Kate McCann releasing a book...

And you know what I will NEVER be able to understand, is how when they KNEW Madeleine & Sean had woke the previous night, how they thought it was ok to leave them in an UNLOCKED ROOM the next? Would you not sit having your meal feeling worried incase your baby had woken & they were scared? Suppose that's real parenting!

They were meant to be Drs for gods sake, I'd expect them to think of worst case scenarios more than most!
 
Yes, they were questioned about what happened that night. Out of all 48 questions, Kate refused to answer any until asked "do you know that you're hindering the investigation by remaining silent?" to which she replied "yes, if that's what the investigation thinks" If my child had been snatched I would be willing to answer anything that I thought might help
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.
 
They left their children knowing the night before, they had woken up crying for their daddy and asked the next day why they didn't come. That would make me feel
guilty enough not to do it again. As for the bar being "like being in your back garden" that must be one hell of a garden. I've seen all the official photos and from where they were sitting, all you could see of the McCann's apartment was the top left hand corner of the sliding doors. I can generally see my entire house when I'm in my garden :shrug:
 
I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

Madeline asked them why they didn't come when her and Sean had cried forbover an hour the night before. Any good parent would feel horribly guilty about that let alone going ad far as thinking they had behaved reasonably and gotten past any guilt they did have when they left he again and she was 'stolen' x
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

well no they are not being punished enough as i believe you are putting your child in danger no matter what when you choose to leave them alone, especially at such a young age. how can anyone condone this???

ermmm and i disagree no mother/father in their right mind would leave their child on their own in a FOREIGN country where they are bearly in sight...would you?

its common sense that you are putting your child at risk if your going to leave them alone DUH!!!!

so in that case its ok for me to pop to my neighbours for few hours and leave my kids in bed? but its ok because i can just see their window from where im sitting???????? ermmmm no this would be neglectful wouldnt it?
 
Before this thread was started I said they werent guilty, since reading all the other bits I didnt know I keep swaying from one to another lol..

Even my first few posts were that they werent guilty, now I dunno.. I think they arent and then something comes along that suggests they might have done something.. Who knows
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

If any of that is actually true (I'd like to add that it's NOT TRUE!) I would like to point out that any decent parent would lock their front door to prevent the children wondering off or an intruder entering the house! :coffee:
 
have they closed the case?

I think it was closed on "lack of evidence" for either explaination. Basically saying that they don't necessarily believe the McCann's were involved but also not saying that they believe an abduction ever took place. I think there is a campaign to re-open the case. It needs Kate and Gerry's co-operation though which so far, they have refused to give
 
My opinion seems to go against the grain of this thread, but I don't think the Mcanns were involved in their daughters disappearance in any way. I don't know what happened to Madeline, but I do have huge compassion for Kate and Gerry.

I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

I feel so sorry for them, their lives must be a living nightmare.

They don't deserve people accusing them, and being nasty about them on top of everything else they have been through IMO.

I can't believe that the police stopped looking for that little girl years ago. How would that make you feel as a parent -it's disgusting.

To all those mummies who have said such awful things about these poor people - have a heart, please,

I have a heart thank you, and in my heart there's a big place for little Madeleine McCann. There is NO part however for her so-called 'parents' who, despite the fact their daughter was apparantely kidnapped and could potentially be in the clutches of a paedophile ring, see fit to CONTINUE to almost justify what they did & try to make out it was a normal thing to do! They talk of the guilt they felt, not the guilt they feel. They called it 'what any reasonable parent would do'. If they are wracked with guilt and their lives are a living nightmare, they do as good a job as hiding that as they do about lying about what really happened. I would be wracked with the most god awful guilt and constantly be saying I had made the biggest mistake ever. They refuse to do this. You haven't got your child & you still can't hold your hands up & admit liability? They are, at the least, deluded.

I'm sorry but if people are 'nasty' about them, they only have themselves to blame!

People don't like them because their stories CONSTANTLY change. One minute Kate is on tape saying she never searched for Madeleine's body. The next, her published book says she did. Well did she, or didn't she? Why is her story changing - that is NOT something you forget. The stories of their friends are riddled with inconsistancies.

People don't like them because they are sneaky. They refused to hand over their credit card records. They refused to have their twins tested for drugs, despite Kate suggesting HERSELF that she felt the twins had been drugged by an abductor hense their sleepyness. Kate says she'd do anything, but she refused to answer the police's questions. They ignored advice from the police at the earliest stage not to release details of Madeleine's disntinctive eye because it would be like signing her death warrant. I'm sorry, but you can't go against firm advice with your daughters wellbeing in mind & then complain in the next breath that the police didn't do what you wanted them to do!

Can you HONESTLY tell me you don't find it strange that on finding her daughter missing, despite Kate saying Madeleine DOES get out of bed & infact had a reward chart in which 'not getting out of bed' was rewarded, your first insticnt would be that your child had been taken? Not that they had wondered out, scared, looking for you? She shouted, 'they've taken her'. She then left, in a room where her baby girl had been snatched from, her two twins. These are reasons why people are so suspicious...and there's hundreds more if you read this thread.

The view of the British media is that a poor little british girl was snatched whilst her 'poor suffering' parents dined a few yards away, 'in view'. What rubbish. The media and the McCanns try to tell us what to FEEL about this story, and don't want us to think about it too much. Anyone who does, just doesn't have a heart because how could we say anything nasty about these poor people? Nevermind the fact there is more evidence of foul play and coverups than an abduction!

People do not like it but THEY NEGLECTED THEIR CHILDREN. Madeleine has payed the ultimate price for that - SHE deserves our sympathy.

and yet - in one of their latest TV interviews, she mentions that Maddie very rarely woke in the night and got out of bed.

That woman is full of shit!
 
trouble now I guess is *IF* the case was too ever go too court now it could never be classed as a fair trial because all this information has been made public

my head is battered with it all, I don't believe they had anything too do with it but other stuff about it bugs me .... mainly the police investigation at the start

:(
 
Gerry also claimed the Madeleine was a light sleeper and always had been (hence the chart) but in another interview he said that it was possible an abductor could have taken her without her raising any kind of alarm as she would most likely have been in a deep sleep. So which is it Gerry? Was she a light sleeper or not?
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

well no they are not being punished enough as i believe you are putting your child in danger no matter what when you choose to leave them alone, especially at such a young age. how can anyone condone this???

ermmm and i disagree no mother/father in their right mind would leave their child on their own in a FOREIGN country where they are bearly in sight...would you?

its common sense that you are putting your child at risk if your going to leave them alone DUH!!!!

so in that case its ok for me to pop to my neighbours for few hours and leave my kids in bed? but its ok because i can just see their window from where im sitting???????? ermmmm no this would be neglectful wouldnt it?

I'm not 'condoning' what they did, they obviously made a bad choice that they are paying for now.

No, it wouldn't be alright to leave your children at home while you went to a neighbours house, that would be a bad choice, but if you did that, and something happened to the child, I would still have sympathy for you as a Mum who had lost a child.
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

You actually saw Richard & Judy say those exact words? Why, as a country, are we defending parents who, at the LEAST, are guilty of serious neglect? Jesus.

I think people in their desire to give sympathy to parents whose child has been supposidley 'snatched' feel they have to give a bit of support & in turn there is this misguided suggestion that they have to somehow defend them..... it's 'just like sitting in your garden' - course it is. :dohh: Rubbish.

Like others have said, this didn't happen one night as an 'off chance', this was a planned & repeated action by 'parents' who even chose to ignore their daughter asking them why they didn't come why she woke. The thought of my child saying that & then STILL repeating that action makes me sick. To then choose to TELL people this happened too - I just don't understand. :nope:

You know what my issue is - it's not a question of whether it's a safe AREA, it's an issue of if those children woke they had been ABANDONED in a foreign hotel room for gods sake. Madeleine could have got out of bed, got anything from that room, swallowd it, electrocuted herself, cut herself, banged her head - do I need to go on?

As for what you said about them not being neglectful.....have you learnt nothing from the outcome of this 'case'?! I'm sorry - if in light of what happened you STILL don't think they were being neglectful......:nope: What more would they need to do? (or not do?)

BRB, just need to nip to the supermarket for 15 minutes, just gonna leave my two children here cos, well, I live in a safe area so it's ok.....:wacko:
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

well no they are not being punished enough as i believe you are putting your child in danger no matter what when you choose to leave them alone, especially at such a young age. how can anyone condone this???

ermmm and i disagree no mother/father in their right mind would leave their child on their own in a FOREIGN country where they are bearly in sight...would you?

its common sense that you are putting your child at risk if your going to leave them alone DUH!!!!

so in that case its ok for me to pop to my neighbours for few hours and leave my kids in bed? but its ok because i can just see their window from where im sitting???????? ermmmm no this would be neglectful wouldnt it?

I'm not 'condoning' what they did, they obviously made a bad choice that they are paying for now.

No, it wouldn't be alright to leave your children at home while you went to a neighbours house, that would be a bad choice, but if you did that, and something happened to the child, I would still have sympathy for you as a Mum who had lost a child.

Madeleine is paying for it.

So, let me get this right.

You DON'T think the McCanns were being neglectful by leaving three children under three in a forgein hotel room completely unnattended & unlocked whilst they had tea, but you think it would be a bad choice to go to a neighbours house & leave your children? So I'm guessing what the McCanns did would just be a 'bad choice' too?

A bad choice is putting a jumper on your child when it's a hot day. A bad choice isn't abandoning them & as a result, allowing something to happen in your absense. There was no 'choice' in it at all - that's the issue. Despite their child waking.....they weren't gonna change their plans.
 
https://truthformadeleine.com/2008/12/more-on-the-deleted-call-records-where-was-kate-mccann/
Interesting link, read comment 103 swell, close to th beginning of the comments.
Yet another of gerrys lovely choice of words. Xxx
 
see that kinda contradicts things for me further ..... if she fell too her death and it was an accident .... where does the 2nd home come into it and why try hide her body .... it was an accident ...... a 2nd holiday home would imply they calculated the whole thing ..... but then that doesn't make sense either

accident + 2nd holiday home .... they just don't add up, it's one of the other surely?

I still can't believe they were involved, the british justice system states 'innocent until proven guilty' and there isn't enough 'proof' they they are guilty for me :(


No Hon ... you're getting confused (easily done with this case unfortunately!) ... on the night Madeleine disappeared the McCanns and the twins were moved into another Mark Warner apartment and they stayed there for a while (I really can't remember how long for now but I think a couple of weeks or a month - something like that).

Then they had to move out because this other apartment had already been let to other tourists ... so they were lent/they rented (not sure which) a villa - which is where they were living when the dogs went over in the July.

So there was only another holiday apartment/villa after Madeleine had disappeared :flower:

As far as the British Justice system goes ... well yes, they are 'innocent until proven guilty' - in that the case has never been taken to court and they are still walking around as free as birds. That doesn't mean that I, or others, have to believe in their abduction fairytale though :shrug: ... because that certainly hasn't been proven either :wacko:
 
I know that people say 'they shouldn't have left their kids on their own that night', but they have paid a huge price for that action. At the end of the day, nobody is perfect, and they will regret that for the rest of their lives.

how on earth you can say that is beyond me!!!

this isnt an everyday mistake that you just leave your children!!!!

it is a PLANNED situation that as a parent you know can lead into something bad.

It is down right neglectful and they deserve to be punished and regret it everyday...the thing is they see no wrong in leaving their children??? hmmmm

I think they are being punished in the most horrific way possible - they lost their little girl. I doubt there is a minute goes by when they don't regret what they did.

Richard and Judy were on tv earlier, and they said they went to the place where Madeline went missing. They said they could understand how the Mcanns got the feeling that it would be safe to leave their kids in bed, as it felt like it was the same as sitting in the garden nearby. I don't think they were being neglectful, as I'm sure they would not have left them if they had thought they were putting their children in danger.

You actually saw Richard & Judy say those exact words? Why, as a country, are we defending parents who, at the LEAST, are guilty of serious neglect? Jesus.

I think people in their desire to give sympathy to parents whose child has been supposidley 'snatched' feel they have to give a bit of support & in turn there is this misguided suggestion that they have to somehow defend them..... it's 'just like sitting in your garden' - course it is. :dohh: Rubbish.

Like others have said, this didn't happen one night as an 'off chance', this was a planned & repeated action by 'parents' who even chose to ignore their daughter asking them why they didn't come why she woke. The thought of my child saying that & then STILL repeating that action makes me sick. To then choose to TELL people this happened too - I just don't understand. :nope:

You know what my issue is - it's not a question of whether it's a safe AREA, it's an issue of if those children woke they had been ABANDONED in a foreign hotel room for gods sake. Madeleine could have got out of bed, got anything from that room, swallowd it, electrocuted herself, cut herself, banged her head - do I need to go on?

As for what you said about them not being neglectful.....have you learnt nothing from the outcome of this 'case'?! I'm sorry - if in light of what happened you STILL don't think they were being neglectful......:nope: What more would they need to do? (or not do?)

BRB, just need to nip to the supermarket for 15 minutes, just gonna leave my two children here cos, well, I live in a safe area so it's ok.....:wacko:

I did not, at any point say it is ok you leave your children alone.

I do think, however, and the Mcanns made a bad choice.

I see it as pointless now to argue over the rights and wrongs of leaving children alone - you shouldn't do it - end of. I think is more helpful now to support Kate and Gerry in finding out what happened to their Daughter.
 

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