General chatter while we wait (and commentary on the "pull out method")

FFS ladies having never had a Wondfo bfp please assure me this is an indent or evap. I did have squinters on fmu and evening yesterday, but I’ve had those shadows before. Cue temp dip and bleeding (not spotting but full on bleeding) I went out and got my pity wine. I’m not cramping at all but my bag is sore. Like it feels like I’ve been kicked in the bag/riding a horse all day and now it’s all aggravated. For no real reason I stopped mid pee and decided to do a wondfo before I rip into the wine and read my son’s proposed IEP because who didn’t need that today on top of breaking up two fist fights at work. Left it on the counter to go get A so definitely not read within the timeframe. It looks like it’s in the wrong spot and too thin and doesn’t look like it has color anyway. But I need second opinions before I start drinking hella wine lol.

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Dobby, I see what you are seeing but the line doesn't look right to me like the bottom doesn't meet the bottom on the test strip. I also don't notice any color. I'd chaulk up to a faulty test, so wine away (3 hours after you've posted).

I want to add that the pain in your "bag" can be related to hormones. I am prone to that pelvic pain when I have AF and spoke to my PT that specializes in pelvic floor. She mentioned it being called pelvic congestion and the hormonal changes that occur during your period can bring the pain on. I never had it until being pregnant with my 1st. It doesn't really affect me every cycle but is most prevalent when I've had to do lots of sitting including riding in a vehicle.

AFM, CD1 for me today. Since, I can't have a baby, I purchased a smoker and plan to cook Thanksgiving turkey with it lol
 
Lol Fluek it’s all good. I followed up on Premom. I generally like this community better, but for immediate answers I find Premom always has people on lol.

Oh interesting! May have to look into that. I keep hearing about pelvic floor exercises after babies. It was definitely odd lol never had that before that I recall.

Oh a smoker!! I love it! Have you had smoked turkey before?

I did pour my wine then immediately dumped it back in the bottle because I got a second sketch line. Used the same urine an hour later on a Wally and thought I saw something, but pretty sure that’s in my head. My temp dropped another tenth of a degree, still above cl barely but definitely in typical pre O range. Haven’t gotten up yet though to see what the flow looks like. I know whatever is happening can’t be healthy unless I’m just having faulty tests, so part of me just hopes it’s faulty tests vs something connected to the pain. Which is gone now as I expected.

ETA I did finally get up, and I’m very much still bleeding/looks like af. Same sketch line on Wondfo, Wally bfn.

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Dobby lol yes bnb is not fast like it used to be.

Apparently pregnancy can mess with your blood flow is the basic gist of it, having more than 1 baby increases risk of pelvic floor congestion. Elevating my hips help with blood flow and inflammation and seem to help most with that sort of pain. My PT said that other than getting up from sitting and moving more often that I could do heel raises, leg "kicks", and glute pumps to help muscle contract and improve circulation while sitting.

Omg yes! My BIL has fixed different smoked meats for holidays and they have been amazing! So tender, moist, and flavorful. I'm very excited to get it. I will definitely need to test it out before Thanksgiving. I usually use a turkey breast and cook in the slow cooker but smoked turkey is much better.

I would say with the other faint lines on tests, it's possible it was a chemical? In any case, I'm sorry about AF and dodgy lines :hugs:


AFM well my phone's microphone isn't working. I've tried many troubleshooting solutions at home. My phone is under warranty I think and I'll tell them that it hasn't been dropped. I mean it has but nothing damaging. I use a tempered glass screen protector and a hard case to protect my phone as I'm very clumsy.

I can only have people hear me on phone calls if I'm using speakerphone or Bluetooth. Very annoying but certainly worse things.
 
Apologies in advance for my poor response, I’ve been reading along and keep procrastinating responding.

Dobs :hugs: sorry about the BFN and mixed feelings. Please be careful with that wine, I know you’ve had some trouble regulating intake in that area and I just want you to be safe. I actually see a line on both the wondfo and Wally tests but very light, I would say it’s possible you had a chemical, but hard to know.

Flueks that smoker sounds interesting, let us know how it goes for thanksgiving turkey! I have work on thanksgiving but luckily only 7-3 so SO and I are planning to have a little thanksgiving together. We haven’t planned it out yet but I imagine he’ll end up prepping whatever bird we use (turkeys are big for two people but we’ll see) and putting it in the oven far before I get home.

Pretty did you say when you were planning on doing the sneakpeek test? I know you were announcing gender separately from the pregnancy announcement but that’s all I remember.

AFM, AF is pretty much over at this point. It wasn’t a terribly heavy period despite being 2 weeks delayed, but I did feel more emotionally labile and felt like crying at work for no reason on CD1. I decided to do all my supplements as soon as AF started, so I’m taking vitamin D3, soy isoflavones, and my herbal tincture that includes vitex and other herbs for menstrual health. We’ll see how long it takes me to ovulate this time :rofl:
 
Shae will do! Sorry you have to work. Working holidays was one of my least favorite things being in health-care.

You could buy just a turkey breast much smaller than a whole turkey?

Hope the supplements and herbs help you O earlier this cycle. Vitex really helped me when mine were long and irregular after stopping bcp.
 
Shae I feel that. I've honestly kept wine out of the house for a while because I knew I was not in the headspace to make good choices. I thought i was. But I'm three glasses deep so clearly not.

Sorry about working the holiday, but i kinda love that tbh. Especially when you get an morning shift. We usually eat around 2/3. So you get your overtime pay but then still get to go home and be with your fam for the holiday. Win win. Is the roomie not hanging around for T-day? That'd be a really sweet little dinner for the two of you! First holiday together in your own place. Love it. Got no suggestions on turkey for two. But yes smaller turkey? And leftovers for days?

FXed those supplements help regulate your O! I'm sorry that you're feeling a bit down today though :(

Fluek yessss smoked meats in general yum. I'm so thrilled for you. Definitely let us know how the cooking adventures go. That's a bummer about the phone, but I'm glad it's still under warranty. Still a hassle to take it in and get it fixed though.

Bright side. The last two periods have been like 99% crampless. I thought about getting a beta yesterday to know for sure, but I don't want to know. Knowing will make me feel worse not better. So as far as I'm concerned, faulty tests. I was slightly worried about ectopic or a cyst with that stabbing pain, but whatever that was has subsided and resolve no. Likely just an annoying cyst.

Anyway. Work was long. Same old, same old.
 
shae - I think I'm gonna try to do it Sunday night.

Sorry for another selfish post. Will definitely comment tomorrow.

Finally got an electrician to come to the house today. It was mainly a diagnostic visit and he'll be back on Friday to hopefully fix everything. Not even gonna attempt to tear up the damaged floorboards til we have some proper light. Made my genetic screening appt for November 8th. That's all for now. I need sleeeeeep.
 
Ugh. No more wine for a while. Couldn’t temp because I peed four times last night and couldn’t sleep until 1. Period is down to brown and pink spotting. Would have been nice to have a temp knock away the what if questions

pretty so sorry there’s still so much to do about the basement but glad the electrician came out. So excited for your gender announcement when the time comes <3 thinking pink over here
 
Glad you got an electrician out, Pretty :) we had a lot of electrical work done when we bought our house. We replaced the whole fuse box, and had various things tidied up. Was well worth the peace of mind if nothing else. Glad you realized and saved the freezer! We buy meat in bulk and freeze it- I get worried about it when we have bad weather etc... Like legit worried. Replacing it would be both super expensive and a real pain in the butt. Sorry for all the drama on the day of the party :( awful re: FIL's seizure. My family member "not doing better" is an alcoholic (maybe more, who knows?) It's awful. I'm excited for the sneak peek and to hear the name conversation unfold! I like the nameberry "other names you might like" link. I'll have to look at what they link to from Emma.

Flueky- let us know what the smoker is like to use! Sounds awesome, yet well above my abilities. I hope that you find an answer about the palpitations (or ideally they just go away). I had that exact problem with an old phone. Happened out of nowhere and couldn't be fixed :( I tried a factory reset to no avail, and just ended up getting a new phone.

Big, huge hugs, Dobby. You've been on a real rollercoaster the last couple of months. if you want to have another, you will. Re: your guy comment- Just be honest with yourself about men, and what you want out of it all. If you're happy, do you. If not, regroup :) I have had that pain too (supposing I know what you mean by bag). I don't recall having had it before having my LO, so Fleukys comments make sense. I get like a pulling feeling that even goes through my stomach, and up and down my thighs, too. Totally bizarre... But apparently normal. I haven't watched Teen Mom yet, but I can imagine Cheyenne's sprinkle being massive :lol: maybe MTV paid for it? And I agree that Gary and his wife put on a front for the camera. But also... Amber is awful. The crying video she sent her daughter was so beyond manipulative :(

I am feeling you on the gas front. We're paying double what we were paying in say 2019 (can't really count 2020 fairly as everything was so messed up!). Just ridiculous. And it is starting the genuinely impact our lives. Not just the gas- everything is going up. We went to our favorite restaurant recently, and the portions were noticeably really shrunk down. Not a huge deal, but it gets depressing when it is literally everything. On the gas- this is an intentional policy. They're driving up the price of traditional energy, so that "green" alternatives seem more competitive. Totally immoral, as of course, while that's no big deal for the super rich, it is a huge deal for the working class. There will be a lot of people really struggling to pay for heat this winter. :-( we need better alternatives before we can successfully move away from what we have that is cheap and reliable.

Monroe- welcome! Hope that you get your bfp soon. :)

Shae- good luck regulating this month! And I hope it is ok working Thanksgiving. We've found it is more enjoyable sometimes to have off peak time off, anyway. We try to go out for lunch on like a Tuesday if we go, as we're antisocial and it is so much nicer at off peak times :lol: I always found new years disappointing as it feel like you're "meant" to be having fun. It sounds perfect that you'll have a little Thanksgiving for two later that day.

Thank you for all the opk help! It went clearly negative the next day, so seems like 4ish days of positive is my normal. I did think that it has been quite a while since I felt such clear ovulation pain. So maybe things weren't quite right, which was my issue...? We will see. Booked in to see the fertility specialist again next week. Will see what he says about egg quality.
 
Nameberry suggests:
Ella
Emily
Sophia
Anna
Lily
Isabella
Ava
Chloe
Caroline
Alice
Olivia
Charlotte
Grace
Elizabeth
Claire
Amelia
Lucy
Jane
Clara
Rose

Lots of beautiful names! I love Elizabeth. ❤️

And boring final note: Pretty, is it concrete underneath your flooring? May be worth pulling up whatever is wet (if you know you'll have to replace anyway). Just thinking about containing the damage, and how id dry it out if I knew the flooring was dead, anyway. Obviously different if there's a chance the flooring can be saved. Good luck!
 
Dobby - So, I think I heard on the news that gas is currently the highest it's ever been. In general though, it is usually kinda high. At most stations, it tends to drop by a few-ish cents as the day progresses. So, I almost always fill up after 5pm. I just filled 7/8 of my tank a couple days ago and it cost me $57USD.
I think the delivery time for SneakPeek is about 2 weeks, give or take. Dunno if it may take a little longer though cuz it has to cross the border.
Sorry for all those weird tests and then finally getting AF. I know how annoying it can be to be both hoping for and dreading a BFP. But we all know that you'll get your 2nd one day. :)

Flueky - That sucks about your phone. Have you already contacted the phone company about a fix or replacement?
Smoked turkey sounds interesting. Hope it turns out well. :)

shae - FX it's a fairly quiet Thanksgiving work day for you. And that sounds nice that you and SO can have an intimate dinner. Are you planning on seeing your family on a different day that weekend?

Winter - SO asked the electrician how much it would be to replace the fuse box with a breaker panel and apparently it would only be $1600; a lot less than he thought, so I think we'd like to do that sooner rather than later. We've also discussed getting the house re-wired room by room. We want to get the kitchen redone ASAP, so might as well get the wiring done it that room first.
My niece is named Ella, so that's out. Not that the name was ever in my consideration. I used to think I'd name my 2nd daughter Isabella, but not really a fan anymore. Otherwise, the least objectionable name in that list is probably Charlotte. But I'll have to see what SO thinks. Thanks for the suggestions though.
Ya, it's concrete underneath. Definitely gonna be pulling up the warped floorboards and then maybe just put down one of those carpets that you're have at a front door for the time being.

AFM, carpal tunnel seems to be starting. Usually at night. And literally as I'm typing this. lol. Otherwise things seem to be progressing well still.
Since it's past midnight, Matthew is now officially 2. How time flies. We're planning to have Chinese for dinner today and I think I'll try to tell my mom today too.
Also, just found out that my sister is engaged to her BF of 10 years. We're not super close, and I dunno what she's thinking of doing in terms of a big or small wedding or just a court house visit, but I hope to at least be invited.
 
Love you all. Super sick :cry: not covid and no fever which is good but also means dragging myself to work with no energy
 
I vaguely remember us having a similar thought about the fuse box. It was less expensive than we'd expected, so we went ahead. It was a good decision for peace of mind! I don't remember what else we did- just things like wire in smoke detectors and fix odds and ends. Sounds like you have it all in hand, and the whole area will be new and improved in no time. What a nightmare. Blah.

Happy Birthday to Matthew! Time really does fly. So wild to think how much kids change in such a short space of time. Hope he had a great day! And I hope your sister will invite you, too. Do you know what prompted the engagement after such a long time?

Sorry, Dobby. Our Pediatrician said that they're seeing double the usual rate of viruses at the moment. He said when everyone was social distancing etc, they saw less than half, and now it's the opposite. So you're probably in the thick of it at work, daycare etc :( sorry to hear it. Is it cold and flu type stuff? If you can eat, order some good take out tomorrow and take it easy. Feel better!
 
Dobby - Sorry you're not feeling well. If you are sick though, shouldn't you not be going to work?

Winter - Ya, I think he had a good day. We went for ice cream after dinner and he got to have his own cup. lol
Dunno why they waited so long. They're not the most conventional couple. They already have 2 kids and live together, so they don't really "need" to at this point, but whatever. She told me today, even though I already saw it on FB. She said they were planning for a summer wedding and she'd keep me posted. Not gonna hold my breath to be in the bridal party, but knowing to expect any invite is nice. Always a wedding guest, never a bridesmaid. lol

So, I told my mom today and she was really excited. Cuz we'd gotten Chinese, I took a small piece of paper and wrote that she was gonna be a grandma again in May on it and folded it up and stuck it in a fortune cookie. lol. Now just anxiously awaiting the 31st and need to decide when to tell my work.
 
Thanks ladies! I feel much better now actually. Still stuck in head a bit but not nearly as miserable. Been getting ten hours of sleep the last few nights. Ty NyQuil

Winter I do know she’s got influencer status/MTV money/I’m sure MTV helped. That’s awesome that you got your surge! Hope the conversation about egg quality goes well.

Pretty every time I think of Isabella I think of Aro from Twilight being all creeper on Bella lol. My favorite student this year is Charlotte. Pretty I love that fortune cookie announcement! How sweet! And can’t wait for that sneak peek, hopefully it moved through transit and their labs quickly. Sending pinky vibes.

Re working sick LOL I live in the us. They don’t care about us. It’s also a hassle to make sub plans. So no fever, no calling out. We also we didn’t two subs yesterday. Two preps were canceled. I would have made three. I’m feeling much better though, and was able to rally for a theme day for the kids. I also had negative covid tests and I haven’t had any covid exposure, so since I’m vaccinated I’m cleared to be at work.

re babies and boys depends what time of my cycle you ask. If I’m ovulating/fertile, I want them. If I’m not, I have no desire for a second kid or man.

Re weddings I’ve only been invited to one. My cousin. That I hate. Going to appease my mom. My other three cousins are bridesmaids, obviously I wasn’t asked. But she had the nerve to ask to borrow my son for something because he’s so handsome and photogenic and she loves his curls in photos. And my last guy friend I’m secretly in love with marries some blah girl today. I’m not invited. Probably because every knows I’d pull a Rachel.

In other news. My bbt is doing weird things. I even had the fan on the last two days because I didn’t care about my temp. Posted about it in Premom. Getting increasingly worried maybe I do have a cyst. If it’s still up on Monday, I’ll email the doctor. ETA Dr. Google is freaking me out with the e word, and I keep coming across it this cycle every time I Google. Booked a phone appointment to hopefully get a beta done at the hospital later. ETA again beta was zero so that’s relieving in a way

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Pretty so sorry carpal tunnel already starting up. Stinks when the painful pregnancy symptoms start early.

Happy belated birthday to Matthew and Taylor for announcing tomorrow :)


Dobby glad you are feeling better. Also, I'm glad it's not an E but wish you had answers. I wasn't temping when I had an ovarian cycst in high school but I'm sure it could probably alter Temps due to hormones.

Winter hope you are well.

Shae hope you are well.


AFM contacted Samsung and hoping to get it repaired Thursday. It's under warranty so repair will be free but part won't be available until Tuesday, we'll as long as nothing goes wrong.

Feeling less unhappy about SILs pregnancy. Gave her my maternity clothes since I won't need them any longer and hadn't gotten around to donating or selling.

Took girls trick or treating yesterday. It rained but not a downpour so it went okay. I mean okay as it can be with 3 kids 4 and under without strollers in the rain lol. V was Elsa, S Anna and E was Olaf from frozen 2
 
Flueky that was so nice of you! I’m sure she really appreciated it. I’m glad you’re feeling more excited about her pregnancy. That’s great that the repair is free. Sorry you had to wait for the part. Lol I love your positivity. That’s nice y’all did it on Saturday! I’m not amused about doing it tonight on a work night when I have a long meeting after work.

Pretty hoping the ct feels better today and yay for announcing today!

AFM temp is still up. And my fmu opk is 0.56, and fmu usually doesn’t get that high until CD 11. Annoyed. I am getting a bit in the mood though so regardless of what my bizarre temps and lh are doing, it does look like my body is still planning to O. My shortest natural cycle was 23 days (o must have been cd 11), so it’s not out of the realm of possibility to O early. Although I did like the whole CD 13 and CD 14 of the last two cycles.
 
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We did it Friday afternoon. I got an earlier start with work so we could leave early. It was 4 to 6 Friday, time zones probably caused a bit on confusion. I actually preferred it on a weeknight since DH doesn't get off until 6 p.m. on weekends. I get help getting them ready and it's hard to stay out late with an infant as they go to bed earlier. However I can definitely see why a school night isn't optimal for you. There were lots of different happenings through weekday and the weekend. We opted for the one Friday as it's a large event and our work schedules. On a funny note, people were seriously calling 911 to find out when people were trick or treating or if it was canceled due to rain.....SMH.

Oh bit of fun last night. DH and I were laying in bed and heard a thud. He thought it was Vs rainbow I'd left on the porch to clean the bottom out later. So he went to check. Nope a big fat raccoon took our trash lid off. I may have only closed one end yesterday afternoon. He got his gun and we both went out. The coon was scared off without being aggressive and we put part of a cinder block on top to maybe keep him/her out of the trash bin and making a nasty mess to clean up. It worked but I know coons are pretty smart and sneaky.
 
Wait calling 911?!?!?! Omg our police department would lose it. Glad you found an event that worked for your schedules!

I wouldn’t mind it do much if it didn’t mean sleeping over at my mom’s.

Daaaang raccoons are scary. Glad it left without putting up a fight. Hopefully stays away.
 

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