still nada... My af cycles used to be like 30 days on the dot and predictable but this whole year (ever since I tried some drugs to help with the IUI treatment in Oct/Nov last year) it's been wacky ever since, like shorter or longer, and not predictable anymore. Idk what I'll do. I don't think there's any chance I could be pregnant at all- it's not possible with a diagnosis of azoospermia.

 

[gem10]

MBaby it started yesterday, 5dp5dt, today is day 6. It has remained just light pink all day, and up until an hour ago only when I wiped, but I just had to go buy pads, but still small amount of pink. But this is what happened last time, I spotted on day 7 and by day 9 it was AF.

I just dont get it. It was a perfect AA hatching embryo into embryo glue. Whats wrong with me, why cant I get pregnant?

 

[deafgal01]

Gem It's just not fair is it? We all have to go thru this diagnosis and then struggle to get our babies. It's not fair at all.

 

[gem10]

Its awful deafgal. My 16 year old niece just announced she is pregnant, my DHs brothers daughter. Seriously? His brother will be a grandpa before he is a father. Not that I would want to be pregnant as a teen, but it seems its so easy for everyone around me. I cant take it anymore!!

 

[deafgal01]

agreed gem!

 

[MBABY2014]

Uchhhh I wish I had an answer for you, I will be thinking of you

I guess, If this is not your cycle- you do have frosties waiting for you, so the process will be easier.

My only advice I guess would be to try 2 embryos this time and maybe some acupuncture??

 

[bubumaci]

Gem, I am sorry - but don't start losing hope yet!!
There is no rhyme or reason to it! If you think about how many fertilised eggs we transferred and only one resulted in a baby, it becomes just more and more apparent, what a miracle conception and pregnancy is! (Something I always knew and was in wonder of - but this journey has just made it that much more clear).
Sadly, as good as the embryos can look from the outside, we just don't know what is going on on the inside. And that doesn't mean there is something wrong with you!!!
Two cells (sperm + egg) join and more often than not, the fusing may result in abnormal chromosomes. What may look like normal development (perfect blast etc.) says nothing about the inside and why the embryo stops developing - but that is nature.
And there is nothing more painful, that struggling to get pregnant and seeing people left right and centre seemingly getting pregnant just by breathing. (My Father and his wife adopted two girls when I was 18 - they were 6 and 10 at the time. The younger one had her first child at 19 - not together with the Father - and her second at 23 - different Father, not together with him)... BIL + SIL were married August 2012 ... just a few months of trying and bang - pregnant - baby boy born November last year.

Unfortunately, for so many of us in this AI game, it is just a question of time, patience, and money. You just have to believe, that it will happen - or at some point (I guess I would even call it a breaking point) have to accept that it may not. To be very honest, I still can't believe that there is a little Pünktchen inside of me! After all the tries we went through, the outlook was so bleak and at the beginning of the year I had said - I will be 40 next year. If we are not pregnant by the end of the year, then we are giving up. It broke my heart to say it - but I didn't want our lives, our love to suffer as a result of this horrific diagnosis. And although becoming a Mother, or the idea of becoming a Mother was something that kept me going through a lot of crap (split family etc. etc.) for the bigger part of my life : having a family, together, one that I could influence and keep happy ... I also realised that I have an incredible man at my side, who is equally distraught by the blow that fate has dealt him, and at some point, we have to live in the here and now and look at our future. I honestly don't know how I would have gone about reconciling with giving up ... but I firmly believe you are far from that point and if you can, muster up the strength to keep positive, to keep believing, I think it makes a big difference, if you can keep up a positive mental attitude!

In the meantime, I am sending you huge hugs and hoping, that the pink you are seeing is just uterine irritation!!

 

[tulip11]

Today one lady which is mutual friend she told me that your hubby fsh is high which is 13.2 and there is no chance to find sperm and this truly disappointed me and on way back to home I cried a lot and for a while everything seemed so useless to me all the hopes which I had gone for a second. Now i am feeling so low and thinking if we can't find sperm then what will happen?

 

[bubumaci]

Sweetie - I would honestly tell you : cross that bridge if and when you should come to it. (I am an absolute master of worrying about things that I a) don't know if they will ever happen and b) way in advance, i.e. far too prematurely - so I probably should take my own advice). I can understand how very upset her utterance has made you... but this was not a statement given by a doctor / the clinic / person treating you and DH. Let them do their jobs, see what can be done.
The truth is - it may happen. It may happen that a SSR is performed and they cannot find anything useful (happened to my DH in the February try - we were just very lucky, that spring 2012 a miracle happened and they were able to freeze quite a bit of sperm from an ejaculation after 6 weeks of taking Tamoxifen ... other tries, they found just enough in the ejaculate to be able to do ICSI - this year in Feb, the TESE resulted in nothing and so they used some of the frozen samples). There is never a guarantee. There is never a guarantee that IUI, IVF, ICSI, IMSI will work. There is never a guarantee that healthy couples will be able to get pregnant naturally ...
Sadly, what should be the most natural thing in the world - reproduction - seems to be fraught with difficulties; for some, more than for others.

But my advice to you would be to a) be aware, that it may happen - it may be the case that they find nothing ... b) be aware, that they may find something and c) try not to worry about what you will do if the SSR does not work. You and DH will have some talking to do - together, together with your fertility specialist - and you will just have to cross that bridge if and when you come to it. But don't worry about unhatched eggs yet. You have no idea what is just around the corner and worrying will not do you (or DH) any good. This journey is such an unbelievably difficult one! But I firmly believe that being positive, trying to keep positive feelings, allowing yourself to be down, have a cry, let it out - but then also try to put it behind you and then look forward to the next steps is incredibly important so that you keep your sanity and don't lose yourself.