Jon Venables - Identity Exposed - UPDATE PAGE 32 (In the papers again today)

[Dopeyjopey]

Of course that's my opinion and that's yours, doesn't mean we can't question each other

 

[LandN]

Of course that's my opinion and that's yours, doesn't mean we can't question each other

Maybe this thread should move to debates then

 

[Jem_x3]

Joke is all the people saying he should be hung, shot like an animal, tortured etc. wouldn't be the one to do it but would celebrate if someone else did it. That attitude is so wrong. Wouldn't want to go to jail yourselves but gladly pay for yet another murderer in prison. Great logic..

 

[moomin_troll]

i dont think this thread should be moved but maybe another thread started in debates about murderers being protected? as this seems to be the main issue we cant all agree on

 

[Natasha2605]

Joke is all the people saying he should be hung, shot like an animal, tortured etc. wouldn't be the one to do it but would celebrate if someone else did it. That attitude is so wrong. Wouldn't want to go to jail yourselves but gladly pay for yet another murderer in prison. Great logic..

You can't say that people's views are wrong just because you don't agree. That's the beauty of being individuals... we all believe different thing's but that doesn't mean my view is any less significant than yours.

Just chill. So not everyone agrees. Big deal. Doesn't change the world xx

 

[Jem_x3]

Didn't say the view was wrong I said the attitude is wrong

 

[LoraLoo]

I dont see why Jon Venables identity needs to be kept a secret, hes a man now not a child, fair enough if he didnt re-offend but he has, he downloaded sick images of poor innocent children who have been abused!! as if killing a innocent two year old wasnt bad enough! but then to be giving a chance in life to stay on the right track and hes taken advantage of this and has caused further insult to the family of that poor little boy!

Why is it ok to see murderers and pedofiles on the news like ian huntley, and many more but they wont show you Venables? hes a man and hes commited crime once again and this time he was at an adult age so this time i think it needs to be treat diffrently!

Robert Thomson has grown up and someone said he was married now? he oviously hasnt re-offended, and since he commited the crime as a child then i agree for his identity to be kept secret but hope police still keep an eye on him.

I think even bigger reason for Venables identity to be exsposed is to stop people thinking its innocent men! i dont agree with the pictures on this thread being exsposed as this might not even be Venables, it could possibly be him but then theres a chance that it could be some innocent man. I think they need to realease the true Venables so it can put an end to innocent men being accoused of being him, and for people who may think exsposing Venables identity will make people target innocent men who look like him i dont think this will be as bad as innocent men getting photos put up of them b.eing accoused of being him.

Only my opinion

This is exactly my view

 

[LoraLoo]

Didn't say the view was wrong I said the attitude is wrong

I personally dont believe in bringing back the death sentance, etc etc.....however, it'd be no skin off my nose if he was realeased and and got stoned to death Why would I care less? Why SHOULD I care less?

 

[Jem_x3]

Didn't say the view was wrong I said the attitude is wrong

I personally dont believe in bringing back the death sentance, etc etc.....however, it'd be no skin off my nose if he was realeased and and got stoned to death Why would I care less? Why SHOULD I care less?

I really wish that posts would be read more carefully. Fair enough if you've said if someone were to do it randomly one day, it wouldn't bother you but I was referring to the people calling for him to be brutually tortured an murdered. I was pointing out the people saying that would not go about it themselves as they would go to jail but would happily sit back and watch someone else do it and be happy about it? Wrong attitude imo.

 

[Natasha2605]

Didn't say the view was wrong I said the attitude is wrong

Yes but your views are shaped by experiences, attitudes and knowledge towards things and your post gave off an air of condeming other's views as logically, to you anyway, they are incorrect.

I'm not bickering over the corrolations of specific words, I'm sure we all have other things to do. This subject riles some people greatly and it's one where we all have to agree to disagree

 

[LoraLoo]

Didn't say the view was wrong I said the attitude is wrong

I personally dont believe in bringing back the death sentance, etc etc.....however, it'd be no skin off my nose if he was realeased and and got stoned to death Why would I care less? Why SHOULD I care less?

I really wish that posts would be read more carefully. Fair enough if you've said if someone were to do it randomly one day, it wouldn't bother you but I was referring to the people calling for him to be brutually tortured an murdered. I was pointing out the people saying that would not go about it themselves as they would go to jail but would happily sit back and watch someone else do it and be happy about it? Wrong attitude imo.

I've read every single post on this thread, thank you. I know you werent refering directly to me, I was just replying my thoughts. Its generally how a conversation works.

 

[Jem_x3]

Yes and as you can see when reading text things can be taken the wrong way. I respect everyone has an opinion and the right to express it but I do believe there is an attitude towards death that is wrong. It shocks me. Perhaps as the majority on this thread feel the same. Perhaps I'm the weird one lol but anywho I just don't agree people should be so blase about it. I do love a good debate.

 

[Jem_x3]

Also there's no need to get snooty. I didn't say you didn't read my post. I said I wish they were read with more care. To detail. There's no need for everyone to jump down my throat just because you don't like what I'm saying. Most of what I've said has been misinterpreted anyway, ugh.

 

[LoraLoo]

Yes and as you can see when reading text things can be taken the wrong way. I respect everyone has an opinion and the right to express it but I do believe there is an attitude towards death that is wrong. It shocks me. Perhaps as the majority on this thread feel the same. Perhaps I'm the weird one lol but anywho I just don't agree people should be so blase about it. I do love a good debate.

I dont agree with it either but can see why people feel like it. If it was our children, Im pretty sure 99% of us would feel the same way too. Its ok that you think it is wrong, but its also ok that they dont feel its wrong. Its such an emotive subject and as we are all Mums/Mums to be ourselves, we cant help how we would feel if we were in Jamies Mums position. People just feel very passionately, either way

 

[Jem_x3]

I agree if it were my child I would want to rip them apart with my bare hands, but I wouldn't. James' mum has held herself with such poise and dignity I completely commend her for it.

 

[LoraLoo]

I agree if it were my child I would want to rip them apart with my bare hands, but I wouldn't. James' mum has held herself with such poise and dignity I completely commend her for it.

I dont think anyone can say what they would or wouldnt do, unless they were in that position to be fair. I think i would, i think if they stood my childs killer in front of me, i would kill them with my bare hands.

 

[MamaBare]

I'm not sure it was preventable. There is no way of profiling who will commit a murder, what exactly could they have done to have prevented it??

Are you saying that the two boys were born evil? Because if they weren't, at some point in the chain the murder was preventable. They were children, not adults.

I think as a society we prefer to think that people can be born evil. That way "society" is not in any way responsible for the behaviour of people who commit horrendous crimes. We can put all the onus on the individual and wash our hands of it.

Environment does explain some of these horrible crimes. It does NOT excuse them. Not everybody who was abused as a child becomes an abuser. So where's the missing link? Why do some people break the cycle and others don't?

FWIW, I was only 12 when Jamie Bulger was murdered. It was just incredible to me that 10 year olds wouldn't know it was wrong.

 

[indy and lara]

The reality is that many people feel that the system is wrong. If this is you and you think that life sentences should mean life or that there should be some type of 3 strikes and you are out system (as seems to be what is being suggested in relation to reoffending) then go and campaign for it. Write to your MP/MSP, push for change to the justice system.

 

[louandivy]

Also there's no need to get snooty. I didn't say you didn't read my post. I said I wish they were read with more care. To detail. There's no need for everyone to jump down my throat just because you don't like what I'm saying. Most of what I've said has been misinterpreted anyway, ugh.

I agree with everything you have said! No one has the right to take away another person's life. I don't understand why you would punish murder WITH murder.

 

[Raggydoll]

Jon venables identity has been protected because he had been released, therefore a target for attack. It was not protected because he was a child when the crime was committed. Maxine Carr has the same protection for the same reason. I would imagine if a high profile murderer like Ian Huntley was ever released their identity would also be protected.