General chatter while we wait (and commentary on the "pull out method")

Gigs he’s basically going by if my app says to use protection or not, and if it does we use the diaphragm. It’s up to him whether he uses a condom as well on red days or requests I wear the diaphragm on green days. Today was a green day (aka good to go, not fertile) so he decided he was fine with going unprotected. I’m not actually trying to make myself O early enough for period BD to cause pregnancy, I was already taking this supplement starting this cycle because I had like no EWCM last cycle and I was concerned I wasn’t producing enough estrogen, since estrogen makes CM turn EW. The supplement isn’t supposed to produce an abnormally early ovulation (like so early it wouldn’t be a mature egg), it’s just supposed to regulate the cycle and prevent delayed ovulation. Since mine was a bit delayed previously it may push it forward but I really don’t think it would push it forward by 9+ days. It isn’t meant to immediately induce anything, it’s meant to be taken CD2-12 and it’s not supposed to be taken once you’re ovulating, so it doesn’t seem they expect an O earlier than CD13 or so. We won’t be BDing at least after tomorrow (if we even do tomorrow) because I’ll be at school and when I return it’ll be red days, so that would still be 6 days before O if I BD’d tomorrow and O’d on CD13.

ETA: whoops hit post too soon. Gigs I wonder if it could be a chemical since you’re having all the symptoms but negative tests.
 
That is so interesting. ESP with those disappearing lines. But our heads can def symptom spot lol

I mean he’d be good the sense that he’s educated and has a good job. I’ve only know him a little over a month via a dating app. Like we get on well, but he lacks the maturity needed to be a dad. I think he’ll get there in maybe 5 years, but he is still very much in the enjoying lack of responsibility phase of life. He made a comment about one of my fav wineries having too many children.... and I’m like LOL I’ve taken my kid to a winery at least three times that I can recall so gg. I don’t even know him well enough to say whether or not he’s good dad material. I think he has commitment issues cuz his parents divorced and his dad is on side number 3 or 3
 
Dobs oof I definitely wouldn’t recommend going after someone with commitment issues who isn’t mature enough for you. Especially if this is the guy you aren’t really attracted to? An education and a good job is great, but it doesn’t make up for all that. I’d rather be with someone who didn’t go to college and didn’t have a good job but was on the same maturity level as me and was super committed to me, good with kids, etc than an educated well off person who wasn’t. Just my 2 cents.
 
Oh this is just sex lol. The dating ship has sailed off without him. I’m looking for guys but until I find a suitor, a girl has needs :rofl:
 
It’s also just curiousness too. Like he has bent me all sorts of out of shape without trying. Like I’d be turned on during on phone calls and we were never explicit and rarely talked about sex. I wanted to sleep with him after every date. I would have slept with him already if any of our dates were in private lol. So I kind of just want to see what the fuss is about. And I’m ready for the last person I had sex with/experience with it to not be my ex and to not be trigger warning
assault
. And I spent a few weeks wondering if I just was to sleep with TB cuz of that but it’s not. Just a bonus.

I do wanna puke though I’m so nervous lol. I don’t remember how to DTD!!!!!
 
Ahhh Dobs! It's like riding a bike. I'm sure he'll be happy to put his (using old terms here) pickle in your jar that even if you don't feel your preform to your standards. He won't notice, I'm confident. That reminds me, what did ever happen with your ex? Did you get full custody? Oh and responsible dad material guy was from like 2 years ago so definitely not this same person. I'm not sure if that is even what the situation was. Or maybe that wasn't even you, lol.

Shae that's kind of neat your SO is so involved in your fertility. My husband's just like "tell me when it's safe" haha.

Shoot my text got erased so I don't know if I posted this on the last page or not....so sorry to keep talking about the testing business but it's done my head in! Yeah, dobs, those weird ass lines....they definitely look like obvious but faint BFP's, and then fade to what look like indents. They can still be seen but totes not pink and obvious, like you would expect on a dry positive test. I'd assume it's just my head playing tricks too, IF I didn't have the symptoms first, followed by the suspicion I was pregnant and then the weird tests, and not the other way around. I only tested because it just hit me that I was having some of my telltale pregnancy symptoms.

Yeah that's my thought too Shae, a chemical maybe? Maybe the frer is picking up like super low levels of hcg and that's why the cheapie is blank...?

Whatever the case, I'm doing one more frer in the morning just to see what it does. Part of me is tempted to have hubs pee on one just to see, lol. In either case I'm going to wait it out after that. AF should be here either tomorrow or the day after.
 
Lmfao may not have been me. I’ve been too much of a hot mess to date. I think though you may be thinking of my ex friend. He would have given me the world, but our friendship was so toxic. It got really heated one day, and he basically said “Fine maybe I’ll just f* [my bff] then” and I blocked him. Haven’t talked since. No regrets.

lol I keep telling myself guys are so easily pleased. I just have so my ptsd from my ex putting me down that it’s hard to not be in my head.

I have full custody. He has supervised visits once a week, but he doesn’t use them. Hasn’t seen A in nearly two years. He owes me like $10k in child support and all the child support people had to say was “file another motion” like y’all the ones garnishing his check and did the calculations to show his ass owes me. Why do I need to go to court again?! Eye roll. It’s dropped my credit score 30+ points. Still over 800 but not for long if b* doesn’t run me my money.

Omg lol at hubs peeing on the stick. I’m leaning chemical as well. Just idk I’m going through a didn’t want to say it first phase lol
 
Gigs I wouldn’t say he’s really any more involved than your DH, he’s basically just “does the app say it’s safe?” And if he’s feeling extra careful he might use some protection anyway.
I’d be tempted to have him POAS too lol. Hopefully you’ll have an official answer soon!

Dobs :rofl: I think I’ve had sex to music like once ever, I would definitely say you don’t need a playlist. What’s the drama?

AFM I hadn’t temped since 11DPO of last cycle because I forgot my thermometer at school and started spotting before I got back. I was home basically all week because of birthdays and snowstorms and finally got back to get my thermometer and... I’m still above coverline. I know I’m not pregnant because I took an extra test as a precaution on Thursday even though my cervix was wide open and I knew I wasn’t. Very odd. Hopefully it’ll drop back down to normal in the next few days.
 
I am super rusty on what the chart means, but could you still be adjusting post hormone removal?

About to test again...still not sure what to hope. Hubby has been so sweet. I told him I don't think I'm pregnant, or at least it's not viable, and he said, "Damn! I was looking forward to picking out names." He then went on to discuss how we could make it work with 2 bedrooms for 4 kids, how we could make one of the rooms downstairs into a legal bedroom...So I guess we might have a serious conversation in the near future about one more. What a terrifying thought, lol!!!
 
Dobs obviously we need details when all is said and done!
I totally made a mixed cd to have sex to early on in me and hubby's relationship. It was harder metal music, lol! Part of that was he had roommates and we wanted something kind of loud to drown us out.
I need a blushing emoji :blush:
 
Ok. Now it's almost blank. I can only just make out an indent, but then I can't lol. No weird pink line at all this time.

I'm going to chalk it up to a chemical and wait for my appetite to return now, lol.

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Gigs I totally could still be adjusting. It’s hard to know how long it will take and which things will be wonky for that period of time. I hadn’t dropped below coverline last cycle when AF started, only when I removed my IUD (which was CD1, so my CD2 temp was a big drop), so maybe normally it would take a few days to go down.

I totally blasted music in my dorm room after the first time my roommate got a text from a friend that they could hear loud :sex: from out in the hallway :rofl: my roommate texted me to let me know (she was obviously not there at the time) and recommended some loud music, so that was embarrassing. So for covering up noise, yes, I’ve done that.

That’s so nice that your hubby has been so sweet. Maybe TTC #4 is a real possibility after all! I definitely was seeing more on the previous tests so I agree with your assessment. Hoping your appetite returns quickly!
 
Aw Shae yeah I agree maybe it’s part of the adjustment period. Hopefully things are back to a predictable normal again soon.

Gigs love the convo about four. Immediate thought BUNK BEDS lol. They have some dope a** bunk beds these days. I’m glad that things have turned out ok for now, but seriously love that it has sparked up the convo for the potential future

Sorry I was just so tired. By the time he left and I finished washing my face it was nearly midnight when I normally sleep at 9. I’m so tired lol esp cuz A is back to 2am carry me to the pottying again :cry:

re DTD I’m a naughty girl. I made him bring protection but ultimately we didn’t use it. I will get tested but since I’m just sleeping with him then I know whose a** to kick if I get an sti. He insists he doesn’t have one. Tbh I’m more terrified of a pregnancy than an sti. It was ok. The fore play was off the chain cuz I don’t touch certain parts and he did so it was like 0 to 100. I was disappointed in his lack of volunteer to spend some quality time ahem you know where doing you know what esp after I did for 15 minutes. First guy who didn’t do it or even offer. So he lost a lot of cool points off the bat for that. It was good and I don’t regret it but it wasn’t great. He’s much more passive than I’m used to. And leading with the theme, I ahem did all the work until the end. He’s also sooooo quiet, idk if he was worried about my dogs and kid but like dude take a hint. If I’m loud, be loud with me. He did say later that he was trying really hard to not be done in 5m and he felt a lot of pressure to not finish quickly because it had been so long for me. So I mean wasn’t like the best but I’d be willing to do it again and start teaching him what I like as we get more comfortable.

Re the drama so I can NSA. I can do FWB. I can do dating. But you need to pick a lane and stay in it. We were done fooling around at just before ten. He didn’t leave until nearly 11. So what did we do? We talked. We cuddled. We held hands. He kissed me but not sex kisses just you’re adorable kisses. Got to the point where I was like dude I can do the sex but we need boundaries. You can’t sit here and be cute with me because I compartmentalize, so you can’t blur lines like that. Did not stop the cute. Lol. So we keep talking and he’s clearly re-inviting my hand for hand holding, and I’m ignoring him. I mentioned work and everything about him/his demeanor changed. And he vented hard about work and ended his rant with things have just been really hard and I don’t feel like myself/I missed two staff meetings because I’ve just checked out on everything for a week but you know that.... and I’m like oh dip he wasn’t blowing me off. So I told him lol but I also said like when you want to date someone you make time for them. And he’s like yeah for true. And I was like I meant what I said about being a burden. And he’s like you’re not. I love seeing your texts, but I feel bad because I’m not giving you the attention you deserve or I want to give you. I was gonna hit him with the hard truth of there’s only can and won’t but he looked so defeated. So I just dropped it. Kind of like how I dropped his hand :rofl: anyway so we talked more, and then he kissed me goodbye and we briefly considered a second round but it was late. He texted when he got home like I asked and then I said cool thx and thx for the wine (my fav varietal cuz he listens) and I’ll save it for next time. And he was like looking forward to it. By which time I had already fallen asleep. I’ll text him back tomorrow because it’s v day, and that’s just awkward.

So that’s the drama. Boy is being too nice. So I guess I’ll promote him to FWB? More on the NSA spectrum. But if we keep boinking and he keeps gazing lovingly in my eyes and holding my hand and being cutesy after we need a serious chat about boundaries.
 
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Oh and I did make a playlist but I shut it off when he got here cuz it was making me more nervous :rofl: I was on the phone too and he thought it was cute how close I am to my inner circle
 
SO and I forgot to make plans and all restaurants were booked, so we had a romantic date at Buffalo Wild Wings :rofl: but it was actually nice, I just managed to get slightly drunk off of a single tall hard cider :dohh:
 
Ooo love BWW! And glad it worked out that you got to see him! I know there was a bit of a worry with the covid stuff that you might not see him for vday/ his bday
 

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