Jon Venables - Identity Exposed - UPDATE PAGE 32 (In the papers again today)

[EmziixBo0o]

sorry for so many replies, not sure how to put a few different quotes into one post

 

[indy and lara]

We never know if there is someone like Venables living next door to us. Many sex offenders/ paedophiles and the like are never caught and are living at large and anonymously in the UK. Of course he is not high on the desirable neighbour list but if the alternative was that he would be beaten to death in my street (and lets be honest, this is what we are talking about when we say that his identity would be out there) well yes, I would choose that.

I cannot accept that it is okay for mob rule/ vigilante justice. I don't believe that we can pick and choose when we follow the law and when we just turn a blind eye.

if it was your LO that he did this to, im sure ud want to kill him with ur bare hands, i think any mother would want to if such an ANIMAL tourchered their LO the way he did,

and i agree nobody can actually say what they would do until they was in that situation themselves

Not everyone in that situation would want to rip them limb from limb. For some people, lowering themselves to that animalistic level would not make them feel better. For me, blood on my hands would not make me feel better but overwhelmingly guilty for taking the life of another.

My problem with the 3 strikes system is that it works when there are 3 major crimes but falls down if the 3rd conviction is for something minor. However, I believe that some crimes should mean whole life sentences, not 12 years.

Well to be honest, i think anybody that looses a child to a murderer would want him to see how it feels, well at least try to make him feel some sort of pain.

The thing is that how you feel about vengeance before you lost your child would very much impact upon how you would react after the event. While that is how you feel not everyone does.

Many years ago I taught the cousin of a girl who had been murdered in a very notorious case. Her mum spoke to me about how she had so much fear for her own daughter but that she believed in prison as punishment.

 

[indy and lara]

sorry for so many replies, not sure how to put a few different quotes into one post

Me neither! Can never do it- end up quoting the wrong person!

 

[LoraLoo]

We never know if there is someone like Venables living next door to us. Many sex offenders/ paedophiles and the like are never caught and are living at large and anonymously in the UK. Of course he is not high on the desirable neighbour list but if the alternative was that he would be beaten to death in my street (and lets be honest, this is what we are talking about when we say that his identity would be out there) well yes, I would choose that.

I cannot accept that it is okay for mob rule/ vigilante justice. I don't believe that we can pick and choose when we follow the law and when we just turn a blind eye.

if it was your LO that he did this to, im sure ud want to kill him with ur bare hands, i think any mother would want to if such an ANIMAL tourchered their LO the way he did,

and i agree nobody can actually say what they would do until they was in that situation themselves

Not everyone in that situation would want to rip them limb from limb. For some people, lowering themselves to that animalistic level would not make them feel better. For me, blood on my hands would not make me feel better but overwhelmingly guilty for taking the life of another.

My problem with the 3 strikes system is that it works when there are 3 major crimes but falls down if the 3rd conviction is for something minor. However, I believe that some crimes should mean whole life sentences, not 12 years.

Well to be honest, i think anybody that looses a child to a murderer would want him to see how it feels, well at least try to make him feel some sort of pain.

The thing is that how you feel about vengeance before you lost your child would very much impact upon how you would react after the event. While that is how you feel not everyone does.

Many years ago I taught the cousin of a girl who had been murdered in a very notorious case. Her mum spoke to me about how she had so much fear for her own daughter but that she believed in prison as punishment.

I think prison should mean punishment, not days out and pocket money x

 

[indy and lara]

We never know if there is someone like Venables living next door to us. Many sex offenders/ paedophiles and the like are never caught and are living at large and anonymously in the UK. Of course he is not high on the desirable neighbour list but if the alternative was that he would be beaten to death in my street (and lets be honest, this is what we are talking about when we say that his identity would be out there) well yes, I would choose that.

I cannot accept that it is okay for mob rule/ vigilante justice. I don't believe that we can pick and choose when we follow the law and when we just turn a blind eye.

if it was your LO that he did this to, im sure ud want to kill him with ur bare hands, i think any mother would want to if such an ANIMAL tourchered their LO the way he did,

and i agree nobody can actually say what they would do until they was in that situation themselves

Not everyone in that situation would want to rip them limb from limb. For some people, lowering themselves to that animalistic level would not make them feel better. For me, blood on my hands would not make me feel better but overwhelmingly guilty for taking the life of another.

My problem with the 3 strikes system is that it works when there are 3 major crimes but falls down if the 3rd conviction is for something minor. However, I believe that some crimes should mean whole life sentences, not 12 years.

Well to be honest, i think anybody that looses a child to a murderer would want him to see how it feels, well at least try to make him feel some sort of pain.

The thing is that how you feel about vengeance before you lost your child would very much impact upon how you would react after the event. While that is how you feel not everyone does.

Many years ago I taught the cousin of a girl who had been murdered in a very notorious case. Her mum spoke to me about how she had so much fear for her own daughter but that she believed in prison as punishment.

I think prison should mean punishment, not days out and pocket money x

It does in this case. He will never be released.

I just hope that none of us are ever in that situation.

 

[Blah11]

to quote more than 1 person you just click the "+ button inbetween quote and thanks then put what you want

 

[Raggydoll]

Is Jon Venables being released again?

I thought because he comitted another crime under the life licence he'd be locked away for a long time.
I hope they don't make the same mistake again and release him.

BTW I bought up other cases about identity protection as an example of them not getting their identity changed because of them being children. I was still on subject.

 

[EmziixBo0o]

sorry for so many replies, not sure how to put a few different quotes into one post

Me neither! Can never do it- end up quoting the wrong person!

So complicated isnt it! x

 

[Sparky77]

This isn't Jon Venables. Sorry but neither picture is of him.

 

[Tasha]

How do you know that?

 

[moomin_troll]

thats a odd thing to claim u no.

 

[indy and lara]

thats a odd thing to claim u no.

In your only post on the forum......

 

[Avalanche]

This isn't Jon Venables. Sorry but neither picture is of him.

Oh quit trolling for controversial responses. This thread had dropped off the pages, so you clearly googled his name, found this post, registered and posted in the thread with something controversial. Bored much?

 

[moomin_troll]

thats a odd thing to claim u no.

In your only post on the forum......

im so tired i thought u were saying this was my first post hahahaha

 

[indy and lara]

thats a odd thing to claim u no.

In your only post on the forum......

im so tired i thought u were saying this was my first post hahahaha

I always look at post count these days before getting riled up!

 

[caggimedicine]

In the papers again today...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sary-toddlers-murder-drink-fuelled-party.html

 

[Baby France]

We never know if there is someone like Venables living next door to us. Many sex offenders/ paedophiles and the like are never caught and are living at large and anonymously in the UK. Of course he is not high on the desirable neighbour list but if the alternative was that he would be beaten to death in my street (and lets be honest, this is what we are talking about when we say that his identity would be out there) well yes, I would choose that.

I cannot accept that it is okay for mob rule/ vigilante justice. I don't believe that we can pick and choose when we follow the law and when we just turn a blind eye.

if it was your LO that he did this to, im sure ud want to kill him with ur bare hands, i think any mother would want to if such an ANIMAL tourchered their LO the way he did,

and i agree nobody can actually say what they would do until they was in that situation themselves

Not everyone in that situation would want to rip them limb from limb. For some people, lowering themselves to that animalistic level would not make them feel better. For me, blood on my hands would not make me feel better but overwhelmingly guilty for taking the life of another.My problem with the 3 strikes system is that it works when there are 3 major crimes but falls down if the 3rd conviction is for something minor. However, I believe that some crimes should mean whole life sentences, not 12 years.

You are a much better person than me.

People talk about human rights. What about the human rights of a young, loving two year old boy who got tortured. He kept following these 'friends' as he was lost to be repeatedly abused. I think about my little boy in that position, I actually feel sick thinking about it.

10 years old or not...they know right from wrong and yes they should be kept locked away in a cell, given only bread and water.

 

[indy and lara]

We never know if there is someone like Venables living next door to us. Many sex offenders/ paedophiles and the like are never caught and are living at large and anonymously in the UK. Of course he is not high on the desirable neighbour list but if the alternative was that he would be beaten to death in my street (and lets be honest, this is what we are talking about when we say that his identity would be out there) well yes, I would choose that.

I cannot accept that it is okay for mob rule/ vigilante justice. I don't believe that we can pick and choose when we follow the law and when we just turn a blind eye.

if it was your LO that he did this to, im sure ud want to kill him with ur bare hands, i think any mother would want to if such an ANIMAL tourchered their LO the way he did,

and i agree nobody can actually say what they would do until they was in that situation themselves

Not everyone in that situation would want to rip them limb from limb. For some people, lowering themselves to that animalistic level would not make them feel better. For me, blood on my hands would not make me feel better but overwhelmingly guilty for taking the life of another.My problem with the 3 strikes system is that it works when there are 3 major crimes but falls down if the 3rd conviction is for something minor. However, I believe that some crimes should mean whole life sentences, not 12 years.

You are a much better person than me.

People talk about human rights. What about the human rights of a young, loving two year old boy who got tortured. He kept following these 'friends' as he was lost to ble repeatedly abused. I think about my little boy in that position, I actually feel sick thinking about it.

10 years old or not...they know right from wrong and yes they should be kept locked away in a cell, given only bread and water.

It is not about human rights,it is the fact that I do not agree with mob rule.

 

[LoraLoo]

In the papers again today...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...sary-toddlers-murder-drink-fuelled-party.html

Wow, he only got two years or that Child Pornography offence? so for killing a child and child pornography a grand total of 10 years?
I think Jamies Mum is so dignified, but what she says it so true, he has had chance after chance but has literally got away with Murder. So unjust.

 

[Baby France]

Just so I'm clear on the 'mob' rule you mean as a mob and you're not meaning it as an abbrievation? blush

I agree with you on mob rule. I'm just looking at the anger I would feel if my child was treated like that.

I don't believe his identity should be released as lets be realistic, all its going to cause is more costs that WE will be footing to get his details changed.

But personally I don't think that they should ever have been released in the first place. I understand and appreciate completely about rehabilation and I have been proven wrong in the fact that Thompson has continued his life with no further criminal activity.

I work with people who have been rehabilated and can see that in certain cases it does work. However, there are times that I think the victims rights should far outweigh those of the 'rehabilated offender'.