June...here we come!!!

[JCM]

So I've started my clomid and I am hot! I can't seem to cool myself off. Is this a hot flash? Lol I've never had one. Geez! I turned on both fans in my room and just sat there naked.

YES that is a hot flash. What time did you take your pill? I always took mine at night...usually you could sleep through the hot flash.

Ahhhh I took it super early in the morning. Dammit! I can't stop sweating and it's so gross. Fingers crossed this is the only thing I experience. I have an ultra sound on Monday to check myself out and if it's all looking good, I'll have an inner lipid? Have you had to do that? Apparently it's an IV with a soy based protein that takes about 45 mins to do. Supposed to help with implantation. This is the first I've heard of it so I'm a little thrown off. Maybe I will take my pill before bed from now on! It's 115 today in sunny arizona. I want to go to costco and stand in the fruit and veggie area. Always cold in there!

For this cycle, just continue to take it around the same time. I think you are supposed to take it around the same time every day. But if you have to take it again next cycle, take it in the evening.

I have not heard of the lipid. Are you doing IUI or timed intercourse?

Iui after a trigger shot. I guess he will tell me when to do the shot but I'd like to BD beforehand too!

 

[beaglemom]

So I've started my clomid and I am hot! I can't seem to cool myself off. Is this a hot flash? Lol I've never had one. Geez! I turned on both fans in my room and just sat there naked.

YES that is a hot flash. What time did you take your pill? I always took mine at night...usually you could sleep through the hot flash.

Ahhhh I took it super early in the morning. Dammit! I can't stop sweating and it's so gross. Fingers crossed this is the only thing I experience. I have an ultra sound on Monday to check myself out and if it's all looking good, I'll have an inner lipid? Have you had to do that? Apparently it's an IV with a soy based protein that takes about 45 mins to do. Supposed to help with implantation. This is the first I've heard of it so I'm a little thrown off. Maybe I will take my pill before bed from now on! It's 115 today in sunny arizona. I want to go to costco and stand in the fruit and veggie area. Always cold in there!

For this cycle, just continue to take it around the same time. I think you are supposed to take it around the same time every day. But if you have to take it again next cycle, take it in the evening.

I have not heard of the lipid. Are you doing IUI or timed intercourse?

Iui after a trigger shot. I guess he will tell me when to do the shot but I'd like to BD beforehand too!

Definitely! My dr does my u/s on day 10 then I should trigger that night with IUI on cd 12. She also tells me to BD night of trigger. Last time I was unable to because of feeling so awful after trigger. So she said I should BD on CD 9 instead this time.

Sounds like we may be on the same IUI schedule. My u/s is Monday & hopefully IUI on Wednesday.

GOOD LUCK!!!

 

[floridasian]

Amy, you don't need to have an implantation dip for a BFP. Most charts don't. And it's only called an implantation dip if you end up being pregnant. Good luck!!

 

[JCM]

So I've started my clomid and I am hot! I can't seem to cool myself off. Is this a hot flash? Lol I've never had one. Geez! I turned on both fans in my room and just sat there naked.

YES that is a hot flash. What time did you take your pill? I always took mine at night...usually you could sleep through the hot flash.

Ahhhh I took it super early in the morning. Dammit! I can't stop sweating and it's so gross. Fingers crossed this is the only thing I experience. I have an ultra sound on Monday to check myself out and if it's all looking good, I'll have an inner lipid? Have you had to do that? Apparently it's an IV with a soy based protein that takes about 45 mins to do. Supposed to help with implantation. This is the first I've heard of it so I'm a little thrown off. Maybe I will take my pill before bed from now on! It's 115 today in sunny arizona. I want to go to costco and stand in the fruit and veggie area. Always cold in there!

For this cycle, just continue to take it around the same time. I think you are supposed to take it around the same time every day. But if you have to take it again next cycle, take it in the evening.

I have not heard of the lipid. Are you doing IUI or timed intercourse?

Iui after a trigger shot. I guess he will tell me when to do the shot but I'd like to BD beforehand too!

Definitely! My dr does my u/s on day 10 then I should trigger that night with IUI on cd 12. She also tells me to BD night of trigger. Last time I was unable to because of feeling so awful after trigger. So she said I should BD on CD 9 instead this time.

Sounds like we may be on the same IUI schedule. My u/s is Monday & hopefully IUI on Wednesday.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Yes we are on the exact same schedule! Yessssss! Ok, so I'm planning on lots of BD this weekend before my Monday morning u/s. Hopefully I'm ready to trigger because I'm too excited to wait any longer after that!

 

[beaglemom]

JCM - so excited about Monday & to have someone on the same schedule as me!

 

[floridasian]

Girls - I think I have figured out the root cause of my early ovulation, and it is PROGESTERONE SUPPOSITORIES!! Since the progesterone is extending my LP by two days I'm o'ing two days early.

After doing some googling I have concluded that while follicles might not start developing until after AF arrives some of the hormones might be brewing already at the end of the natural LP, even though it's extended by the progesterone supplement by a few days, causing the early ovulation.

Has anyone experienced the same thing while on progesterone suppositories? I have not brought up this theory to my RE yet so I can't be 100% sure but this is most likely the culprit.

Now I'm contemplating whether or not I should take progesterone this cycle. Just had it refilled two days ago and it was not cheap!

 

[beaglemom]

Girls - I think I have figured out the root cause of my early ovulation, and it is PROGESTERONE SUPPOSITORIES!! Since the progesterone is extending my LP by two days I'm o'ing two days early.

After doing some googling I have concluded that while follicles might not start developing until after AF arrives some of the hormones might be brewing already at the end of the natural LP, even though it's extended by the progesterone supplement by a few days, causing the early ovulation.

Has anyone experienced the same thing while on progesterone suppositories? I have not brought up this theory to my RE yet so I can't be 100% sure but this is most likely the culprit.

Now I'm contemplating whether or not I should take progesterone this cycle. Just had it refilled two days ago and it was not cheap!

Not sure if I had this or not. The cycle after taking progesterone I estimated my O to be about cd 15 or 16...I had an lp of about 15 days. It is possible the same thing happened to me. But with all the changes in the past few months, there is no way to know for sure. But before any fertility meds, I would O around CD 16 or 17...clomid put me closer to 18. It is a good theory, though. Maybe take them up until 10 dpo. Don't you have an RE appt soon? If so, I might be tempted to hold off on them all together. Your RE will most likely put you on a drug like clomid or femara which delays O a little anyways. And probably still want you on the P. I just ordered mine...16 for $32 I think...but I am on 50 mg & I think you are on 200 mg.

My meds should be here today. I am curious about the bill. Last time they called to confirm the total if it was over $100. This time they told me they were covered by my insurance, still took my CC #, but no call to confirm the total. I will be glad if all covered by insurance, but also a little pissed because I paid almost $500 last time in co-pays. All this insurance business is so screwy.

 

[sarahok]

Hi ladies. I haven't read the last couple of pages but I will catch up after I post this. I'm just too excited to tell you guys about my RE appointment. Not that anything special happened..but it's exciting all the same.

I REALLLY love my RE. I had read a few reviews that said that he was a bit cold, but I asked my OBGYN for THE BEST and she said he was a genius. I did not find him cold at all...very intellectual and "proper," so people who are intimidated by that may have been turned off. Anyway, he was very thorough in his explanation of our options and the chances they gave us for success. Also answered my questions and was very receptive to any questions I asked.

After looking at the full repertoire of tests I had done, he confirmed that everything seemed very normal and healthy! He had this formula that he entered our information into which he said was pretty reliably correct that said that if we continued trying naturally for another 12 months, we would have a 32% chance of achieving pregnancy. He said with that #, he usually recommended treatment.

So basically, he outlined the different options along with their costs and percentage for success. We decided on Clomid with IUI....monitored w/ trigger. Pretty much what I was expecting before going in. I think he said that had a 7-8% success rate per cycle. Which is not amazing, but way better than the 2-3% chance we have with no intervention.

I also asked him about Femara since I had talked to you guys so much about it. He said that it was a close 2nd to Clomid. He usually uses it when women have trouble tolerating the side effects of Clomid. He said that there was a study done recently which has not yet been published and Femara came in with a slightly smaller success rate (still good though) and the same chance of multiples as Clomid. So it's nice to know I have that options if the side effects are bad.

He said he would recommend doing at least 3-4 cycles of that, no more than 6, as 93% of success happens within the first 6 cycles. I am just so happy right now. I feel like I see light at the end of a dark tunnel I've been in for the last 19 months. It will happen one way or another!

I know you ladies who have been through rounds of clomid and other drugs unsuccessfully are probably rolling your eyes at me and my super optimism. I know it will probably not happen the first cycle, and maybe not on Clomid at all...but I have just felt so hopeless for so long it's really nice to feel like we're doing something and taking a step in the right direction.

 

[floridasian]

Yes I'm going back after this cycle. I'm going to call for an appointment next week even before AF arrives, whether or not I get pregnant so I can go in before CD3 if he wants to put me on Clomid or Femara. I'm seriously considering not taking the progesterone this cycle and just saving it for when I get my BFP. Mine are $1 a piece so $28 per cycle. They are not covered by insurance and only one pharmacy in town has them.

 

[SarahLou372]

Okay ladies Tuesday and Wednesday last week I had quite a bit of EWCM. And everyday after this I have had sensitive nipples and aches in my breats. I still have the highly sensitive nipples to touch sorry tmi

They look more red and perky, not site if they are bigger or not though and look shiny sorry tmi again. I'm just worried as the sensitivity as not sub sided it's still there. And I kept getting de aches/cramps today

 

[MissStacy]

I know you ladies who have been through rounds of clomid and other drugs unsuccessfully are probably rolling your eyes at me and my super optimism. I know it will probably not happen the first cycle, and maybe not on Clomid at all...but I have just felt so hopeless for so long it's really nice to feel like we're doing something and taking a step in the right direction.

It is hard to be optimistic at times but that's why we are all here together. Your optimism definitely cheers me up and reminds me that we are going to get those BFPs no matter how many stumbles and tears along the way.

 

[MissStacy]

Hi Ladies,

I have been keeping up on posts but not much to report. We are currently in the BD phase of things, waiting to confirm O. I'm on 7.5 of Femara this month and while I want to do everything right and have better odds I decided this month no OPK and only temping to confirm O. After I know I O'd I'm going to stop temping. I just want to enjoy things, enjoy the summer, and the events we have going on. I know it's going to happen eventually so not going to stress over it.

 

[floridasian]

sarah, I love your optimism! You and beaglemom are my two sources of inspiration for staying positive! It's so easy to try to cry and whine and feel sorry for myself but that's not going to get me pregnant. I'm excited about your Clomid+IUI combo! Hopefully this will do it for you!

 

[ERosePW]

sarah, I'm not rolling my eyes at all!! I'm super excited for you, and I feel very optimistic that it may be all you need! I got pregnant on a low dose of Clomid without even doing IUI, so I have a lot of faith in that medication, and I think you have a GREAT chance with this!

floridasian, i only took P one cycle, although my OB didnt think I needed it (and as I confirmed later, he was right). I just looked at my charts, and in the cycle following the cycle when I took P, I did O on cd10, even though I was even taking Clomid! I remember thinking that was SUPER weird at the time, since clomid typically pushed my O out to cd13-14. No idea if they are linked though. I stopped taking the P after that cycle, and my RE started testing my P with my IUIs, so I never took it again. I was happy not to, because I didnt want my cycles longer. Unfortunately with IVF, I have no choice but to start on P right after egg retrieval, but I'm okay with that, since its necessary with IVF, and plus I'm pretty sure I'll be prego, so I'm more than happy to then.

 

[sarahok]

You guys are so sweet, Floridasian and Miss Stacy...I'm glad I my cheery disposition is rubbing off on you today. Lord knows I don't always have it, but I'm so blessed to have ALL you ladies to cry AND smile with!!

Just finished reading through the last few pages...

Suzy...so good to see you, girl! I know how it is...when I was without my laptop I didn't post much because I hate picking at my iPad I need a full keyboard! So this is going to be your first month of Clomid too? We'll be in it together!! Are you doing monitored, trigger, IUI and all that jazz?

BeagleSarah-- So excited for the possibilities ahead of your family with your husband's work opportunities opening up. That is so great. It must give you such a sense of everything falling into place. Although everything sounds very positive, I would thing that even if he doesn't end up landing this particular job, his company has taken not of his great work ethic and will give him a chance to move up sooner rather than later!

JCM...your hot flash story had me in stitches. Sorry I know it wasn't funny but it was a funny mental image...you laying there naked with all the fans on. I really should consider karma as I laugh about this as I will be starting Clomid myself soon. Is this your first day to be taking it? I'll be a couple weeks behind you but we can be buddies all the same!

Erin, you posted while I was writing so editing this to include you. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm hoping it's just the boost we need. When you say low dose...wasn't it less than normal? I thought I was remembering someone on 25...was that you? I asked the nurse what the dosage would be, and she said 50 was the lowest and usually what people were started on. So not sure if I'm making things up in my head.

Sending hugs out to everyone else I didn't have something particularly to respond to!

 

[beaglemom]

SarahLou, you may have some good signs going on...good luck!

SarahOK - very excited for you...no reason to compare you new path with our failures. Each fail brings us close to a success & you are starting the road to success! I hope the IUI clomid works for you...one suggestion, take your clomid before bed. Sometimes it helps you sleep through your symptoms. Also, if you have a melt down day, blame it on the clomid. It happened to me & Erin. I only wish success to everyone on here...each of us will have our moment.

BTW, SarahOK, what are your issues? Just the amount of time you have been trying with no success? Just wondering why your odds are so low with good test results.

Floridasian - thank you for saying I keep the good energy going. Sometimes I do not feel so optimistic & I fake it...I have found that faking a good mood can actually put you in a good mood. I am glad I have this effect on the people of this thread.

Stacy - have a relaxing time this cycle with low stress. But remember to try to keep an eye out for O signs. Temping will only confirm O...not warn you when it is sneaking up. Or at least try to keep an every other day or 2 BD schedule...& have fun

 

[ERosePW]

Erin, you posted while I was writing so editing this to include you. Thanks for the encouragement. I'm hoping it's just the boost we need. When you say low dose...wasn't it less than normal? I thought I was remembering someone on 25...was that you? I asked the nurse what the dosage would be, and she said 50 was the lowest and usually what people were started on. So not sure if I'm making things up in my head.

You are correct that I was on 25mg to start, Good memory. But it was when he bumped me up to 50 that I got PG. Very first month on that dose. Since I'd only been trying for 9 months when I first went to him, he started me out low on the 25. They don't even make that dose, so I had to break them in half! In my 3rd month on the med, he bumped me up to 50mg, and I got my BFP. Honestly, I think I would've gotten PG again on it too. I've had a few strokes of bad luck since that time... I had a cycle that I was recovering from the m/c, I had the cycle that I got that giant cyst, and then I had the following cycle where I O'd five days after having the cyst removed, so we weren't even BDing! I have a feeling (and so does my RE), that if I were to give it another few months, I'd get PG again. I'm only moving forward with IVF because I'm not willing to take that chance anymore since I'm turning 38 in July. I really do think you've got a great chance on the Clomid! Sometimes thats the only bump a girl needs. You'll read LOTS of success stories.

 

[floridasian]

Honestly though - knowing that the progesterone suppositories might be to blame is a huge relief! I was getting so worried that I might be going into menopause or peri-menopause already with the early O. I'm just soooo relived now that I know it's probably just from too much progesterone for too long period of time since it's easily remedied - just don't take it!

Seriously, my RE NEVER tested my progesterone level! I have a 13-day LP, my post-o temps are nice and high without the progesterone supplements, and I never spot in the LP so I highly doubt that I'm low in progesterone.

BTW - I turn 36 tomorrow!

 

[ERosePW]

Honestly though - knowing that the progesterone suppositories might be to blame is a huge relief! I was getting so worried that I might be going into menopause or peri-menopause already with the early O. I'm just soooo relived now that I know it's probably just from too much progesterone for too long period of time since it's easily remedied - just don't take it!

Seriously, my RE NEVER tested my progesterone level! I have a 13-day LP, my post-o temps are nice and high without the progesterone supplements, and I never spot in the LP so I highly doubt that I'm low in progesterone.

You poor thing, I didnt realize you were worried about menopause! No, I wouldn't blame the early O on that. Before my meds, I was O'ing early, around cd 9-10. My AMH and antral follie count indicated that I won't be going into menopause any time in the near future at all. So who knows what was causing my early O except that I did more often have shorter cycles back then too, so that could've been it. But if you never had that happen before, then it could very well have been from the P! Because i know it was VERY bizarre for me to have O'd on cd10 that one cycle on Clomid after taking P the cycle before! Very, very odd!

There seem to be a lot of REs not testing P in their patients and just giving them the P supps regardless. My RE just doesn't work that way. There's supposedly no harm in it, but she feels she can't guage what is or isn't causing something to happen if she has me on supps that I don't need. So she tests it seven days after IUI. If I had been low, she would've prescribed them at that time.

 

[MissStacy]

Stacy - have a relaxing time this cycle with low stress. But remember to try to keep an eye out for O signs. Temping will only confirm O...not warn you when it is sneaking up. Or at least try to keep an every other day or 2 BD schedule...& have fun

We have been doing every other day and usually when I'm about to O i do get bad cramps and a migraine. I had a migraine yesterday so O may have been then but like you said it is really hard to tell without testing. I know it's not ideal but I just needed a month were I wasn't constantly peeing in a cup. We are going to BD again tonight and tomorrow to make sure.