is/was your LO a really bad sleeper? support and advise thread!

[AngelUK]

I am like that too. I am a weak willed wuss lol. I don't think I could do CC for that and a number of other reasons but I soo wish I could get to grips with Dom's constant waking one way or another. Sigh. Good luck to you though if you are going to try it. The ladies on here have had really great results so that does seem very hopeful

 

[AngelUK]

Thanks firefly We tried Pampers baby dry and they leaked too Which is why I then stuck to Little Angels as they are so much cheaper. But now lets see how the active ones do.
As for sleeping at different times, I would consider that but Dom goes really cranky come 7- 7:30. He actually wants to sleep. When he wakes every 20 minutes he isn't wide awake, he cries with his eyes closed and usually drops off again as soon as we insert the dummy or lift him into our arms. If we don't react he goes "into one" and then he is wide awake and hysterical lol. If he were awake and wanting to be about he would act differently, he would try smiling at us and chattering etc. So I don't think this is it. But thank you for the idea and for asking your friend in that class, that is very sweet of you

 

[Lulu1982]

Urgh ... Horrendous bedtime ... Over an hour and a half in and she's still going, she's been in such a state this evening I was sure there must be something wrong so lifted her out, winded her, checked her nappy, gave her gums a rub and robbed her tummy ... She talked to the door so presume she's fine and just trying to fit me again. The screaming is getting t me tonight, I'm tired and hungry and need a bath and I feel like it shouldn't be taking this long to get results. The plus side is that for the past 5 nights, the most she has been up in the night is once and she has slept throug twice butmim finding it hard to be positive this evening.

Hope your LO's are all sleeping for a minute!xx

 

[chocolala]

I'm getting thoroughly pissed off! I've been trying for an hour to get lily to sleep and she's fought it every step despite being tired.

I'm truly sick of the fighting. I'm so tired right now due to her late nights, early mornings and frequent wakings. She just will not sleep!

And I'm hungry!

On the plus side I've finally heard back from milk matters with a recommendation of an osteopath.

 

[Lulu1982]

I'm getting thoroughly pissed off! I've been trying for an hour to get lily to sleep and she's fought it every step despite being tired.

I'm truly sick of the fighting. I'm so tired right now due to her late nights, early mornings and frequent wakings. She just will not sleep!

And I'm hungry!

On the plus side I've finally heard back from milk matters with a recommendation of an osteopath.

Ava is so tired she keeps drifting off for literally seconds which seems to build up her stamina so she can scream louder and longer.

Hope you get a result soon ... We've just hit the 2 hour mark xx

 

[kosh]

Mrs Hedgehog - I WISH I could work out what is different on the days LO sleeps better. I've been trying for months to figure it out but I just can't see any pattern at all. I suppose there are just an infinite number of minute variables which you just can't control for.

Oddly, I've totally cracked the daytime. I have worked out how much awake time he needs before each nap to be able to put him down without fuss, and can pretty reliably predict his nap times and length now (which is a huge improvement and a massive bonus). It just all goes to pot as soon as evening comes and I cannot work out why for the life of me

He's definitely an enigma.

what's your LO awake time lisa?

 

[firefly15]

chocolala and lulu. We had a rubbish bedtime too - DH had to put him to sleep in the end as my patience had worn thin

Angel - forgot to add before that for the pampers baby dry we use one size bigger at night than we do during the day. If we use the day size then it leaks but a size up works really well. I suspected that you probably had examined every possibility with the bedtime/sleep thing but it was worth a shot if it makes you feel any better my LO was the same with needing immediate attention to avoid meltdown/wide awake problems at that age but around 6 months it changed to him being able settle himself for those little wakings more and more. It's still not perfect but on the whole we now don't get any 30/45 minute wake ups like we used to after he goes to bed for the first few hours.

 

[kosh]

I'm getting thoroughly pissed off! I've been trying for an hour to get lily to sleep and she's fought it every step despite being tired.

I'm truly sick of the fighting. I'm so tired right now due to her late nights, early mornings and frequent wakings. She just will not sleep!

And I'm hungry!

On the plus side I've finally heard back from milk matters with a recommendation of an osteopath.

that's great you finally got a recommendation!
hang in there!!!

 

[chocolala]

A question for those of us that bf.

Do you find that your monthly cycles affect your baby sleep wise?

My periods are just starting up again. I've just started, so I'm wondering if that could be the cause of this serious sleep fighting that lily is doing. I'm probably grasping at straws though.

 

[firefly15]

A question for those of us that bf.

Do you find that your monthly cycles affect your baby sleep wise?

My periods are just starting up again. I've just started, so I'm wondering if that could be the cause of this serious sleep fighting that lily is doing. I'm probably grasping at straws though.

I still haven't had a period so for us it's not that, but it doesn't sound that far fetched to me. I know that lots of people on the bf forum have said that it affects their LOs.

 

[kosh]

Our baby boy doesn't sleep much full stop. Health visitor today told me that he probably wont sleep at all in the day and seems to only need 6-8 hours full stop, which is apparently because I don't need much sleep... that doesn't mean to say I'm not exhausted being a new mummy.

Added to him not wanting/needing sleep he wont lay down flat. He likes his chair/bouncer but when we lay him flat he wakes after 20 mins max. Apparently he has baby reflux.

I just long for a night where my husband and I don't have to take shifts and we can get 4 hours together to sleep in bed.

I'd say your baby is waaaay too young to make any 'diagnosis' re. sleep/feeding problems. My LO was the same at that age re. not wanting to lay flat and we too thought he had reflux. I would spend the night propped up with pillows holding him upright against my shoulder. That was the only way he'd sleep. Someone said he was doing it out of habit etc etc but I kept holding him (I would always try laying him down first), until one day, I put him down and he was fine. I'd done nothing different. The way I see it now, is that he had not been ready.
Your LO is only 2weeeks,be patient!

 

[chocolala]

I'm getting thoroughly pissed off! I've been trying for an hour to get lily to sleep and she's fought it every step despite being tired.

I'm truly sick of the fighting. I'm so tired right now due to her late nights, early mornings and frequent wakings. She just will not sleep!

And I'm hungry!

On the plus side I've finally heard back from milk matters with a recommendation of an osteopath.

that's great you finally got a recommendation!
hang in there!!!

I'm ringing them first thing! Lol.

 

[kosh]

A question for those of us that bf.

Do you find that your monthly cycles affect your baby sleep wise?

My periods are just starting up again. I've just started, so I'm wondering if that could be the cause of this serious sleep fighting that lily is doing. I'm probably grasping at straws though.

don't see why not. I had the feeling my supply goes down before my period.
also, I am sure there must be hormonal changes which might affect it all?

 

[lisa1980]

Chocolala, Firefly, Lulu - I thoroughly sympathise. My patience becomes practically non-existent during the marathon bedtime routine and evening wakings. I feel terribly guilty about it as i'm sure LO picks up on it even though I really try not to let it show. It doesn't help that he will resolutely refuse to let OH settle him, so it usually comes down to me alone. TBH it's this as much as the sleep deprivation that has convinced me to try training...I'm not being the mother I want to be, within my head as much as anything.

Kosh - He can usually be awake for around 2.5-3hrs in the morning before his first nap (usually 1.5-2hr nap), then 3-3.5hrs before his second (often 1-1.5hr nap), then usually around 4 hours before his bedtime, give or take half an hour. He sticks to this pretty well and as long as I time it correctly he'll go down for naps like an angel and wake happy. It's after bedtime that the craziness begins for some reason.

I'm on the minipill so no periods for me

Havingmyfirst - Your LO is still so little. IMO all bets are off when it comes to sleep until after the 4 month regression at least, but it WILL get better for you and hopefully you'll never have to join this thread (I'm seriously hoping that this thread is redundant by then, in the nicest possible way )

 

[chrislo4]

I'm so pleased to have found this thread. My LO hasn't ever 'gone to bed' before 10.30pm. These days it's closer to mid night before she goes to sleep. She's alert most of the day but night time is when she's really bright. She has recently been sleeping from 11.30/12 til 5.30/6, waking for a feed then back to sleep for a few hours. We dont have set feed times as she feeds on demand from about 7pm. Any tips on getting her settled earlier? xx

 

[kosh]

Chocolala, Firefly, Lulu - I thoroughly sympathise. My patience becomes practically non-existent during the marathon bedtime routine and evening wakings. I feel terribly guilty about it as i'm sure LO picks up on it even though I really try not to let it show. It doesn't help that he will resolutely refuse to let OH settle him, so it usually comes down to me alone. TBH it's this as much as the sleep deprivation that has convinced me to try training...I'm not being the mother I want to be, within my head as much as anything.

don't say that

Kosh - He can usually be awake for around 2.5-3hrs in the morning before his first nap (usually 1.5-2hr nap), then 3-3.5hrs before his second (often 1-1.5hr nap), then usually around 4 hours before his bedtime, give or take half an hour. He sticks to this pretty well and as long as I time it correctly he'll go down for naps like an angel and wake happy. It's after bedtime that the craziness begins for some reason.

surprise surprise, mine is the same!
the only thing that gets me confused sometimes is that during the 3hr stretches he'll show signs of being tired at 1.5hr too. if he had an ok night I can entertain him a little bit and after 15 min his fine and will last till the 3hr mark, but when he (and I!) has a crappy night is sooo much difficult and I end up trying to get him to sleep at the 1.5hr mark which doesn't work as well.

Havingmyfirst - Your LO is still so little. IMO all bets are off when it comes to sleep until after the 4 month regression at least, but it WILL get better for you and hopefully you'll never have to join this thread (I'm seriously hoping that this thread is redundant by then, in the nicest possible way )

 

[kosh]

I'm so pleased to have found this thread. My LO hasn't ever 'gone to bed' before 10.30pm. These days it's closer to mid night before she goes to sleep. She's alert most of the day but night time is when she's really bright. She has recently been sleeping from 11.30/12 til 5.30/6, waking for a feed then back to sleep for a few hours. We dont have set feed times as she feeds on demand from about 7pm. Any tips on getting her settled earlier? xx

how old is your LO? 7 weeks? again she's waaaay to little to have a pattern yet. mine would stay awake till 10-11pm most nights and wouldn't 'go to bed' at the same time every night until pass 10 weeks I think, and he did this totally on his own. just give her time!!

 

[AngelUK]

chrislo4 I can understand how you'd think this late bedtime means not sleeping well but I would go down onto my knees in gratitude if my older twin Dom would do a stretch of 6 hours (and I suspect most ladies on here would feel the same). But you know, I think your LO is still very young and she hasn't really settled down to her proper sleeping patterns as yet so any tips would be a bit premature. But maybe some one else can give you a tip or two. Good luck

 

[flippityflop]

I'm so pleased to have found this thread. My LO hasn't ever 'gone to bed' before 10.30pm. These days it's closer to mid night before she goes to sleep. She's alert most of the day but night time is when she's really bright. She has recently been sleeping from 11.30/12 til 5.30/6, waking for a feed then back to sleep for a few hours. We dont have set feed times as she feeds on demand from about 7pm. Any tips on getting her settled earlier? xx

how old is your LO? 7 weeks? again she's waaaay to little to have a pattern yet. mine would stay awake till 10-11pm most nights and wouldn't 'go to bed' at the same time every night until pass 10 weeks I think, and he did this totally on his own. just give her time!!

Same here. I think at 7 weeks I wouldn't have even realised that there could be a pattern! Hang in there, I think our crappy sleepers are the exception rather than the rule. Chances are by 10/12 weeks she'll be a completely different baby anyway

 

[chrislo4]

Thank you for replying. Yes she is 7 weeks tomorrow. I personally like it that she's always alert. Probably sounds silly but when people say their baby settles at 7/8pm and they have time to themselves, i think Lucie should be doing the same or am i doing something wrong because she wont go down early. Of course I realise all babies are different. I should be grateful for more cuddle time! xx