Inconceivable and beyond :-)

[2have4kids]

It's the same in Canada Crystal, most employed ppl have private insurance through their companies for a small monthly fee. It's about $35 for me to cover my family. So my DH and I then get $800 massage/acupuncure perimedical, extra for dentist, but the basic universal covers all Canadians and in my province there's no fee for that. It used to be $40/mnth but they scrapped that. So broken bones, deliveries, and emerg care are always covered, private care offers extra perks ie drugs from ivf (which is ~$6000 each time). I love the system. And so some call this socialism however I don't pay more than 22% tax on a salary between $70-100k. So that term is more fear mongering than accurate.

Problem is the Conservatives have been mismanaging it and dumbing our healthcare system down in hopes to get people so upset & desperate they're begging for US style private care only. They drove our long standing knee/hip replacement hospital into bankruptcy (I mean how does that happen?) so now people have to wait for years after diagnosis for treatment. So we voted the crooks out, and lefty NDP in and money is now getting put back into where it should be. Unfortunately they did much damage while in office and it'll take years to rebuild many similar institutions that they ripped apart under poor leadership/management.

 

[LLbean]

Yes we will definitely do the harmony test no matter what. That's a no brainer. And no, no announcement until after all is cleared.

 

[Vonn]

LLbean--What?!?! You almost snuck a bfp past us! I'm so sorry little bean didn't stick. That's gotta hurt a little. Yeah, if I would have ever gotten pregnant I definitely would have had the harmony test.

So, people do the harmony test when using donor eggs?

 

[LLbean]

well I did blood work and it was very very low to begin with so... second test dropped so yeah. It wasn't meant to be but hey something is still working it seems ;-)

 

[crystal443]

Harmony was still advised even though late in the game for us with donor eggs, we declined because we were almost at our 20 week scan by that point but did want to have it at week 10

 

[2have4kids]

LLbean--What?!?! You almost snuck a bfp past us! I'm so sorry little bean didn't stick. That's gotta hurt a little. Yeah, if I would have ever gotten pregnant I definitely would have had the harmony test.

So, people do the harmony test when using donor eggs?

In 2012 I mmc from my first set of fresh ivf donor egg twin embryos from Reprofit. It was Turners Syndrome, they claimed it's mainly a sperm thing but who knowsDH has always had great reports so it was a surprise to see that failure. Even if they hadn't said it was dpeem related I'll now slways get tested. Some people actually carry Turners Syndrome babies yo live birth, they always pass within the first year, and the majority before birth but it's not worth the heart ache in not knowing snd then having zero options.

In Canada nauchal translucency 12 week testing is mandatory for all pregnant women (looking for signs of Downs in a round about way). I prefer NOT to go through this slow process. Harmony is comprehensive @ 10 weeks woth a 2 week wait time and with absolute certainty without the speculation that bloods + a nauchal translucency test gives you. Whereas nauchal translucency is based on probabilities that tend to get loads if women very worried (I'd be right in there stressing out!): 1/125 or 1/500 you have a Downs Syndrome baby, my gf here had 1/72 at 38 years and completely freaked out by that prognosis. They did the Harmony test after their doctor set them up with 'genetic counselling' @ 14 weeks and thankfully it came out clear. So you wait for the test results to come back at 16 weeks but what can a person do at that point if there is a problem? It gives very few options. So I'll just get my confirmation & reassurance @ 10/12 weeks.

 

[Pinkie3]

2have, beautiful second line. Can't wait to see your beta number. Hope you are feeling ok?

LL, so sorry to hear about the chemical. Hugs x

 

[2have4kids]

Hi Pinkie, are you feeling any different yet? Bloating, ms? Maybe in a few more weeks?
Well the frer was still darker today however my cheapie tests that say they detect 15ml/ didn't even register. I did go to the GP & get beta requisitions so I'll go tomorrow. Also getting my hemoglobin tested. I was too low to donate blood so I'm taking 3 different low-dose, easy to digest iron supplements. The last thing I want is to not have enough oxygen to feed babies, anemia/low iron is linked to ADD/ADHD and learning /cognitive disabilities

 

[crystal443]

Ha I should have checked here first lol! Glad your getting bloods done.. Cheapies were a pain, I didn't get a line for a few days either and then it was very light while the FRERS were super dark.

 

[LLbean]

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[2have4kids]

Seeing that they don't freeze eggs in most european clinics and the rates of succss to live birth here in our clinic that deals with frozen eggs is less than 30% I'd make those into embryos and freeze them. If you froze 12 eggs you'd be lucky to get 3 to thaw and survive, they're too fragile to freeze. If you fertilized 12 eggs to embies and waited to 5 day you could get 3-10 decent embryos. Garnet had 10 perfect embies after her cycle. But fresh is best so if they reduce the cost of doing an fet I'd do it but if you can afford to do fresh...

 

[LLbean]

No

 

[Vonn]

Llbean--how long do you have to wait after your mc? My clinic says about 5% lower success rate with frozen eggs; Is it possible for DH to get the clinic a sample & fertilize them, then do a frozen embie transfer? I can't recall where you are going.

 

[2have4kids]

Llbean--how long do you have to wait after your mc? My clinic says about 5% lower success rate with frozen eggs; Is it possible for DH to get the clinic a sample & fertilize them, then do a frozen embie transfer? I can't recall where you are going.

Vonn which clinic is that? Do they state their live birth rates using frozen eggs?

Llb I think your chances are really good with an fet and I'm v excited for you. It's been a long time coming and it seems like yor clinic moves fast. Hopefully your chemical clears quickly. Mine did a few years ago within weeks I was back to normal cycles.
How many would you put back? You don't have immune issues do you?

 

[LLbean]

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[LLbean]

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[2have4kids]

It sounds like you've got a solid plan liz, wishing you a speedy ride to bfp!! xx

 

[Vonn]

llbean--very exciting! I hope that hcg is down to zero soon so you can move forward.

AFM--I just found out that donor #2 also tested positive as carrier for some genetic disease. Back to the list AGAIN. Grrrrrrrrrr.......... I didn't even cry this time, just felt a sense of resignation. Aww, c'mon! We're determined to move forward, though; will look at the list again tonight and select donor #3. Third time's a charm, right?!?!

 

[Butterfly67]

Wow LL I didn't realise you were def doing DE but sorry things are held up. Hope they get you a plan soon so that you can get your bfp on track

Vonn, whatever donor you end up with, you will have a lot of influence on its development and the child will be amazing and be yours. I know I was a bit unhappy about the complete lack of info on my donor but in hindsight once you have that child it really doesn't matter xx

 

[LLbean]

We will see BF